Turkey shot down Russian Jet: reportedly by two F16's

Another hostage situation in France.

originally posted by: Jobeycool
Another hostage situation in France.

Probably suited to another thread mate.

Terrible news though.

a reply to: Xcathdra

well you were seeming to say that the cruiser being off the coast of turkey was not any kind of threat? just saying shes not toothless for being as old as he is (Russian ships are male right?)

This was dated OCT 6th

A war of words has broken out between Russia and Nato over Moscow’s military intervention in Syria and its violation of Turkish airspace.

The row threatens to further escalate tensions over Moscow’s airstrikes to support the regime of Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad. The Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, said his country could not endure Russian violations of its airspace in its campaign in Syria and said Russia risked “losing” Turkey.

“Nato has issued a stern ultimatum,” Erdoğan was quoted as saying at a press conference in Brussels by local media. “We cannot endure it. Some steps that we do not desire are being taken. It is not suitable for Turkey to accept them. This is also beyond the principles of Nato.”

Nato’s secretary-general, Jens Stoltenberg, had said earlier on Tuesday that the Russian incursions into Turkish airspace did not appear to be an accident, because the incursions had happened twice and lasted for a long time. On Monday, Turkey’s foreign ministry said the country had scrambled its fighter jets following a Russian plane’s incursion into its airspace. Separately, the armed forces said a Mig fighter plane had harassed a Turkish squadron of F-16s patrolling the border with Syria, locking its radar on the Turkish warplanes.

www.theguardian.com...


So Russia already knew it was risking being shot down if it violated Turkey's airspace AGAIN.
That is a Putin mess up.

originally posted by: angryhulk

originally posted by: Jobeycool
Another hostage situation in France.

Probably suited to another thread mate.

Terrible news though.

I will not put anymore about it in this thread,sorry.Definetly is real.

I am sure its already posted, but I was off for some time and this maybe a repentance, Putin gave command to evacuate and shut down the Russian embassy in turkey - earlier he called all Russian citizens to abandon turkey.

Also, Pavel E. Felgenhauer reported earlier that what happened today cannot stay unanswered. But they have to be very precise and without rushed emotional moves.

At the same time turkey gave an ultimatum/telegraph to Russia, that anything that they feel its a threat for their interests, will be taken down... They admit that it was in Syrian borders, near to turkish *4 miles.

And now the latest news is, Russia prepares a series of measures against turkey. And lets not forget that turkey almost a year ago, signed up deals for lots of agricultural products, plus Russian gas. Now all these deals are dead and more than 100 billion damage.

Lets wait and see. As I said earlier, Putin officially accuses turkey for helping the terrorists and also aid them inside turkey. Its one step before the UN51.

a reply to: SBargisen

What are you talking about? you don't know anything....

Turkey says they shot down a plane that violated its airspace 10 times with 10 warning. They also said if the plane bombed anything in that area they would be killing Turkman.

Russia is just denying they were in their airspace

Either way Russia should be more careful flying warplanes in Turkish areas because well.... they'll get shot down

a reply to: RalagaNarHallas

Its not a threat.. Russian roe's are the same as turkeys. Unless russia violates turkish waters its not a threat. Russia using nukes invites nukes to be used on them. Putin is a moron but I dont think he is that stupid. Russia would not survive. No one would.

Someone mentioned there are 3.5 million Turkmen in Syria fighting against Assad.

This is a blank check to Russians to avenge today's events.

RuAF should increase the bombing intensity on these factions by atleast 50%. Will Turki cross the airspace to come to defend these "degenerates" from getting bombed?

originally posted by: derfreebie
Dark agencies running this folly could make Fukishima
look downright petty and really soon unless the US backs off.

The problem is, they won't back off ... the US/Britain are like ISIS. They're convinced of their own divinity, and will never back off ... until the SHTF.

Let's play this scenario out ... let's say Russia backs off. After all, Putin is a decent guy ... he's not going to make a big deal out of it. He's just playing "Saddam Hussein", and he'll end like Saddam Hussein ... 13 years of sanctions, ain't gonna do it. Murdering him, and his entire family will do for starters ... getting me?

So, Russia backs off now ... then NATO goes on in Ukraine, and Russia has to back off there too. After all, they're out of electricity (Which proves how trusting the Russians are, they should have seen this coming).

You think NATO will stop there? ... no, they won't. Eventually Russia is going to fall to inner conflict, with Nukes going off inside Russia killing Russians, and a lot of Europe ... but the US will win.

But, they won't stop there ... because eventually they're going to start with China, N.Korea, Iran and not necessarily in that order.

a reply to: victor7

I think turkey would go after the russian degenerates who claim to be there fighting isis who are doing anything but that. Assad can slaughter his own people.. He doesnt need russian support for it.

originally posted by: angryhulk

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: angryhulk


Yes, Syrian Turkmen Rebels. The same ones that were shooting the pilots as they floated down from the sky.

Let me ask you , if pilot bombs your family to death and then parachutes to nearby .
No cops to call , no military to ask for protection . What would you do to that pilot who has killed your mom , dad , babies , aunties , sisters ?
I would kill him straight up .
If you have not been bombed by a war plane , would you understand how it feels ?


I don't think they like each other.

Russians support ASAD regime which has been killing Turkmens for faaaar too long . You are right , Turkmens don't like the Russians .


'Innocent' Turkmens, haha. Whilst they parade the streets with guns and anti-tank missiles waiting for an opportunity, like Turkey dropping a jet out the sky.

There are 3.5 million Turkmens in Syria and they are non ISIS . Everyone who needs to know this fact already does know this fact .
Except you .

You are a member citizen of a NATO country ; wake up , your kilt has been eyed upon by a hungry polar bear.

Well, right now Russia is carpet bombing Syria so if they don't want to be directly affected I suggest they leave, basically.

You want more refugees for Europe ?

Why didn't you say so !!!

You want Russians to defeat NATO and you also want more middle easteners arriving in EU .

Why ?

Why would you want this outcome ?

You think Russians are going to do some noble sh1te ?

They are there to get a say in how you heat your home in winter .

If they say you freeze this winter , you will freeze that winter .

You want this outcome ?

How much did ISIS attacks scared you ?

You got to be taking the mickey , you want to get into bed with a hungry bear , you will get hurt .

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: SBargisen

What are you talking about? you don't know anything....

Turkey says they shot down a plane that violated its airspace 10 times with 10 warning. They also said if the plane bombed anything in that area they would be killing Turkman.

Russia is just denying they were in their airspace

Either way Russia should be more careful flying warplanes in Turkish areas because well.... they'll get shot down

No no, they violated the airspace only once, for a few seconds.

a reply to: bjarneorn

What?

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: angryhulk

originally posted by: 23432

originally posted by: angryhulk


Yes, Syrian Turkmen Rebels. The same ones that were shooting the pilots as they floated down from the sky.

Let me ask you , if pilot bombs your family to death and then parachutes to nearby .
No cops to call , no military to ask for protection . What would you do to that pilot who has killed your mom , dad , babies , aunties , sisters ?
I would kill him straight up .
If you have not been bombed by a war plane , would you understand how it feels ?


I don't think they like each other.

Russians support ASAD regime which has been killing Turkmens for faaaar too long . You are right , Turkmens don't like the Russians .


'Innocent' Turkmens, haha. Whilst they parade the streets with guns and anti-tank missiles waiting for an opportunity, like Turkey dropping a jet out the sky.

There are 3.5 million Turkmens in Syria and they are non ISIS . Everyone who needs to know this fact already does know this fact .
Except you .

You are a member citizen of a NATO country ; wake up , your kilt has been eyed upon by a hungry polar bear.

Well, right now Russia is carpet bombing Syria so if they don't want to be directly affected I suggest they leave, basically.

You want more refugees for Europe ?

Why didn't you say so !!!

You want Russians to defeat NATO and you also want more middle easteners arriving in EU .

Why ?

Why would you want this outcome ?

You think Russians are going to do some noble sh1te ?

They are there to get a say in how you heat your home in winter .

If they say you freeze this winter , you will freeze that winter .

You want this outcome ?

How much did ISIS attacks scared you ?

You got to be taking the mickey , you want to get into bed with a hungry bear , you will get hurt .

What?

a reply to: bjarneorn

China.... N. Korea... Iran...

3 perfectly lovely countries who murder their own citizens... Stellar company russia keeps..

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: stormbringer1701

the incursion could in no way be interpretted as an attack.

But it was an incursion, and Russia was warned. You know the story of the camel that stuck its nose in the the tent? I'm pretty sure both the Turks and the Russians have the same story.

I am not exactly fond of Russia at the moment. I especially don't like thier sudden infatuation with genocidal high megaton yield radioactive cobalt bombs or their invading former vassal states but i have seen the radar tracks. The plane crossed a turkish territorial prominence into syrian territory like florida pokes into the atlantic ocean but much tinier than that. the flight path was generally parallel to the border and the missile hit the plane after it had cleared turkish territory. the path could have been required to service targets near the border. the path generally suggests overall respect for turkish territory though it is possible that it was an attempt to tweak the turks. The path does not seem to especially support that though. also the turkish finger of land in question was once syrian territory. it was annexed by turkey in the late 1930's i think.

Russia is sending destroyer to Syria Coast,article says they are ordered to attack anything that is posing danger.www.rt.com...

a reply to: angryhulk

You are ignoring the violations and turkish warnings from october.

a reply to: bjarneorn

Russia Ramps Up Offensive Group in North Crimea; Brings Tanks, Grads to Border

www.interpretermag.com...

A little thread drift just because you mentioned electricity in Crimea.

I was thinking last few days that Russia might start a new offensive in Ukraine soon and guess what, Kiev has given them all the reasons to do so.

Russian-Backed Forces Blasting 'From All Directions' in Ukraine: ATO