U.S. Gives Sweeping Guidance to Schools on Transgender Students

I don't think One Eyed Charley suffered from hormones in the water.

Charles “Charley” Parkhurst, born 1812, was a stage coach driver in California during the gold rush. Born and orphaned in Vermont, Charley was raised as a girl until the age of 12, when he fled the orphanage he was raised in, donned boys’ clothes and became a stablehand for a stage coach driver, who then taught him the tricks of the trade. Without revealing his identity to anyone, he became an extremely proficient driver and was known as “One-eyed Charley” in the Sacramento area for the eye he lost from a horse kick. It was only after his death in 1879 from tongue cancer that it was discovered that he was a transgender man. youngmormonfeminists.org...

a reply to: Annee

Probably not...but I believe you know what I mean. There are many things in this world that are unique...a very small part of the population, etc. While I completely understand that some would find it offensive to find out their differences were caused by an external force...it is a possibility. And we humans like to know the "reason" for such differences.

I'm simply offering one possibility. But then again, I'm a computer programmer and web designer whose whole life is logical and about picking things apart to find out how...why and what.

Which I guess makes me a bit unique too? Maybe the hormones

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: Annee

Probably not...but I believe you know what I mean. There are many things in this world that are unique...a very small part of the population, etc.

Anything's possible. Some people object when you tell them they're animal or that they are a mutation. We are all mutations from the first human.

But, recent science and brain scans are pretty confident our brain defines we are born who we are.

Yes, our brains are "plastic" in that they do change and grow with our experiences and environment.

But, it still doesn't change the core of who we were born.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Problem is we're redefining what gender is.

It's no longer biological, no longer the genitalia you're born with, but rather what one declares on any given day. That's the slippery slope we're heading down.

While a tiny % will genuinely be transgendered and sincere about it, it opens the door for others to declare I'm a male on Mondays and a female on Thursdays, and no one can prove it right or wrong as it's a personal declaration, just like declaring I like coke more than pepsi.

Can't prove it either way.

We're turning gender into a declaration. And any arguing with that is bigoted or ignorant. Think about that.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I've often thought of that as well, with the crap and hormones and other unknown chemicals added to the food chain, it makes sense as to why this is happening. But there is a slight problem as well.

I'm not religious but lets use this as an example. People acting gay in the bible to the point where the 'angel' came down and burned the village to a crisp theory. I'm sure there are others but i'll use this one. They didn't use hormones back then in the food chain that i know of. What i think is going on here is deeper.

Subliminal Suggestion is what i'd go with. TV, Radio, Media, anything and everything.

a reply to: MysticPearl

It's interesting you brought that up, Pepsi and Coke. They are both competitors of each other, even though they are both Owned by the Same Company. Kind of like what's going on with issues we're seeing today run by People who are supposed to work for Us NOT Us for Them. aka Big Gov't.

I'm going to believe these people.

Ben Barres, transgender:

Ben A. Barres (born Barbara Barres, in 1955) is an American neurobiologist at Stanford University.[1] His research focuses on the interaction between neurons and glial cells in the nervous system. Since 2008, he has been Chair of the Neurobiology department at Stanford University School of Medicine. He changed his sex to male in 1997, and became the first openly transgender scientist in the US National Academy of Sciences in 2013. en.wikipedia.org...

Lynn Conway, transgender:

Lynn Conway (born January 2, 1938) is an American computer scientist, electrical engineer, inventor, and transgender activist.[4] Conway is notable for a number of pioneering achievements, including the Mead & Conway revolution in VLSI design, which incubated an emerging electronic design automation industry. She worked at IBM in the 1960s and is credited with the invention of generalised dynamic instruction handling, a key advance used in out-of-order execution, used by most modern computer processors to improve performance. en.wikipedia.org...

Rebecca Allison, transgender:

Rebecca Anne "Becky" Allison (born December 21, 1946) is an American cardiologist and transgender activist. She served as President of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association (GLMA)[1] and as Chair of the American Medical Association's Advisory Committee on Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender Issues. en.wikipedia.org...

Marci Bowers, transgender

Marci Lee Bowers (born January 18, 1958) is an American gynecologist who operated a surgical practice in Trinidad, Colorado. She moved her practice to San Mateo, California, in December 2010. Bowers is viewed as an innovator in the field of sex reassignment surgery, as well as a pioneer, being the first trans woman to be performing the surgery. Bowers has been referred to as the "Rock Star" of transgender surgery. en.wikipedia.org...

Alan L. Hart, transgender

Alan L. Hart (October 4, 1890 – July 1, 1962) was an American physician, radiologist, tuberculosis researcher, writer and novelist. He was in 1917-18 one of the first trans men to undergo hysterectomy and gonadectomy in the United States, and lived the rest of his life as a man. He pioneered the use of x-ray photography in tuberculosis detection, and helped implement TB screening programs that saved thousands of lives. en.wikipedia.org...

Yes...to all of you. I would like to suggest before I sign off for the night that it isn't so much our individual differences that is the problem. It is those of us, those of government and other groups that choose to use these differences to pit us against one another. Obama didn't start this because he has some warm spot in his heart for the transgendered. This is being used as a weapon against the people and for political reasons...and personal gain.

Regardless what brought us to this point, I hope that somehow we can solve problems instead of feeding the beast that uses them to their own benefit. We can all still argue, debate or fight...lets just not do so for the entertainment of those that are the source of the problem.

Peace...and goodnight.

a reply to: Annee

NOTE: Everyone on your list, they're Trans. How can an individual with a Mental Illness speak for the Majority of the Planet? Hmmmm makes one wonder who's agenda is actually running this rock don't it.

People who aren't like 99.9% of the population want the rest of us to believe in them so much, they're pushing up daisies.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: Annee

NOTE: Everyone, they're Trans.

People who aren't like 99.9% of the population want the rest of us to believe in them so much, they're pushing up daisies.

You do not live in a Democracy.

a reply to: Annee

And you do not get to Dictate what I am by birth, nor what i believe simply because you say so.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: Annee

And you do not get to Dictate what I am by birth, nor what i believe simply because you say so.

What does that have to do with this not being a Democracy?

3 pages later and still no one wants to tell me where the line is drawn. Deflection is afoot.

originally posted by: In4ormant
3 pages later and still no one wants to tell me where the line is drawn. Deflection is afoot.

There's a line?

Guess you need to figure that out first.

a reply to: Annee

Why don't you figgure it out, you seem to think you've got all the answers for the entire globe. go on figgure it out then.

originally posted by: awareness10
a reply to: Annee

Why don't you figgure it out, you seem to think you've got all the answers for the entire globe. go on figgure it out then.

Testy testy

I know, if you are American, you do not have a Democratic government.

Stating fact and informative information is not dictating.

Your perception seems to be flawed.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: In4ormant
3 pages later and still no one wants to tell me where the line is drawn. Deflection is afoot.

There's a line?

Guess you need to figure that out first.

Once again you deflect. The concerns of others.
Is there a line? I'm asking.



If this person identifies as a woman are they allowed on the women's weightlifting team?
How about the wrestling team?

If there's no line then I would guess you would say yes but I don't want to put words in your mouth so you tell me.

I'm only surprised it took this long for the Obama administration to step in.

originally posted by: SmurfRider
I'm only surprised it took this long for the Obama administration to step in.

How much was Obama's doing, other then supporting what the U.S. Departments of Justice and Education already made plans to do?

Release Joint Guidance to Help Schools Ensure the Civil Rights of Transgender Students

a reply to: Annee

tsk tsk ... edgy aren't we?

America is a Corporation run by Rats.

If you haven't figgured that out yet, you never will..

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