The UFO Blacklist - Why was my ADGUK, 3rdPhase, SecureTeam10, Section51, etc, video moved to HOAX?

originally posted by: lunarrover
a reply to: Czulkang

Some of the best evidence has come from him, he posted an image that showed anomalies on the moon. I checked the source and it proved to be real. He is legit IMO.

LOL no he isn't. He does "ZERO" research and only posts tabloid stuff. Everything he posts has no truth behind it and it's all speculation.

He calls him self a "researcher" yet all he does is read user submitted emails and "reports" on it but does absolutely ZERO research. ZERO.

He once posted a video of some zombie apocalypse group he claimed was some government agency. LMFAO it was a group made some dude and charged a fee to be part of the team and you got stickers n shirts and other nonsense lol. Such a joke of a channel.

I take people as I find them. Tyler from Secure Team 10 just seems to report on stuff that is submitted to him OR stuff that he's found and finds interesting. Yes, he firmly believes and I'm quite certain that some of his videos were based on content that was later proven to be hoaxed. And?

It doesn't bother me that he makes a sh#t ton of money off his YouTube channels because he puts a lot of effort into his work and the videos are entertaining - even if you don't share his opinion or enthusiasm for the subject. You can't hold that against him.

If he flat out lied about stuff in the past - then sure, he makes this list. But his videos are interesting. People just need to be objective and keep an intelligent bs filter active at all times. And to be honest, that's up to them to do.

a reply to: ColaTesla

www.youtube.com...

a reply to: horatio321

He still lies even when he knows it's been debunked he is only interested in the money and youtube gives him a ready supply of suckers.

Apparently the mods and log time members know all the hoaxers on You Tube. I mean, where do these guys get off sharing things like strange sighting that are reported on local news channels? And how about TPM taking viewer phone calls? Come on! Really? Please tell me a reliable UFO You Tuber I can follow. a reply to: _BoneZ_

a reply to: SweetpotatoJohnson

The reason they are treated as hoax channels is that they obviously are.They post any old BS even when it's been debunked or a blind man could see it's CGI. You have to remember on here we have people that know way more about video & photography than the aholes that run those sites

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: horatio321

He still lies even when he knows it's been debunked he is only interested in the money and youtube gives him a ready supply of suckers.

Refresh our memories - what stuff has he lied about and when.

I mean, are we talking 3rd Phase of Moon level bs or is it more subtle?

a reply to: horatio321

On mobile just now will reply later.

a reply to: horatio321

Search for this video on his site for a prime example of BS

ALIEN RUINS? Giant 200ft Pillars On The Moon Discovered! 5/23/16

Nobody with a real interest in seeing images of the Moon at high resolution would use Google Earth Moon option look at the claims made total and utter BS.

Many claims on that video and other Moon videos of his have been debunked on here.

a reply to: wmd_2008

OK, I hear you. No - quirks in google moon or google earth are hardly grounds for shouting about. I saw one recently about an under sea entrance which was fairly ridiculous. Having said that - it took an eagle eye to spot it!

I generally find the ST10 videos entertaining though - he seems pleasant enough, but it's down to the individual to decide what's what - Tyler obviously believes what he's saying is impartial. Is he deliberately trying to deceive?

I guess once you're on the BS list, it's zero credibility time. But don't we run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water with that mentality? The videos don't cost us anything to watch and not all of them are total boll@cks. Tyler is a reporter and brings the stories to you on tap. It's easy. The jingle, the icon, the voice - it's all so instantly recognisable.

He's almost like the MacDonalds of the UFO news world.

C'mon wmd_2008 - it's filthy, yet you know you want it.....LOL Sure, every now and then, you get a cold burger or a half filled carton of fries.

But he produces 12762 videos a year (I may have made that number up a bit) so what do you expect?

But don't we run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water

No, there's no "baby" in there.

a reply to: Godric



That made me laugh - a lot!

There are proven hoaxers who want glory and money (monetization from Youtube, BS books, website clicks, etc) and ones who do it for #s n giggles.

These two groups feed, either directly or indirectly, a group of gullible self-proclaimed 'ufo enthusiasts' who want to believe and gobble up any sort of info out there that seems to reinforce their point. Sometimes this causes a video or document that was made as a joke or flat-out, proven hoax to start circulating in UFO circles and gain some sort of acquired legitimacy until someone shoots it down.

I don't think the govt needs to finance disinformators. Maybe they order their own people (like Doty) to lead some overly inquisitive minds on fruitless chases to get them away from exposing real deal secret projects, but I don't believe in govt-financed hoax. All they need to do is let the hoaxers do their deed undisturbed. The waters are so muddy in terms of UFO phenomenon and so many hoaxsters enter the game now, especially now, when we have the free access to CGI and worldwide library of ideas and photos and videos to choose from for our new 'groundbreaking video', that the govt is probably chilling out relaxed, knowing that they have nothing to fear.

I bet that if a video of a real deal EBE surfaced on Youtube tomorrow it would be still called a CGI or costume hoax. That's the 'great' job the hoaxsters did to the UFO field - you could put the truth in plain sight now and no one would believe it.

I'm sorry if I sound bitter. 16 years of UFO research can do that to a person. You see so many BS spewed around, so many clowns trying to build their own cults and regugrigate old, often disproven info it begins to get sad.

Hoaxsters have IMO murdered the UFO field. It's still there and some people still research it - but it was swamped, swarmed by BS that made general public adopt an extremely unfriendly stance.

a reply to: Godric

was the baby abducted by aliens ?

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Godric

was the baby abducted by aliens ?

LMAO! Very good.

Or how about:

Watch SC10 and throw the bathwater out with the....bathwater.

a reply to: Jelonek

You're right. Hoaxers have obfuscated the whole field. We wouldn't notice that 1 real video in an ocean of hoaxes. That's why I watch anything remotely interesting with an open mind.

a reply to: horatio321

Well, an open mind is kind of a requirement in regards to Ufology, isn't it Because the level of strangeness can rapidly go from zero to over 9000! in moments.
During the early days, namely 50's and 60's lots of cases were sometimes dismissed as being too strange to fit the supposed die the ufologists wanted to apply to the field. Whereas the truth IMO is that the phenomenon itself deliberately does lots to appear as a hoax. Various entities, bizarre sightings and encounters that sometimes seem to be staged so the witness remembers them and passes them on further mudding the waters, are all part and parcel of this research field. Vallee, Bartholic, Turner, Jacobs, Hopkins etc were so swarmed with weirdness that they struggled to find some sort of solid ground in regards to the phenomenon while researching it.

Whoever is out there, they surely know us well and know how to game our perception, our behavior and our psychology to get a desired effect. That effect would be - total negation of their existence.

You know what? We still don't know how they really look like or what society do they have, what do they feel and what they do for a living. Every abduction, every encounter might be a total lie and a staged event. The intelligence behind all of this might look neither like a grey nor tall white, nordic or reptilian - but something else entirely.

originally posted by: SweetpotatoJohnson
Please tell me a reliable UFO You Tuber I can follow. a reply to: _BoneZ_

OpenMinds TV/ Alejandro Rojas i
www.youtube.com...

WhiteHouseUFO / Grant Cameron(you'll find some highly speculative stuff here as well, but not 100% proven/deliberate hoaxes)
www.youtube.com...

UFO Podcast / Martin Willis (as above, mostly interviews)
www.youtube.com...

SkyTour LiveStream / Marc D'Antonio (one of the best in photo / video analysis)
www.youtube.com...

UfoSeekers (produce their own material, don't just copy/paster others, some stuff is highly speculative)
www.youtube.com...

FindingUFO (mostly historical / archival stuff)
www.youtube.com...


Basic rule of thumb for Youtube "UFO" videos:

- If it doesn't show where / when / by whom was it recorded
- If it looks too good to be true
- if it has "AMAZING" "BEST" "SECRET" "HIDDEN" "REAL" "!!!!" or anything else all-caps in the title
- if it is copy-pasted to multiple channels, FB, IG, Twitter, etc

It is 99.9999999999999999999% likely to be a fake to grab your attention and get those youtube advertising dollars.

Don't click - look elsewhere and save your sanity

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: wmd_2008

OK, I hear you. No - quirks in google moon or google earth are hardly grounds for shouting about. I saw one recently about an under sea entrance which was fairly ridiculous. Having said that - it took an eagle eye to spot it!

I generally find the ST10 videos entertaining though - he seems pleasant enough, but it's down to the individual to decide what's what - Tyler obviously believes what he's saying is impartial. Is he deliberately trying to deceive?

I guess once you're on the BS list, it's zero credibility time. But don't we run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water with that mentality? The videos don't cost us anything to watch and not all of them are total boll@cks. Tyler is a reporter and brings the stories to you on tap. It's easy. The jingle, the icon, the voice - it's all so instantly recognisable.

He's almost like the MacDonalds of the UFO news world.

C'mon wmd_2008 - it's filthy, yet you know you want it.....LOL Sure, every now and then, you get a cold burger or a half filled carton of fries.

But he produces 12762 videos a year (I may have made that number up a bit) so what do you expect?

You sound like you are the guy, or close to him. How do you know how many videos a year?

originally posted by: WarriorMH

originally posted by: horatio321
a reply to: wmd_2008

OK, I hear you. No - quirks in google moon or google earth are hardly grounds for shouting about. I saw one recently about an under sea entrance which was fairly ridiculous. Having said that - it took an eagle eye to spot it!

I generally find the ST10 videos entertaining though - he seems pleasant enough, but it's down to the individual to decide what's what - Tyler obviously believes what he's saying is impartial. Is he deliberately trying to deceive?

I guess once you're on the BS list, it's zero credibility time. But don't we run the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water with that mentality? The videos don't cost us anything to watch and not all of them are total boll@cks. Tyler is a reporter and brings the stories to you on tap. It's easy. The jingle, the icon, the voice - it's all so instantly recognisable.

He's almost like the MacDonalds of the UFO news world.

C'mon wmd_2008 - it's filthy, yet you know you want it.....LOL Sure, every now and then, you get a cold burger or a half filled carton of fries.

But he produces 12762 videos a year (I may have made that number up a bit) so what do you expect?

You sound like you are the guy, or close to him. How do you know how many videos a year?

Damn! Rumbled...again. I just wish I could get away with using ATS like all the rest of you. LOL!