Cruz calls for patrols of Muslim neighborhoods

a reply to: Swills

No, it's been widely reported across Europe for years.

Many of the "no-go" zones function as microstates governed by Islamic Sharia law. Host-country authorities effectively have lost control in these areas and in many instances are unable to provide even basic public aid such as police, fire fighting and ambulance services.

The "no-go" areas are the by-product of decades of multicultural policies that have encouraged Muslim immigrants to create parallel societies and remain segregated rather than become integrated into their European host nations. In the Tower Hamlets area of East London (also known as the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets), for example, extremist Muslim preachers, called the Tower Hamlets Taliban, regularly issue death threats to women who refuse to wear Islamic veils. Neighborhood streets have been plastered with posters declaring "You are entering a Sharia controlled zone: Islamic rules enforced." And street advertising deemed offensive to Muslims is regularly vandalized or blacked out with spray paint. In the Bury Park area of Luton, Muslims have been accused of "ethnic cleansing" by harassing non-Muslims to the point that many of them move out of Muslim neighborhoods. In the West Midlands, two Christian preachers have been accused of "hate crimes" for handing out gospel leaflets in a predominantly Muslim area of Birmingham. In Leytonstone in east London, the Muslim extremist Abu Izzadeen heckled the former Home Secretary John Reid by saying: "How dare you come to a Muslim area."

In France, large swaths of Muslim neighborhoods are now considered "no-go" zones by French police. At last count, there are 751 Sensitive Urban Zones (Zones Urbaines Sensibles, ZUS), as they are euphemistically called. A complete list of the ZUS can be found on a French government website, complete with satellite maps and precise street demarcations. An estimated 5 million Muslims live in the ZUS, parts of France over which the French state has lost control. Muslim immigrants are taking control of other parts of France too. In Paris and other French cities with high Muslim populations, such as Lyons, Marseilles and Toulouse, thousands of Muslims are closing off streets and sidewalks (and by extension, are closing down local businesses and trapping non-Muslim residents in their homes and offices) to accommodate overflowing crowds for Friday prayers. Some mosques have also begun broadcasting sermons and chants of "Allahu Akbar" via loudspeakers into the streets.

The weekly spectacles, which have been documented by dozens of videos posted on Youtube.com (here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here), and which have been denounced as an "occupation without tanks or soldiers," have provoked anger and disbelief. But despite many public complaints, local authorities have declined to intervene because they are afraid of sparking riots.

In the Belgian capital of Brussels (which is 20% Muslim), several immigrant neighborhoods have become "no-go" zones for police officers, who frequently are pelted with rocks by Muslim youth. In the Kuregem district of Brussels, which often resembles an urban war zone, police are forced to patrol the area with two police cars: one car to carry out the patrols and another car to prevent the first car from being attacked. In the Molenbeek district of Brussels, police have been ordered not to drink coffee or eat a sandwich in public during the Islamic month of Ramadan.

In Germany, Chief Police Commissioner Bernhard Witthaut, in an August 1 interview with the newspaper Der Westen, revealed that Muslim immigrants are imposing "no-go" zones in cities across Germany at an alarming rate.

In Sweden, which has some of the most liberal immigration laws in Europe, large swaths of the southern city of Malmö – which is more than 25% Muslim – are "no-go" zones for non-Muslims. Fire and emergency workers, for example, refuse to enter Malmö's mostly Muslim Rosengaard district without police escorts. The male unemployment rate in Rosengaard is estimated to be above 80%. When fire fighters attempted to put out a fire at Malmö's main mosque, they were attacked by stone throwers. In the Swedish city of Gothenburg, Muslim youth have been hurling petrol bombs at police cars. In the city's Angered district, where more than 15 police cars have been destroyed, teenagers have also been pointing green lasers at the eyes of police officers, some of whom have been temporarily blinded. In Gothenburg's Backa district, youth have been throwing stones at patrolling officers. Gothenburg police have also been struggling to deal with the problem of Muslim teenagers burning cars and attacking emergency services in several areas of the city.

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That's just one source from back in 2011. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Media across Europe have been covering this as the EU loses its grip on controlling the narrative.

There's plenty of videos on top of media reports from those who've ventured inside, citizens, journalists and law enforcement alike.

Anyone arguing this is a "fable", I just don't know what to say. Has the American media really pulled the wool over people's eyes to that extent?

originally posted by: HoldMyBeer
a reply to: MysticPearl

You may as well give up. Some like to pick and choose their MSM talking points, embracing it when it suits them and mocking it when it nukes their agenda. Because, you know, they can't discern reality for themselves.

It's simply amazing. Not sure why I'm even debating it now. Might as well debate someone who thinks the Earth is flat.

I mean, this is happening across Europe, numerous countries, cities large and small alike. With today's attack, we add that to Paris, the London bombings and the attacks previously in Sweden which have their roots in these heavily Islamic and some Sharia run neighborhoods.

Now if someone wants to argue these no-go zones aren't as bad as I am, go right ahead. But to argue they flat out don't exist, it's just some concoction from an outlet like Fox? Really not even worth debating. I got sucked in! Shame on me.

Probably a byproduct of America being so insulated, an ocean away. We operate in a bubble over here.

No go zones do exist. But Calls like these is making would make things matter much worse, in reality terrorists everywhere would be using it as a Propaganda tool.

a reply to: MysticPearl

Your 'source' is the Gatestone Institute, which is basically an Islamophobic hate group with its underpants on its head. I live in London and there are no 'no-go areas' in Tower Hamlets. Trust me, my wife works near there. And I know Leytonstone. And it's many, many, pubs.

It's just politically correct semantics. Intel guy on CNN just said that he has been surrounded by groups and gangs in areas of Brussels. That the groups have tried to impede police action. But then he said he wouldn't say there were necessarily "no go" zones.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

The MSM is largely a leftist, Islamic loving PR arm.

Of course, there are increasing no-go zones in England as there are elsewhere. Since you don't put much stock in the Gatestone Institute:

Warning for potential colorful language.







And there's plenty more.

a reply to: MysticPearl

(Facepalm)

Well, your first video is taken from the 2011 riots. Which had nothing to do with 'no-go' areas whatsoever. So pardon me if I point and laugh. Your other videos seemed to be largely incoherent rubbish by prats from the Britain First hate group. Who have a collective IQ of about 10. And your comment about the media is a load of absolute rubbish.
So, in summary, 0/10, go to the back of the class and try again.

a reply to: MysticPearl

Are you even listening here? AngryCymraeg lives there, and yet, you're going full retard insisting he's wrong. Are you saying a local is full of it?

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: MysticPearl

Are you even listening here? AngryCymraeg lives there, and yet, you're going full retard insisting he's wrong. Are you saying a local is full of it?

Obviously, AngryCymraeg is part of the liberal cover-up.

a reply to: MysticPearl

Widely reported? So that make's it true? Who widely reported it? Conservative new outlets and think tanks that you used as your source?

Well, I'll use my source, Snopes, I'm sure you'll hate it.

Caliph-ain't

Claim: A number of localities in the United States, France, and Britain are considered Muslim "no-go zones" (operating under Sharia Law) where local laws are not applicable.

"On Fox and elsewhere it's been reported that there are 751 "no go zones" in France where non-Muslims aren't allowed and only Sharia law is enforced. Also, Dearborn, Michigan is rumored to be governed by Sharia law and (alternatively) is a "no go zone"."

Origins: On 7 January 2015, gunmen stormed the offices of French satirical publication Charlie Hebdo, killing
12 employees and wounding several others in an attack by terrorists who reportedly said they were avenging the prophet Muhammad. Concerns about Islamic extremists intensified in the tragedy's aftermath and reinvigorated a long-circulating rumor involving Muslim "no go zones" in cities in both the United States and Europe.

The belief that large neighborhoods or entire towns and cities have been effectively placed outside local rule of law is in no way new: variations of the rumor have circulated since the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2001, but the rumor received both heightened attention and increased saturation after a controversial Fox News segment on 11 January 2015.

a reply to: MysticPearl

Largely leftist? Fox News is number 1, it dominates. CNN and MSNBC have terrible ratings, well last I checked but I'm sure much hasn't changed. CNN seems to cater to the right but nothing they do makes me believe they are leftest. MSNBC is just another corporate owned outlet that disguises itself as liberal who is another shame of journalism like the other two. I assume we're excluding online sites, even Fox and the rest of the ilk and concentrating on television?

Either way, the media is owned by a small group of elites so let's stop pretending everyone is paying attention to their news stations since their number 1 demographic are elderly people. My apologies to any elderly ATS members who may read this.

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: MysticPearl

Widely reported? So that make's it true? Who widely reported it? Conservative new outlets and think tanks that you used as your source?

Well, I'll use my source, Snopes, I'm sure you'll hate it.

Caliph-ain't

Claim: A number of localities in the United States, France, and Britain are considered Muslim "no-go zones" (operating under Sharia Law) where local laws are not applicable.

"On Fox and elsewhere it's been reported that there are 751 "no go zones" in France where non-Muslims aren't allowed and only Sharia law is enforced. Also, Dearborn, Michigan is rumored to be governed by Sharia law and (alternatively) is a "no go zone"."

Origins: On 7 January 2015, gunmen stormed the offices of French satirical publication Charlie Hebdo, killing
12 employees and wounding several others in an attack by terrorists who reportedly said they were avenging the prophet Muhammad. Concerns about Islamic extremists intensified in the tragedy's aftermath and reinvigorated a long-circulating rumor involving Muslim "no go zones" in cities in both the United States and Europe.

The belief that large neighborhoods or entire towns and cities have been effectively placed outside local rule of law is in no way new: variations of the rumor have circulated since the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2001, but the rumor received both heightened attention and increased saturation after a controversial Fox News segment on 11 January 2015.

I remember that Faux News segment. It prompted widespread hysterical laughter here in the UK, along with contemptuous tweets from David Cameron. It was a load of absolute honk.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: MysticPearl

(Facepalm)

Well, your first video is taken from the 2011 riots. Which had nothing to do with 'no-go' areas whatsoever. So pardon me if I point and laugh. Your other videos seemed to be largely incoherent rubbish by prats from the Britain First hate group. Who have a collective IQ of about 10. And your comment about the media is a load of absolute rubbish.
So, in summary, 0/10, go to the back of the class and try again.

I've already graduated from school and am dealing in the real word.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

What's that old saying by Ben Franklin...?

Ah, yes...

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: MysticPearl

Are you even listening here? AngryCymraeg lives there, and yet, you're going full retard insisting he's wrong. Are you saying a local is full of it?

What makes you think I don't now people who live abroad and witness this too?

Or is "living there" all you put stock in? You've merely put more stock in some who live there than others as numerous who live there have reported the same.

But we also see here in the states, "living here" doesn't negate being clueless.

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: MysticPearl

(Facepalm)

Well, your first video is taken from the 2011 riots. Which had nothing to do with 'no-go' areas whatsoever. So pardon me if I point and laugh. Your other videos seemed to be largely incoherent rubbish by prats from the Britain First hate group. Who have a collective IQ of about 10. And your comment about the media is a load of absolute rubbish.
So, in summary, 0/10, go to the back of the class and try again.

I've already graduated from school and am dealing in the real word.

Are you really? I live in the real world - the one that your 'sources' are so very incorrect about. You might want to rethink how much you have learnt.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: MysticPearl

(Facepalm)

Well, your first video is taken from the 2011 riots. Which had nothing to do with 'no-go' areas whatsoever. So pardon me if I point and laugh. Your other videos seemed to be largely incoherent rubbish by prats from the Britain First hate group. Who have a collective IQ of about 10. And your comment about the media is a load of absolute rubbish.
So, in summary, 0/10, go to the back of the class and try again.

I've already graduated from school and am dealing in the real word.

Are you really? I live in the real world - the one that your 'sources' are so very incorrect about. You might want to rethink how much you have learnt.

Leftists love burying their heads to reality. They ignore the growing problems until confronted in an often severe manner. Then, it's too late.

This is nothing new. Reality will bite and it'll bite hard. I accept your future apology.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: MysticPearl

(Facepalm)

Well, your first video is taken from the 2011 riots. Which had nothing to do with 'no-go' areas whatsoever. So pardon me if I point and laugh. Your other videos seemed to be largely incoherent rubbish by prats from the Britain First hate group. Who have a collective IQ of about 10. And your comment about the media is a load of absolute rubbish.
So, in summary, 0/10, go to the back of the class and try again.

I've already graduated from school and am dealing in the real word.

Are you really? I live in the real world - the one that your 'sources' are so very incorrect about. You might want to rethink how much you have learnt.

Eh, might as well give up, Angry. You live in the middle of sharia-heavy no-go zone, according to some random foreigner who relies on info from tourists (if he's being honest here, because I suspect "I know someone who knows someone who knows someone else who I think said" is at play)

Edit: I redact the tourists part,I read too fast (swear a "visited" claim was in there, but apparently not) I still maintain skepticism, you'd expect droves to be flocking to forums such as this to back the claim, no? Kinda funny no posters from these countries crop up united to back them.

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: MysticPearl

(Facepalm)

Well, your first video is taken from the 2011 riots. Which had nothing to do with 'no-go' areas whatsoever. So pardon me if I point and laugh. Your other videos seemed to be largely incoherent rubbish by prats from the Britain First hate group. Who have a collective IQ of about 10. And your comment about the media is a load of absolute rubbish.
So, in summary, 0/10, go to the back of the class and try again.

I've already graduated from school and am dealing in the real word.

Are you really? I live in the real world - the one that your 'sources' are so very incorrect about. You might want to rethink how much you have learnt.

Leftists love burying their heads to reality. They ignore the growing problems until confronted in an often severe manner. Then, it's too late.

This is nothing new. Reality will bite and it'll bite hard. I accept your future apology.

I see, so because I point out facts that deny your viewpoint, that makes me a 'leftist'. Fascinating. I live here in London, I have friends in Birmingham, my wife is a teacher in Barking and has taught in Tower Hamlets. You know what we have never seen, or even heard about (other than in total tosh from people like Faux News)? No-go areas. Never seen one, at all, ever. I have reality behind me. You seem to have hysteria and paranoia.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

People who actually live in these places don't know anything. They only live there, after all.