Carrier Union Boss: Trump is Lying His A** Off

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: MediaCensor
a reply to: reldra

Do you have another source? CNN is fake news.

It is a taped interview with the Union head. You go find your own source.

that says it all. ever deal with a union? they are like the mafia. this guys probly trying to hold onto whatever power he can. going by all the union people ive dealt with it wouldnt surprise me in the least if he is lying straight through his teeth.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Guess you don't know what kind of man Trump is and that he's lied way more than he's ever told the truth. He lies to his followers and they accept it as fact. Sad!

Guess you don't know what kind of woman Clinton is and that she's lied way more than she's ever told the truth. She lies to her followers and they accept it as fact. Sad!

originally posted by: RickinVa

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Guess you don't know what kind of man Trump is and that he's lied way more than he's ever told the truth. He lies to his followers and they accept it as fact. Sad!

Guess you don't know what kind of woman Clinton is and that she's lied way more than she's ever told the truth. She lies to her followers and they accept it as fact. Sad!

How purile. Believe it or not, a person can find Clinton distasteful whilst finding Trump even more distasteful. Further, "she's lied way more than she's ever told the truth" is prima facie ridiculous. Let me throw your algorithm into a fit: if Clinton says she likes pizza, is she lying?

a reply to: reldra

Thanks for the OP. We have to be vigilant to expose the liar Trump at every opportunity.

It's a shame because if Trump actually does some good I will be glad to praise him if he really does help the lower middle class to a better deal.

But here, like so many times, are distortions and outright lies he utters to get a quick news fix and moves on and we are supposed to always believe his distorted hype.

Investigate and report accurate facts at all times dealing with Trump

a reply to: reldra

To the OP, I have been reading through your thread and found that you as the poster of this have been asked several times to provide another source, instead of just one from CNN which IMHO most people on here will take with a grain of salt, most people will tend to believe something more if there is more then one piece of evidence for it. Personally after watching this past election I don't know how anyone can take anything that comes from CNN as a non biased news story, all they did the entire election was bash and slander people and that is all they continue to do.

Now I have worked a union job for the past several years and I have found out over time that a Union especially the people who are in charge of said union will say one thing and keep other things completely a secret. They will tell the dues paying members what they want to hear especially when it is talking about the loss of jobs, I fully believe this Union head is just now trying to save face in front of not only the nation but the people who pay his own salary. The union wasn't able to save the jobs so "someone" else stepped in and saved them. They have their own vested interests in speaking out against the president-elect.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: reldra

Thanks for the OP. We have to be vigilant to expose the liar Trump at every opportunity.

It's a shame because if Trump actually does some good I will be glad to praise him if he really does help the lower middle class to a better deal.

But here, like so many times, are distortions and outright lies he utters to get a quick news fix and moves on and we are supposed to always believe his distorted hype.

Investigate and report accurate facts at all times dealing with Trump

Precisely. Scrutiny, diligence, and intellectual honesty. When Trump does a good thing, give him his due. When he does an evil thing, give him his criticism. I was pleasantly surprised the stock markets didn't tank.

a reply to: reldra

Wow that's so funny. It reported it literally the same day in BBC the revised number--so no, he's not lying you just don't have accurate and up-to-date news. He did save jobs. That's pretty good, considering he isn't even sworn in yet. At least he isn't preparing for a Beyonce party while our men die in Benghazi.


Oh no, so it wasn't exact. Who cares?
He did save jobs. That's pretty cool. The people whose jobs he saved are super happy, by the way. You don't talk about that at all.

Way to be biased and one-sided. It's okay to say, wait he didn't save 1100 jobs--but he isn't a fraud. He did save jobs and you just didn't look into enough news sources. Sounds like a personal problem to me. Sorry, you jumped to conclusions and that's never a good thing. How about you stop riding the guys nuts so much?? This isn't a conspiracy and this isn't even news. This isn't even a problem and the reason why they got fired is because of their union. You tell one side of the story. If you want me to agree with you, then tell both sides and then your opinion. Be fair or why do you even bother? It's just ignorant.

What? You want to fight? That's the only reason people act one-sided, most of the time. Stop taking out your aggression on the internet and settle those jimmies of yours down. Your arbitrary judgement of the situation is just...not even well-thought out. It has been debunked countless times already. There were reasons why those people got let go. They didn't just get fired because--he tried to save their jobs. You don't even know the whole story and it's kinda sad that you have a problem with what isn't even a problem. And it's even more sad that people believe you.

Spreading ignorance is like...the opposite of what we are supposed to do here, but you don't even seem to care and that's unfortunate

You and the other people who think that what you said is true are probably going to attack me now. And then cry if Trump is mean. It's so hypocritical and it makes me ill. Just selfish--as IF you care about others. The fact that you're getting fired up about this is SELFISH because it doesn't even involve you. You aren't caring about others--you just care about YOURSELF. WAKEY WAKEY OVEN BAKEY. *flips table*

You're not doing anyone a service--except yourself and those who agree with you. A circle jerk is what you made out of this situation, so don't even bother trying to argue that you really do care because I saw what you wrote and I don't believe you. Boohoo the jobs, my grass.

You just want to be right.

Too bad.

a reply to: JohnnyElohim

lol look at you on that high horse how droll

You don't belong up there, that's totally evil of you to say. How dare you. He didn't do anything wrong here, you people just believe one news source and don't do research. That's just sad. Yeah, attack the poor man who is already showing that he CARES a lot about the job. A lot more than petty, lame, ineffective, lazy Obama. So you know what? You know why the stocks went up? HA! They told us that on the day OF when they went down temporarily before shooting up. You don't look at legitimate sources OBVIOUSLY. So how dare you attack Trump when you're the epitome of ignorant?

Go look it up. I'm not google. I already did my work. Now it's your turn. Sheesh.

I have no need of proving what is already proven fact to you. You need to hie thee hence to google.



Just like the OP, you're just selfish and think that gives you the right to do whatever you want. But guess what? That doesn't make you right--in fact, your words prove that you're wrong because you lack morality and sense. You're nobody. What gives you the right to criticize someone who has done more than you ever could? He is much smarter than you. You hate him because you're jealous.

I don't care if he's the president or your neighbor or your boss--show some respect and have some class or you would be better off not speaking at all. I will always defend someone if people are giving false testimony against them that I know to be false. I don't know how to shut my mouth on these happy occasions, so i hope that my honesty might help you cut it out. If you really think that Trump is wrong, that's fine. Be a bigger person then, don't degrade yourself to attacking our next President. Have some pride in your country. If you don't then why are you even here? Get out. Go be happy, then. Nobody is making you stay here.

I don't like Obama--I have stated so, but I have never made it a point to herald my opinion out into the masses. That would just be STUPID. I largely kept my peace for eight years. I was unhappy at the direction our country was moving in, but I didn't make it my Raison D'être to call Obama out. That would be a. a waste of mine and everyone's time b. mean, and classless.

So, you're against evil when it's other people but not when it's you doing it? How evil. That's scary. I hope you stop that.

a reply to: reldra

Carrier's official announcement said it "close to 1,000 jobs". Do your homework.

Between that, the 10,000 US Steel jobs and the 50,000 SoftBank jobs, he's doing a hell of a lot more in 4 weeks than our current Prezzy in 8 years.

That Union spox is a tool.

a reply to: Beethovens10th

btw was mostly a lurker but needed to sign up to counter this drivel.

and here:

In the end, UTC agreed to retain approximately 800 manufacturing jobs at the Indiana plant that had been slated to move to Mexico, as well as another 300 engineering and headquarters jobs. In return, the company will get roughly $700,000 a year for a period of years in state tax incentives.

Some 1,300 jobs will still go to Mexico, which includes 600 Carrier employees, plus 700 workers from UTEC Controls in Huntington, Ind. The company has plans in place to offer displaced workers employment and relocation in UTC’s aerospace business, or to provide funding for reeducation.

originally posted by: Beethovens10th
a reply to: reldra

Carrier's official announcement said it "close to 1,000 jobs". Do your homework.

Between that, the 10,000 US Steel jobs and the 50,000 SoftBank jobs, he's doing a hell of a lot more in 4 weeks than our current Prezzy in 8 years.

That Union spox is a tool.

I must say, you do a great job of counting your chickens before they hatch. So far President Elect Trump has taken credit for 60,000 jobs that don't exist yet. You might want to wait another four years before crunching your numbers.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Beethovens10th
a reply to: reldra

Carrier's official announcement said it "close to 1,000 jobs". Do your homework.

Between that, the 10,000 US Steel jobs and the 50,000 SoftBank jobs, he's doing a hell of a lot more in 4 weeks than our current Prezzy in 8 years.

That Union spox is a tool.

I must say, you do a great job of counting your chickens before they hatch. So far President Elect Trump has taken credit for 60,000 jobs that don't exist yet. You might want to wait another four years before crunching your numbers.

There are quite a few on the left trying to kill the chickens before they hatch, so counting them now seems like a sensible move.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Beethovens10th
a reply to: reldra

Carrier's official announcement said it "close to 1,000 jobs". Do your homework.

Between that, the 10,000 US Steel jobs and the 50,000 SoftBank jobs, he's doing a hell of a lot more in 4 weeks than our current Prezzy in 8 years.

That Union spox is a tool.

I must say, you do a great job of counting your chickens before they hatch. So far President Elect Trump has taken credit for 60,000 jobs that don't exist yet. You might want to wait another four years before crunching your numbers.

There are quite a few on the left trying to kill the chickens before they hatch, so counting them now seems like a sensible move.

You have to break a few eggs if you want to make an omelette.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Beethovens10th
a reply to: reldra

Carrier's official announcement said it "close to 1,000 jobs". Do your homework.

Between that, the 10,000 US Steel jobs and the 50,000 SoftBank jobs, he's doing a hell of a lot more in 4 weeks than our current Prezzy in 8 years.

That Union spox is a tool.

I must say, you do a great job of counting your chickens before they hatch. So far President Elect Trump has taken credit for 60,000 jobs that don't exist yet. You might want to wait another four years before crunching your numbers.

There are quite a few on the left trying to kill the chickens before they hatch, so counting them now seems like a sensible move.

You have to break a few eggs if you want to make an omelette.

At least wait for the eggs before you break them - leave the chickens alone and let them lay. You might even be surprised when they start laying golden eggs.

He can't even get what the company makes right he spouted on about air conditioners but they make furnaces......

originally posted by: testingtesting
He can't even get what the company makes right he spouted on about air conditioners but they make furnaces......

Furnaces without Cooling? I suspect you are incorrect. Furnaces using gas or electric can still be also the compressor housing.

ETA
Most people where I live have Carriers because they have a solid track record with the heat pump/furnace model which handles heating and cooling needs.

a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

You seriously cannot be this naive. Please. Have you had any life experiences... ever? Come on now; Stevie Wonder can see this blatant manipulation of truth from Donald.

Unions are cancer, they destroy jobs by juicing companies out of last penny. Thats why our taxes are so high because all the state and city jobs are given to the unions. Union worker average salary in NY is $100,000 , and they dont do #

a reply to: reldra

You like Trump i get it. He can do no wrong to you, and you think he is going to save you. You are the exact reason why this great nation is in the position we are in. You are probably black or mexican and are on welfare. Bitch Please. Keep reading and using critical thinking if you understand what that is. Keep reading you really need to understand that Hillary is Crooked but Trump is a serial rapist and a con man. But dont believe me im only a bit ahead of you , because i was in NYC when 911 happend and i had no choice but to open my eyes and start using my head. I hope you dont have to wait until Trump kills thousands of ppl before you learn.

DP edit