What Happened JUST BEFORE Justice Scalia Died is Raising Some SERIOUS Questions

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: xuenchen

So lets get this straight. Are you accusing Obama of murdering a Supreme Court justice in order to get his way on the decision?

Well in the often pointed out universe of those behind the curtain maybe but not Obama per say.

a reply to: xuenchen

the Clean Power Plan — is the main plank of Obama’s climate change agenda. It’s designed to cut carbon pollution from the electricity sector by 32 percent over 2005 levels by 2030 by assigning states individual reduction targets based on their energy mix.

Cut carbon pollution by over 32% over 2005 levels? So data that was collected 11 years ago? Is that another political trick to try to show how amazing this Clean Power Plan would be, even though we have already had 11 years to make improvements on those levels?

Pretty much anything you care to know. I strongly suspect you will find nothing that fits your political philosophy.

IMHO the Second Amendment ruling was a huge plus. Liberals ( I actually hate titles ) and Dems traditionally hate

said RIGHT ! : )

40 years an Independent, your assumptions are wrong. Tell a Republican you are an Independent and the take that as being a Liberal every time.

a reply to: xuenchen

Sorry, but I don't believe in "coincidence". This whole episode has the stink of "hit" all over it.

originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: IAMTAT

I think Scalia died, and the only people looking more ridiculous than the "all-in-unison" Republicans calling for Obama to wait for his successor to nominate are those who believe Scalia was murdered.

I hope he does wait, and then Bernie, or (God forbid) Hillary nominates Scalia's replacement and the next 4 after that. As long as they leave the 2nd Amendment alone, it may be our only hope in stopping Republicans from continuing their attack of freedom and personal choice in the US.

So you think the way to safeguard personal freedom and liberty is to put an avowed socialist and closet communist in charge of the process to stack the SC?

You need to go back and look at the definitions of political philosophy. You will not find Socialism and Communism anywhere near personal Freedom and Liberty.

originally posted by: Logarock


Well in the often pointed out universe of those behind the curtain maybe but not Obama per say.

Something more along the lines of Spectre, I imagine.

Note to self: Do not sleep with my pillow over my head.

a reply to: supremecommander

Not correct. I have based this on all the information available to me, and my extraordinary ability to analyze many different factors without dip#s like you deterring me with your childish comments.

a reply to: visitedbythem

Interesting, I was kicked off this site for suggesting that a while back.

a reply to: xuenchen

life is just one big conspiracy to you, huh?....nothing bad ever happens in this world that isn't generated by some deliberative entity, right?....your paranoia is consuming your critical-thought processes.

Look out.

The Fact Police are coming for your opinions !!

originally posted by: jimmyx
a reply to: xuenchen

life is just one big conspiracy to you, huh?....nothing bad ever happens in this world that isn't generated by some deliberative entity, right?....your paranoia is consuming your critical-thought processes.

Not "just one big conspiracy".

Several all at the same time.

a reply to: xuenchen

Coincidence? or Heavy Duty Conspiracy?

Heavy Duty Conspiracy.

originally posted by: ugmold

Pretty much anything you care to know. I strongly suspect you will find nothing that fits your political philosophy.

IMHO the Second Amendment ruling was a huge plus. Liberals ( I actually hate titles ) and Dems traditionally hate

said RIGHT ! : )

40 years an Independent, your assumptions are wrong. Tell a Republican you are an Independent and the take that as being a Liberal every time.

Well I suppose I should not assume. My apology. I'm also an independent, however I agree with 99 % of his decisions.
Did you find ANYTHING to your liking in the links I provided ?

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: xuenchen


So what is the conspiracy here. Who took out Scalia and why?

Over the global warming issue?

I'm all for conspiracies but this one is kind of weak

Gun control legislation would be my guess.

a reply to: GeisterFahrer

Gun control legislation would be my guess.

You mean the NRA killed him?

“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. ‘Miller’ said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those ‘in common use at the time.’ 307 U.S., at 179, 59 S.Ct. 816. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com...

originally posted by: theantediluvian
The fundamental problem I see with the "Thanks Obama" theory is that there's no way in hell that a GOP controlled Senate is going to confirm any Obama appointment.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

originally posted by: ugmold

Pretty much anything you care to know. I strongly suspect you will find nothing that fits your political philosophy.

IMHO the Second Amendment ruling was a huge plus. Liberals ( I actually hate titles ) and Dems traditionally hate

said RIGHT ! : )

40 years an Independent, your assumptions are wrong. Tell a Republican you are an Independent and the take that as being a Liberal every time.

HA!

Republicans complain about Republicans not being Republican enough.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: GeisterFahrer

Gun control legislation would be my guess.

You mean the NRA killed him?

“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. ‘Miller’ said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those ‘in common use at the time.’ 307 U.S., at 179, 59 S.Ct. 816. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com...

You might want to read what Scalia actually said buddy

Justice Scalia also wrote: “It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service — M-16 rifles and the like — may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.”

a reply to: GeisterFahrer

You might want to read what Scalia actually said buddy

I did. I quoted him. He said that gun control is Constitutional, as are laws against certain types of weapons.

“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. ‘Miller’ said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those ‘in common use at the time.’ 307 U.S., at 179, 59 S.Ct. 816. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’”

originally posted by: Voyager1
For some reason its always more interesting to assume someone knocked a guy off rather than think a 79 year old man simply died a natural death. At that level everyone of importance is under a microscope and all of their associates. I seriously doubt he was knocked off.

While I can see your point about his age, the conditions described by his host are not usual.
I have an 89 year-old relative who is as active as the Judge with many health issues. If, two days after he saw a doc, he was found in dead in bed with a pillow over his head and his bedclothes in perfect order, the first order of business for me would be to find out the cause of his death.
Contrary to what many people obviously believe, that is NOT usual scene when people "die in their sleep." Talk to any ME or coroner and see how many times they've encountered a scene like this one was described. Even victims of massive stroke or aneurysm rupture move about enough to disturb the bedclothes.