Video of 1,400 More Americans Losing Their Jobs to Mexico- Sickening.

originally posted by: DexterRiley
a reply to: jacobe001

250 Million Chinese had their lands bull dozed and stolen and forced to move to the cities to make widgets.
There was nothing voluntary or Free about it which is required under Free Market Capitalism

I had not heard about that. Did that happen recently? I know that Chinese Chairman Mao did a lot of this kind of crap during the 1950s and 1960s. But you would think that the US would have penalized China for behavior like this if it had happened within the last couple of decades.

But of course the US Corporatocracy wouldn't allow anything to spoil America's good relations with China. Never let a "necessary" little human rights violation get in the way of profit.

-dex

You will never hear about Human Rights Abuses or Crimes Against Humanity among countries that are our Biggest Trading Partners.

You will only hear about it, if we need to invade them, then they use that excuse to drag people along with their hidden agendas. That is how they play the game.

Here an article on China's taking over independent farmers lands and forcing them to the cities

www.nytimes.com...

China’s Great Uprooting: Moving 250 Million Into Cities

Across China, bulldozers are leveling villages that date to long-ago dynasties. Towers now sprout skyward from dusty plains and verdant hillsides. New urban schools and hospitals offer modern services, but often at the expense of the torn-down temples and open-air theaters of the countryside.

“It’s a new world for us in the city,” said Tian Wei, 43, a former wheat farmer in the northern province of Hebei, who now works as a night watchman at a factory. “All my life I’ve worked with my hands in the fields; do I have the educational level to keep up with the city people?

If our government bull dozed and took over rural lands by the millions across America, people would be up in arms about it, but for the Corporate Globalists in regards to China, we heard not a peep. They have absolutely no problem with it when it is done in other countries.

Also, look into the thousands of people that are harvested for their organs in China.
Again, not a peep from the state department or main stream media.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
Ha. A little better retribution. Just thought I'd post the video again. Except instead of 3,000 views, this one has over 2.4 MILLION views:

In addition, the story made it to Drudge Report. Suffice it to say that Carrier is going to get a lot of very unsavory phone calls. I'd say critical mass was achieved.

But will even that be any deterrence to the greedy? I doubt it.

I would like to see a division in this country go viral where it is between the Globalists and Pro Americans because that is where the line should really be drawn, and at the political level.

a reply to: TrueAmerican
Congratulations TA!

It's folks like you that helped to bring this issue to the forefront. Maybe this will help those folks either keep their jobs, or receive a proper severance to help them find new gainful employment.

And, if this thread is any indication, it may start a public discourse about what is happening to the American economy as jobs are continuing to be shipped out of the country.

-dex

a reply to: TrueAmerican

1992+15 2007

1992+25 2017

so its almost been 25 years

$6/hr then is $10.14/hr now. I'd say we are getting close.

a reply to: jacobe001

So the Chinese, in an effort to transition their economy to be consumer based, are destroying an ancient culture and way of life. They are forcefully displacing these peasant farmers and taking their property to either bulldoze into parking lots or give to larger farming collectives. I can't even imagine the anguish these people are feeling about having to completely change everything they know.

From your link, I found this interesting:

Some young people feel lucky to have jobs that pay survival wages of about $150 a month;

...

But south of Chengdu in Shuangliu County, farmers who gave up their land for an experimental strawberry farm run by a county-owned company said they receive an annual payment equivalent to the price of 2,000 pounds of grain plus the chance to earn about $8 a day working on the new plantation.

“I think it’s O.K., this deal,” said Huang Zifeng, 62, a farmer in the village of Paomageng who gave up his land to work on the plantation. “It’s more stable than farming your own land.”

Good Grief! A full time person working in the US at the current minimum wage of $7.25 per hour grosses on average $1233.00 per month. That's over 8 times the Chinese equivalent.

And the old farmer is happy to get a ton of grain per year and $8.00 per day.

There is simply NO WAY to compete with those slave wages.

-dex

originally posted by: jellyrev
a reply to: TrueAmerican

1992+15 2007

1992+25 2017

so its almost been 25 years

$6/hr then is $10.14/hr now. I'd say we are getting close.

Less. You're using official inflation rate statistics which aren't calculated accurately. They're calculated in a way to keep prices down (and wages are just another price), not in a way that actually reflects inflation. It's the largest and arguably sole contributor as to why purchasing power has been going backwards for nearly 30 years now.

a reply to: TrueBrit
And that includes the skilled and the professionals..

People think doctors and nurses make a lot of money, they don't have a clue to how wrong they are. That is another boat that has long sailed.

My first nursing job out of college paid $75.00 an hour. That was in 1979. You know what a nurse right out of college gets paid now? $22.00 an hour or less, depending where and who she works for. Doctors haven't fared much better, even the specialist. Their salaries are steadily dropping also.

Who in their right mind, unless they are independently wealthy, or being taken care of by someone else, would go through the expense, time, and extreme effort it takes to be a medical professional, when you can make more money working almost any place else, without the long hours and abuse.

There is no incentive to become skilled in any arena anymore, as long as someone else if cutting your pay check. People need to get back to basics and only buy from local Mom and Pop businesses. That is the only way they are going to have a thriving community. Big business is not about community and workers. They are about profits and their bottom-line. Everything else is forfeit; the community, the environment, the lives of their workers, and the community be damned.

originally posted by: jacobe001
Fixed it for you
Records amounts of money going to politicians from deep pocket corporations and banks tells us all who the government works for

We still vote them in...lol

a reply to: jacobe001

Agreed. You should do a thread.

People often try to define the NWO in cultural terms but it's always been more about consolidating business interests and natural resources (that includes people too - human resources - and so there is the confusion about culture) to the benefit of a select few mega corporations (and the super elite that control them) by using government to facilitate it. They are only interested in actual culture to the extent that they can profit from it. For instance Christmas or any other religious or manufactured holiday. Read President's Day. LoL! Even family values, such as Campbell's or Honey Maid marketing minority or same sex families. Corporations really do not give a damn about that, only dollars.

An interesting exercise, for anyone willing to do the research, is the absolute inbreeding that exists on corporate boards of directors. It's mostly all the same 100 - 200 people and/or their heirs or relatives. Then compare that to political donors or super pacs. It's not Democracy, it's a Plutocracy. Or an Oligarchy. And it's not Capitalism, it's corporate Fascism.

a reply to: Aazadan

Hey now I try to stick to government data in order to not rock the boat. Usually people debating against me will refute my data source except if it is government, then it is fact lol.

I am aware of shadowstats and other measures.

shadowstats also shows something is very wrong with employment that government numbers do not show. but I try to stick to government U3, U6, and Labor participation rate for sake of argument.

originally posted by: DexterRiley
a reply to: jacobe001

So the Chinese, in an effort to transition their economy to be consumer based, are destroying an ancient culture and way of life. They are forcefully displacing these peasant farmers and taking their property to either bulldoze into parking lots or give to larger farming collectives. I can't even imagine the anguish these people are feeling about having to completely change everything they know.

Worst of all, like a naive North Korean trusting in their great leaders, I talked to a Chinese Business Man that said I should not complain because we are so spoiled in America. Human Rights and Freedoms for Citizens and Workers alike are so wrong according to him

It further reinforces the idea I have had where those after profits will sacrifice their humanity to others if there is money to be made.

originally posted by: DexterRiley
a reply to: jacobe001


There is simply NO WAY to compete with those slave wages.

-dex

Yep, that is where they want us.
In China, workers have no rights and at last census, make on average about a dollar an hour.
That is why cutting taxes is a smoke screen.
We can cut taxes to 0, or even pay Corporations money and it still will not be enough to match that.

They want slaves to serve them.

While slaves were mistreated and beaten in old times, they were clothed, fed and housed in old times, hence they had a living wage.
Now asking for a living wage today is crime.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

There is no incentive to become skilled in any arena anymore, as long as someone else if cutting your pay check. People need to get back to basics and only buy from local Mom and Pop businesses. That is the only way they are going to have a thriving community. Big business is not about community and workers. They are about profits and their bottom-line. Everything else is forfeit; the community, the environment, the lives of their workers, and the community be damned.

When Big Business took over our government and got bigger and distant from their communities, this is what was bound to happen. Local Business in bedded within the communities is always better. The management and workers sleep in the same town and if they take a crap in their town, management and workers feel it.

Now you have power hungry Goliath's that have their offices in one city and their work houses in another city and more offices in DC for their lobbyists.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: ArchangelUriel

There is no choice. Either make it work where you are, or go broke with honour.

It is better to die penniless, than live without honour.

You are right of course and it's silly to say I'm sick of fighting a losing battle when the fight hasn't even begun yet, not really. The darkest hour is just before the dawn. There is a lot more to life than money and your personal wealth. Death before dishonor.

Make automated factories, then people will complain losing their jobs to "robots".....

Then we'll also wake up to the fact how broken capitalism is. Time to change to a new system.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
Ha. A little better retribution. Just thought I'd post the video again. Except instead of 3,000 views, this one has over 2.4 MILLION views:

In addition, the story made it to Drudge Report. Suffice it to say that Carrier is going to get a lot of very unsavory phone calls. I'd say critical mass was achieved.

But will even that be any deterrence to the greedy? I doubt it.

I am doing my part as well in spreading the word across the internet and among friends
Globalists that support Carrier and policies like the TPP must hate the fact of Free People being able to spread the word around.

a reply to: johndeere2020

But I worship capitalism as my God. It's my religion.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: jacobe001

Agreed. You should do a thread.

People often try to define the NWO in cultural terms but it's always been more about consolidating business interests and natural resources (that includes people too - human resources - and so there is the confusion about culture) to the benefit of a select few mega corporations (and the super elite that control them) by using government to facilitate it.

Thanks Kosmic
I don't subscribe to any political party because both of the major ones have sold out to Globalist Interests over the best interests of this country in accordance with the Constitution. Under the roof of the Bildergergs and CFR Meetings, lie not Democrats and Republicans or Americans and Mexicans but the top wealthy power hungry Top Corporate Head and Banking
Head Globalists along with their bought and paid for politicians.

That is the order of things today - 1) Deep Pockets Purchase Puppets 2) Puppets get paraded before the gullible Masses via the Corporate Media 3) Gullible Masses choose Corporate Puppets

The top donors for the last election between Obama and Romney were the too big to fail banks

I'll make a thread on my ideas in the next couple days

a reply to: TrueAmerican

They always propagandize it as "a difficult decision" but it isnt, its all about more money for upper management and throwing loyal employees under the bus. its GREED plain and simple. I am really starting to think that 99 percent of CEOs are total sociopaths, just soulless shells that look like human beings as they all exhibit TOTAL moral blindness. This is happening ALL over the place and no one is doing anything to stop it. Hopefully if word gets out people will boycott them. We need to financially divest investment from or boycott EVERY American company that is selling out its workers like this.

Talk about the NWO you have to understand the MAJOR think tanks.

For decades they’ve been initiating austerity based on the CLUB OF ROME think tanks conclusions years ago through something called Limits to Growth.

That’s limits on US, not them, the super rich


I know the CLUB OF ROME well
As a user called CUB OF ROME I helped bring down their forum years ago

That’s right MF’S I’m still here
COME AND GET ME!
But watch yourself


www.clubofrome.org...