Muhamed was a child molester.

originally posted by: pheonix358
Just to correct this.

He married a 9 year old but ....

as far as I am aware ......

He didn't have sexual relations with the child until after 2 years.



It seems this makes a difference to some believers.

Most of our species has grown up a little, where this concept of a child bride sickens us .....

As It Should

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He married a 6 year old.

he waited till she was 9 to consummate the marriage.

He was a child molester.

originally posted by: MysterX
By ignoring the morality of the issue because it's how they were raised, and they enjoy the experience of eating meat.

Now apply that to the issue raised in the opening post of this thread.

Hypocritical? Probably, but as this thread is showing...we Humans are a very hypocritical bunch as a species, if it suits us we will build weapons that obliterate innocents, including many hundreds of thousands of children, but are quite happy to skip off to the treasury counting our profits from the sales of the weapons used to slaughter them...but seem to get quite upset when topics such as underage sex rears it's ugly head...hypocritical?

I don't shy away from the fact that I too am a hypocrite at times.

And I agree with you on your overall argument.

a reply to: sHuRuLuNi

That is because you are simply wrong, Walid Schoebat used to be a radicalised muslim until he heard the call of Christ, it is from watching his speeches I get my information.
shoebat.com...

Yes I am a Christian and DO have an axe to grind but it is my lord that will come to cut that particular tree down when it is time to do so.

So I am biased.

But see why?.







And Aisha was only about 17 or 18 when he died, he consumated the marriage in later version's of the koran at the age of 9 but in earlier version's there was no argument that it was at the age of 6 but she did go bald and he DID practic thighing with her, look at the little girl of six in the Yemen whom died only a few years ago when her 26 year old husband killed her by performing sex on her at that age, illiterate is not an excuse it is pure abomination and NOT of ANY GOD.

a reply to: OpenEars123

I also noticed that our resident thetan became very inactive in his/her threads about Scientology. He/she seems MUCH more lively here, when he/she is dragging someone else's religion through the mud.

a reply to: Dark Ghost

As i agree with yours mate.

Hi Muslim Here , you can chose to believe me or not , Scholars are in agreement that she was around 16 years of age.

So if you chose to take info from a website that is anti Islam then i would say bask in the ignorance.

but keep in mind 100 years ago or less here in the USA it was common to marry at the age of 16 .

this argument has been debated over for years on ATS , stop spreading rubbish .

And if you chose to debate me on this ill be more then happy to provide the evidence but even then i doubt you ill take note .

a reply to: southbeach

Yes, too many muslims there now,arrested or attacked, be carefull....

a reply to: Kapusta

I disagree for many reason's but you do have a point, in the middle ages men in the illiterate europe of the time were life was brutal and short often married children of about the same age, it was as disgusting though then as it is today and in my mind a man is not adult until he is about 24, woman do mentally mature a little earlier so about 21 but then I am conservative on this issue.

I wish you peace but Please learn about my religion and maybe you will hear the truth in it IF he wants you to.

originally posted by: Dark Ghost

originally posted by: Vector99
This comment intrigued me. How do you explain the existence of incisor and canine teeth in humans?

What I meant to say, but didn't word it so well it seems, is that vegetarians are able to live normal lives and survive without eating meat, therefore non-vegetarians could technicality also survive if they chose not to eat meat. So why do non-vegetarians still eat meat?

ETA: For those curious: I am NOT a vegetarian. So although it might seem strange that I am arguing "in favour" of vegetarianism while I'm not even one myself, I am merely using the topic of Vegetarianism to demonstrate a point.

Well that's because humans are omnivores.

Can you show me any other herbivore with incisors and canines?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: crazyewok

The middle ages were just full of pedophiles.

And witch burners.
Ethical?

Which group of people today are claiming that people, or even an individual, who burnt witches, are the most perfect of people to have ever been born.

And FGM is torture. And the repeated rape by a 40-50 year old, torture.

Wow, so many apologists for a religion that hold so many 'cultural norms of the time' close, in 2016.

originally posted by: [post=20713974]Vector99


Can you show me any other herbivore with incisors and canines?

A beaver has some pretty impressive incisors...and they eat tree bark and plants.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: bally001

It's the accepted historical age of Mary, it's what they did in that era.

Gross today? yes, but what's good for the god seemed to be good for the prophet .

Jesus was reportedly a virgin birth, meaning no intercourse took place. Your point is moot, and furthermore there is no mention of Mary's age in Biblical teachings. You are referring to conjecture.

originally posted by: MysterX

originally posted by: [post=20713974]Vector99


Can you show me any other herbivore with incisors and canines?

A beaver has some pretty impressive incisors...and they eat tree bark and plants.

Video or it didn't happen?

a reply to: ntech

The problem here is that it was 800 AD or there abouts. And the middle east. Pedophilia was still an unformed concept back then. You can't judge a historical figure by today's standards.

So using that reasoning The Koran and the Bible are of no relevance.

a reply to: angeldoll

Ah...but that's opening up a whole new can 'o worms...is it ethical to genetically fiddle with a child?

Artificial insemination is essentially what the 'Virgin birth' describes, (even holy artificial insemination is what it is) yet today, we would feel that to be as unethical as having outright intercourse with a young girl wouldn't we?

a reply to: Kapusta

In this age I do not care if she was 9 or 16. What I care about is can you help make all Muslim believe she was 16 so that no one can use Muhammad to justify child abuse?

This below is a good start to fix the wrongs.

a reply to: Vector99

LOL!

Obviously one of Phages 'aberrations of nature'

(sorry phage, just a bit of fun)

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Thetan
I'm not hostile. Irritated might be more accurate. How many times do you want me to make the same point?

By the standards of the Maya and Aztecs performing human sacrifice it was not only ethical, it was actually sacred and necessary.

We don't have over a billion Aztecs today claiming that to sacrifice a human to ensure abundant crops, though.

you seem to be missing the point, entirely.

You keep bringing up irrelevant comparisons. With perhaps the exception of male circumcision. Yes, I believe it is unethical. A barbaric practice that once more stems from religious ignorance. But that today has the support of "he'll get doodle cancer, so cut the top off it and save his life!" wierdos..

FGM is still rife, and unlike human sacrifices, embraced by the same people who hold a man who raped a 9 year old, as a perfect human.

No jail for mum and midwife found guilty of female genital mutilation of young girls

a reply to: ntech

But 800 years ago people had human brains as they do today. And "thought and comprehension" would tell people of that time it was wrong. The thought of this is revolting.

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: angeldoll

Ah...but that's opening up a whole new can 'o worms...is it ethical to genetically fiddle with a child?

Artificial insemination is essentially what the 'Virgin birth' describes, (even holy artificial insemination is what it is) yet today, we would feel that to be as unethical as having outright intercourse with a young girl wouldn't we?

Yeah, I think you and a couple of other people need to go make a thread on what an utter piece of garbage/trash the Christian God is. Maybe it will may you feel good, knowing you have moral superiority over God.


While you are vilifying God, you can point out how super cool Mohammed was, and deserving of all the billions of worshipers who follow him to this day.


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