BREXIT: the full movie. Why England MUST vote to leave the EU.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Cobaltic1978
I think it's more complicated than that.

If you listen to the Scottish Nationalists, or rather Ms Sturgeon, the Scots want to be free of the English, but want to be shackled to Europe, and it's the English who want to be free from Europe but want the Scottish oil, or as is the reality Scottish no-oil.

Nothing's simple.

Plenty Oil mate. You've just not been paying attention.

Clair Ridge

A further development phase, called 'Clair Ridge', aims to develop other areas of the field with further fixed platforms. The field contains an estimated 8 billion barrels of oil, with an estimated 120,000 barrels per day production at peak levels.[3] The UK government approved the £4.5billion Clair Ridge development in October 2011[4] and production is scheduled to begin in 2016 and continue until 2050

To borrow a tactic from the Remain camp.
Scottish independence will lead to a massive increase in oil extraction and fossil fuel pollution.
Polar bears could be extinct by 2030!

See how it works?

a reply to: Soloprotocol
Isn't the Claire Oilfield near Orkney. Orkney wants independence from an independent Scotland?! Anyway, the no-oil was a reference to the general decline in production in Scottish fields and the rather disappointing levels of revenues due to global oil prices.

BBC North Sea Oil revenues

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Soloprotocol
Isn't the Claire Oilfield near Orkney. Orkney wants independence from an independent Scotland?!

Lol, the Scots Nat's absolutely hate that elephant in the room!

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Soloprotocol
Isn't the Claire Oilfield near Orkney. Orkney wants independence from an independent Scotland?!

Lol, the Scots Nat's absolutely hate that elephant in the room!

Thought I was reading about the Falklands , funny that .

Why don't we just have 0 tax on oil from the British rigs , everyone's a winner

a reply to: Denoli

99.what? percent was it the Falklands voted to be UK again?
But yeah, the Scots Nat's have an issue with the islands lol, they #ing hate it because they have to offer the same 'democracy' lol

a reply to: grainofsand

We might have an issue with it if true.

Care to show any evidence that the the islands would want independence from Scotland?

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Soloprotocol
Isn't the Claire Oilfield near Orkney. Orkney wants independence from an independent Scotland?! Anyway, the no-oil was a reference to the general decline in production in Scottish fields and the rather disappointing levels of revenues due to global oil prices.

BBC North Sea Oil revenues

Orkney is a part of Scotland. it's like saying the isle of white wants to be Independent from England ffs. talk about clutching at straws.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Ah, the Isle of Wight. I lived there once. There was an independence movement in the 1970's. They wanted the same status as the other Channel Islands. Oh, the political inclinations of Islands folk. Yet, Orkney and the other islands have stated a view that they want a referendum to leave an independent Scotland, should that ever happen. Not everyone in Scotland relishes independence.

Oh, and ffs calm down.

originally posted by: Denoli
Why don't we just have 0 tax on oil from the British rigs , everyone's a winner

They aint British mate. London sold and is still selling the licences to drill for SCOTLANDS oil to foreign companies.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: grainofsand

We might have an issue with it if true.

Care to show any evidence that the the islands would want independence from Scotland?

Orkney was an impressive 83.7% turnout in the referendum with a 34.4% vote share lead for staying with the UK.
Here's a wiki link ffs lol... en.wikipedia.org...

Search your own more detailed links if you like

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Soloprotocol

Ah, the Isle of Wight. I lived there once. There was an independence movement in the 1970's. They wanted the same status as the other Channel Islands. Oh, the political inclinations of Islands folk. Yet, Orkney and the other islands have stated a view that they want a referendum to leave an independent Scotland, should that ever happen. Not everyone in Scotland relishes independence.

Oh, and ffs calm down.

Bull#. The only time anyone ever heard of the Orkney islanders wanting a referendum to leave Scotland was 2 years ago. you know Pre referendum, coincidence???...
And Guess where the story came from.? It certainly wasn't the islanders themselves.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
And Guess where the story came from.? It certainly wasn't the islanders themselves.

Oh, right. Have I touched a nerve? Clearly it was an issue raised at the time of the Scottish referendum...

Plenty of other commentary

The Scottish (nationalist) government did not like the idea of a referendum!

However, there was a movement in the 1980s (Orkney and Shetland Movement) that highlighted independence. Who can predict these things? The ebb and flow of public opinion is an interesting thing.

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: grainofsand

We might have an issue with it if true.

Care to show any evidence that the the islands would want independence from Scotland?

Orkney was an impressive 83.7% turnout in the referendum with a 34.4% vote share lead for staying with the UK.
Here's a wiki link ffs lol... en.wikipedia.org...

Search your own more detailed links if you like

You do know that not voting for Scottish independence is not the same as wanting independence from Scotland?
Lots of areas voted against independence, dosent mean they want to leave Scotland any more than it means Glasgow or Dundee want to unilaterally leave the UK.
Show me a poll in favour of Orkney independence.

a reply to: paraphi

Lol...strong is the denial.

a reply to: paraphi

And when the Orkney & Shetland movement stood in an election they got just 14.5% of vote and only because the SNP didn't contest the election.

I believe the last poll had support for Indy from Scotland in single figures.

a reply to: paraphi

Less than 1300 hundred signatures on that petition.

This thread is about Britain leaving the EU, go back to that other forum if you want to discuss the Scottish referendum!
Rather than try to get one over the other, let's try and get a grip on the topic at hand please.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: Denoli
Why don't we just have 0 tax on oil from the British rigs , everyone's a winner

They aint British mate. London sold and is still selling the licences to drill for SCOTLANDS oil to foreign companies.

Ooh well pays for there trips to Monaco I suppose .

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
And Guess where the story came from.? It certainly wasn't the islanders themselves.

Oh, right. Have I touched a nerve? Clearly it was an issue raised at the time of the Scottish referendum...

Plenty of other commentary

The Scottish (nationalist) government did not like the idea of a referendum!

However, there was a movement in the 1980s (Orkney and Shetland Movement) that highlighted independence. Who can predict these things? The ebb and flow of public opinion is an interesting thing.

Questions raised over Isles “independence” front organisation
The RotI group formally lodged a petition with the Scottish Parliament in March calling for an independence referenda to be held on the three main island group, but only if Scots vote ‘Yes’ to Scottish independence in September. A number of the signatories to the petition are well-known Better Together supporters. Malcolm Lamont, purportedly from Lerwick in Shetland, is named as chief petitioner, but according to the Electoral Roll Lamont isn’t registered to vote and there are no official records for a Malcolm Lamont living permanently in Shetland.

Nice try.