The UFO Blacklist - Why was my ADGUK, 3rdPhase, SecureTeam10, Section51, etc, video moved to HOAX?

originally posted by: horatio321

originally posted by: WarriorMH

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: wmd_2008

OK, I hear you. No - quirks in google moon or google earth are hardly grounds for shouting about. I saw one recently about an under sea entrance which was fairly ridiculous. Having said that - it took an eagle eye to spot it!

I generally find the ST10 videos entertaining though - he seems pleasant enough, but it's down to the individual to decide what's what - Tyler obviously believes what he's saying is impartial. Is he deliberately trying to deceive?

I guess once you're on the BS list, it's zero credibility time. But don't we run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water with that mentality? The videos don't cost us anything to watch and not all of them are total boll@cks. Tyler is a reporter and brings the stories to you on tap. It's easy. The jingle, the icon, the voice - it's all so instantly recognisable.

He's almost like the MacDonalds of the UFO news world.

C'mon wmd_2008 - it's filthy, yet you know you want it.....LOL Sure, every now and then, you get a cold burger or a half filled carton of fries.

But he produces 12762 videos a year (I may have made that number up a bit) so what do you expect?

You sound like you are the guy, or close to him. How do you know how many videos a year?

Damn! Rumbled...again. I just wish I could get away with using ATS like all the rest of you. LOL!

Sorry i don't understand "Rumbled again" but never mind me, i'm just crazy

originally posted by: WarriorMH

originally posted by: horatio321

originally posted by: WarriorMH

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: wmd_2008

OK, I hear you. No - quirks in google moon or google earth are hardly grounds for shouting about. I saw one recently about an under sea entrance which was fairly ridiculous. Having said that - it took an eagle eye to spot it!

I generally find the ST10 videos entertaining though - he seems pleasant enough, but it's down to the individual to decide what's what - Tyler obviously believes what he's saying is impartial. Is he deliberately trying to deceive?

I guess once you're on the BS list, it's zero credibility time. But don't we run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water with that mentality? The videos don't cost us anything to watch and not all of them are total boll@cks. Tyler is a reporter and brings the stories to you on tap. It's easy. The jingle, the icon, the voice - it's all so instantly recognisable.

He's almost like the MacDonalds of the UFO news world.

C'mon wmd_2008 - it's filthy, yet you know you want it.....LOL Sure, every now and then, you get a cold burger or a half filled carton of fries.

But he produces 12762 videos a year (I may have made that number up a bit) so what do you expect?

You sound like you are the guy, or close to him. How do you know how many videos a year?

Damn! Rumbled...again. I just wish I could get away with using ATS like all the rest of you. LOL!

Sorry i don't understand "Rumbled again" but never mind me, i'm just crazy

'On no, I've been rumbled'.... is another way of saying 'oh no, I've been caught', and there are loads of other ways of saying it. It's just a figure of speech in the UK. Not sure if it's used much in the USA.

Anyway, I was just rolling along with your hypothesis that I was SC10 or close to him for a laugh!

I know on a 'sensible' forum like ATS #cough# SC10 is frowned upon as unreliable, but I still see the occasional video of his if it's covering something interesting, I don't see the harm in it personally, so long as he's not deliberately trying to mislead or make something out of nothing. Unfortunately, he's already blotted his copy book. Oh - and that's another way of saying he's already been 'rumbled' leading people 'up the garden path'.

i still watch secureteam10 but at this point more of as entertainment of what the new thing they/he try to push.

originally posted by: horatio321

originally posted by: WarriorMH

originally posted by: horatio321

originally posted by: WarriorMH

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: wmd_2008

OK, I hear you. No - quirks in google moon or google earth are hardly grounds for shouting about. I saw one recently about an under sea entrance which was fairly ridiculous. Having said that - it took an eagle eye to spot it!

I generally find the ST10 videos entertaining though - he seems pleasant enough, but it's down to the individual to decide what's what - Tyler obviously believes what he's saying is impartial. Is he deliberately trying to deceive?

I guess once you're on the BS list, it's zero credibility time. But don't we run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water with that mentality? The videos don't cost us anything to watch and not all of them are total boll@cks. Tyler is a reporter and brings the stories to you on tap. It's easy. The jingle, the icon, the voice - it's all so instantly recognisable.

He's almost like the MacDonalds of the UFO news world.

C'mon wmd_2008 - it's filthy, yet you know you want it.....LOL Sure, every now and then, you get a cold burger or a half filled carton of fries.

But he produces 12762 videos a year (I may have made that number up a bit) so what do you expect?

You sound like you are the guy, or close to him. How do you know how many videos a year?

Damn! Rumbled...again. I just wish I could get away with using ATS like all the rest of you. LOL!

Sorry i don't understand "Rumbled again" but never mind me, i'm just crazy

'On no, I've been rumbled'.... is another way of saying 'oh no, I've been caught', and there are loads of other ways of saying it. It's just a figure of speech in the UK. Not sure if it's used much in the USA.

Anyway, I was just rolling along with your hypothesis that I was SC10 or close to him for a laugh!

I know on a 'sensible' forum like ATS #cough# SC10 is frowned upon as unreliable, but I still see the occasional video of his if it's covering something interesting, I don't see the harm in it personally, so long as he's not deliberately trying to mislead or make something out of nothing. Unfortunately, he's already blotted his copy book. Oh - and that's another way of saying he's already been 'rumbled' leading people 'up the garden path'.

Yeah i don't like to see things when i know people lie to me, it is dumb and stupid

I rather see a dog poop than accept someone lying to me and me still knowing it going to watch the lie and give him credit by increment his youtube views, no thank you

a reply to: _BoneZ_

Could I politely ask, as a long term lurker and recent poster, that anything involving David Wilcock and/or Corey Goode please be added to the black-list? I don't know them personally, but they are clearly a pair of hoaxers. As things stand there are at least 4 threads related to their nonsense, with recent 'new' users bigging them up. Call me old fashioned, but surely these posters are just attempting to gain publicity for these two clowns -?

a reply to: Pathaka

Can you harder?

As to this so-called blacklist... I simply ignored it, as we have enough censorship in the world without the one place people used to come to debate the validity of a given subject such as fake UFO footage... let's call it the Golden Era of ATS before it became the mouthpiece of the Right, very much a shame. If I do get any UFO footage throughout my observations, unfortunately, ATS has become the last place on my list.

It seems ATS thinks we have somehow lost the ability to sort fact from fiction.

i enjoy SC10, i have always enjoyed him.


trust your own BS meter, he is in the BUSINESS of making videos and even if he gets one person to open their eyes he has done his job

originally posted by: DreamerOracle
As to this so-called blacklist... I simply ignored it, as we have enough censorship in the world without the one place people used to come to debate the validity of a given subject such as fake UFO footage... let's call it the Golden Era of ATS before it became the mouthpiece of the Right, very much a shame. If I do get any UFO footage throughout my observations, unfortunately, ATS has become the last place on my list.

It seems ATS thinks we have somehow lost the ability to sort fact from fiction.

Chuck your toys back in the pram the blacklist are sites out to post any old BS re ufo's at least on here many members have the knowledge & expertise to look at videos and images for the evidence it could be real and if we find reasons that it's hoax/BS we explain that as well you wont get that on those sites.

Obviously, your someone who doesn't frequent them often...SC10 have called hoax on many occasion.

But that's by the by, The so-called blacklist means absolutely nothing in the big scheme of things. Trying to be relevant by censorship... didn't work for Hitler and we aren't burning our books.

a reply to: DreamerOracle

The so-called blacklist means absolutely nothing in the big scheme of things.

It isn't meant to be.

Trying to be relevant by censorship... didn't work for Hitler and we aren't burning our books.

Do you know what else starts with a letter H? Hyperbole and histrionics.

sc10 does more harm than good,and no the end dosent justify the means.Its like the story with the shepard yelling wolf wolf.

Then again in our age and time anything for a penny,thats sc10 motto

a reply to: DreamerOracle

SC10 runs a tv station essentially, he needs to make money and in the start up he definitely posted some really bad fakes but no he has so many watchers and senders that he will without a doubt post real stuff.

damned if he does, damned if he doesn't

im sure he is a believer in the topic, and if you have watched him over time his knowledge increases. like many of us here when we were freshmen


take third phase of moon. that is total trash and i dont think he is into ufology, i think he runs anything for views.

I agree with most of this list besides one or 2. The one thing I don’t understand is in the website you list takes a lot of time to debunk and list what it says is a fake which most are, but a few. One example would be anon global, the story they have on that is way off fact and is simply based on there ideas. But still, I agree with most of the list. The one thing I do not understand is why no list of someone deems what is credible, whatever that is in this section of the topic. I would like to see a list of credible. Just a thought..... There are lots of fakes and is hard to find real when you are dealing with this topic. Love 2 see what you think is credible. So I urge you to place a list of sources you think we should look at. Thanks

I feel ya BoneZ, I initially attempted to start publishing research here and made the "mistake" or using a secureteam10 video as a means to link to some original content(not even the video he posted itself but just so people could follow the link to the original footage he left in the video description) and it was immediately moved as well. I did speak to the moderator that did it and was told that Tyler is considered a "prolific hoaxer". I felt this was a distasteful control of speech and have yet to ever attempt to create any post here again due to this.

I watch secureteam10 all the time... How is that channel a hoax?

a reply to: _BoneZ_

One would think that any video purported to be of an alien craft would be a hoax.
Unidentified is one thing. Lots of that up there.

originally posted by: johnrobca
This is an excellent list thank you ..... but is there a list of genuine youttube channels that we can trust?

Very good question, especially since we are talking about places where other people send the stuff to them and they simply present it and ask what people think. Can't see how that is a hoax anymore than the many individuals on ATSD who put threads up when they say they see something or experience something. It is simply presented, what People believe or whether it is true or not who can say.

I agree completely but what can you do?