The UFO Blacklist - Why was my ADGUK, 3rdPhase, SecureTeam10, Section51, etc, video moved to HOAX?

originally posted by: DreamerOracle

It seems ATS thinks we have somehow lost the ability to sort fact from fiction.

Then that,would be more of a Liberal or Progressive mind think!

originally posted by: JHenski
Then that,would be more of a Liberal or Progressive mind think!

Possibly "extremist" viewpoint. Left or right. Let's give credit for believing crazy crap where it's due.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: JHenski
Then that,would be more of a Liberal or Progressive mind think!

Possibly "extremist" viewpoint. Left or right. Let's give credit for believing crazy crap where it's due.

My fault!
I was speaking directly to the poster about ATS Right wing mindset.So I cut out most of the OP thoughts,because he knew what I meant.
You're right of course,about extremism and political stance!

a reply to: JHenski

why do people have to drag political ideology into things ?

I agree with this BlackList. However - I think about a channel like SecureTeam differently.

i'm not going to attempt to be a purist. This guy is banking off the topic of UFOs and i'm not going to chastize anyone for capitalizing on it. If anything, he has +1mm followers who are now looking a the sky. That's a good thing for those of us who are engaged in more in-depth UFOlogy.

Second, someone like seucre team with it's huge audience might actually capture some smoking gun footage - meaning people willl actualy talk to him - meaning I bet he's seen some garbage and some compelling evidence.

This all said, I understand the terms and conditions and will reference nothing on this list - at least knowingly.

a reply to: _BoneZ_

Not everything is a hoax on secureteam! what if I was to post bob lazar's interview with Tyler (secure team) on here will that be a hoax! list is stupid!

a reply to: ototheb85

Bob Lazar do you want to buy a big red bridge in San Francisco from me honest I own it

a reply to: _BoneZ_

Why is it that when you need it the freaking camera sheets the bed and I move causing distortion in what should have been a clear shot of this ting doing a flyby between me and the moon at 6:00. As far as your question goes a lot of SHILLS in this business who make a living off it so they keep everything a mystery. Well at least I was contacted by the owner of a large UFO group not on the list so me feels good. Excellent post OP. Just don't get discouraged and STOP.

a reply to: _BoneZ_
HOAX is HEX it is a spell, a magic word with much psychological power.
It brings the collective mind into "unbelief".
This is why it is used.
Just imagine... Someone "conspiring" to fool you for personal gain.... A "HOAX"...

...the irony...

Ufology should have listen to the morality implied by the children’s story the boy who cried wolf.

The UFO community has pushed too many hoaxes as fact, and now suffers from their inability to police themselves.

It really is that simple.

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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: JHenski

why do people have to drag political ideology into things ?

Because a whole lot of people have been trained to act that way by being Facebook members. That--as well as making Youtube comments.

It's petty and toxic. I don't go there.

I've viewed videos on secureteam10 before. If you don't mind me asking, what hoax have they created? I'd hate to believe something which is not true.

originally posted by: just2cents
I've viewed videos on secureteam10 before. If you don't mind me asking, what hoax have they created? I'd hate to believe something which is not true.

He did in fact try to make his followers think he was being watched by someone in a parked car outside his home when it was just a prank that he admitted to a day or two later. Some of his followers still think it was real even though he had a video up admitting it was BS. He also kept staging livestreams on YouTube that were being "taken down" Yet the stream kept going with super chat enabled where he gathered thousands in donations.

It's not that he creates hoax videos himself, it's more about the videos he pushes as legit when 99% of them are fake and pretty obvious fakes. He pushes damn near anything sent to him as legit. Every once in a while he'll question a video here and there, but very rarely.

Never respected the guy at all. He's all about pushing merchandise and thinks of himself as this highly respected ufologist when he's never done any actual research at all and has proven numerous times he's very ignorant on cases that are very well known. He has commented on older videos as if they're brand new to the world. Videos that have been known about for years.

I believe he was genuine in the beginning. Saw how much money it brings in and started caring more about pushing merchandise. He literally just reports on e-mails sent to him with occasional interviews with people whose stories most of us already know about.

a reply to: continuousThunder

Exactly, you give hoax sites to much power by saying "everything" they post is fake, personally I dont know any of those sites but to say it's all fake without studying it all, then you are being ignorant.
Been found to fake for monetary purposes, yes.

originally posted by: ColaTesla
secure team 10 is a well known youtube hoax page, never believe anything that comes from there.

yep, definitely a fake.

The two brothers who pump out cgi fake ufo footage are a cancer to serious ufology, their videos muddying the waters even more than they already are... All they do is make things worse.

a reply to: _BoneZ_
What the hell is a UFO researcher? Been on this site of years and have yet to see one. I call shenanigans on that.

And more then half the crap on the front page, should be on this hoax list as well. But then again, most of it is still more factual then 80% of the mass media outlets junk.

In all seems people still keep forgetting that pretty much everything you see in the medias, is just for the most part, entertainment.

But if you guys are binning stuff, may at least give more of reason then its on our list, and so it must go.

I've watched Secureteam10 for years but take everything he says with a pinch of salt. He does have some interesting content that you have to make your own mind up about.
I remember the car park incident, but don't ever remember a video or from the man himself saying it was a prank.

He is currently dealing with personal issues with deaths in the family so hasn't posted in a while.

I normally watch for entertainment more than enything.

Secureteam is awesome and legit.

I don't remember him ever saying that the car-watching thing was a prank... It was legit AFAIK. I mean, he was probably getting himself paranoid over nothing, but I also don't think it was a prank or staged or whatever.

Maybe it's to his credit that he has so many people trying so hard to slander his name online, such as this thread lol. Maybe it's because he does occasionally have something great on his channel...