Transgender woman Vicky Thompson, 21, found dead in all male prison.

Oh FFS.

All these pages later and a few less-than-bright posters still don't get it. Let me outline this more clearly, and I'll do it as a straight female as bluntly as possible:

My vagina does not make me female, who I am inside/mentally/at heart/the soul/etc makes me female. Does your dong & pair make YOU solidly male? Yes? Ask yourself why that is the only qualifier.
Now mentally remove genitals from the picture. Every trace of them, completely. If you would still feel male or female without them, all it proves is that your most basic concept of yourself is male or female. As with chromosomes, the physical aspect is an aside, if that's too difficult to grasp.

The fact that this has to be spelled out for people proves people that argue about what makes someone one gender or another have a lot to learn, and aren't quite as smart about the subject as they think. It's not black & white, never has been & never will be.

originally posted by: TheBulk
a reply to: Revolution9

The headline should be, "man who thinks hes a woman"

EXACTLY, these people are NOT transgendered in any way but inside their own minds, to ANYONE they cannot see this, and should not be subjected to this ridiculous assertion that they are somehow transgender.

It is really quite weird that people accepted this notion so fast, much like the belief that ISIS existed 15 years ago.

An insult to the REAL transgendered people.

These people who think like this are definitely different, but no one can say that they are the opposite to the sex and biology they have, they could be wired wrong, or are something entirely different, but to WANT people to believe they are the exact same as the OTHER sex, you know the ones completely different to them, is well INSANE.

a reply to: Nyiah

YOUR SOUL HUH.

Now you are getting into an area that science wants nothing to do with.

And after some serious discovery in the areas of where we come from, what we are, I can tell you that MALE-FEMALE, YING-YANG and all the BS designed to make us believe we are one or the other, is entirely NOT TRUE.

Try and believe something, that you may not be either male OR female,, but you likely will not , cause your entire experience is being affected by all the programming, here AND THERE.... and everywhere else too !!

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Freija

It's seriously frustrating. I post science and studies backing up what I'm saying, but somehow all that is trumped by just saying that science says otherwise... Modern science AGREES with gender dysporia AND it agrees that the best treatment is to let the person change their gender. THUS modern science has altered its definition of gender (because that is what science does when it recognizes that it was wrong) to account for this.

Science is swayed back and forth according to whatever flavor it loves or is commanded to do.

I think they would be better off assigning OTHER genders, because these people are clearly not the same.....

Modern science , lol , changing the definitions of facts, this is all they do.

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: NihilistSanta

If it was a Trans Woman i would say Woman ,a Trans Man a Man.. it's really not that hard of a concept

Are you capable of identifying a person such as this on the street ??

Or do you need to be told first,

Maybe you are ultra telepathic and can detect the myriad of signals.

What in the world makes you think these conditions are normal, and why not push for a whole new classification of person, because we CANNOT just take these people at their word, it is too bizarre and likely it is not perfectly true in ANY CASE.

originally posted by: ParasuvO
An insult to the REAL transgendered people.

Who/what the hell are "REAL transgendered people?

Humor me.

just to add, this individual was already in the protective wing of that prison as sourced in the article i posted a page ago. but even the rapists and diddlers were too much to handle.

based on what i have read of the events, this young person would likely have opted out even in a womans protective ward. the dude was a spineless coward that felt big and bad enough to harass and accost a young girl and ROB her of her property as well as stole from a local business. then when given only a year of probation, the bastard has the audacity to violate by doing more crime.

this was a two time loser thug who had a cross dressing fetish and liked to pick on young girls.

and to niyah, please please please, don't ever teach at any school up to high school. the american children of the next generation at least need a fighting chance to develope and learn before they are pummeled by frenzied zealots hell bent on destroying healthy families and relationships for the future.


and now a prayer to myself, in public.
Lord God Almighty Jesus Christ our saviour thou art in heaven. please forgive us these tresspasses and deliver us from evil and these wicked ways. i dont want innocent people in our lans to suffer the wrath brought upon by those who have been seperated from your wisdom and guidance and gain an incfeasing influence over the minds of our leaders in an effort to glamourize crime. criminals and bandits, they are praised and idol only to encourage and promote a cycle of violence and confusion for our children. help each and every generation of our kids to see these attacks on our minds, our thoughts, and the sanctity of our families so that they may develop free of wicked and self destructive ways.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

Oh gag me. So you jump right to talking to yourself -- I'm sorry, prayer.
There's a difference between one's gender & one's sex. One it external, the other is internal. Pull your head out of your ass already.

a reply to: Freija

The guy in your avatar would be a real transgendered person.

or is it just transgender?

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Freija

It's seriously frustrating. I post science and studies backing up what I'm saying, but somehow all that is trumped by just saying that science says otherwise... Modern science AGREES with gender dysporia AND it agrees that the best treatment is to let the person change their gender. THUS modern science has altered its definition of gender (because that is what science does when it recognizes that it was wrong) to account for this.

Science is swayed back and forth according to whatever flavor it loves or is commanded to do.

No it isn't. Science goes where the evidence takes it. People pretend like it is "commanded" or has a partisan slant, but that is pure BS.

I think they would be better off assigning OTHER genders, because these people are clearly not the same.....

Modern science , lol , changing the definitions of facts, this is all they do.

It's amazing you have such derision for science. You do know that you have science to thank for literally your ENTIRE life right? Not a one thing in your life wasn't invented or improved upon by science, yet here you are pretending like it is some silly hobby that shouldn't be taken seriously.

^ You should know better than to bring science in here if you are just going to jump to senseless conclusions not supported by the actual science. Speaking of science I am curious to know if this supposed natural phenomenon takes place in other species. Any brain scans been performed to see if say monkeys have female brains trapped in male bodies or vice versa? or is this just an elaborate societal construct? I mean apparently in another thread even if a trans male has sex with a male its not considered homosexual any longer. Seems the definitions are changing around society and not the science.

This thread gets funnier, more entertaining and ridiculous the longer it goes on. Too bad it was about somebody that died but that really doesn't matter because she was a fake impostor transgender person, a hardened criminal and a mentally ill menace to society so good riddance on that.

originally posted by: Poppcocked
The guy in your avatar would be a real transgendered person.

or is it just transgender?

Haha! Have a magic T detector do you? I gotta wonder, have you ever been laid or are you too suspicious the women you might meet may have been born with a male body? Have a few repressed issues of your own there maybe, eh?

At least you got something right. "Transgendered" is like saying gayed. I was just quoting our Watchman friend and know better. The whole notion that there are fake and real transgender people is extremely amusing. Could someone define the criteria for that? I'm genuinely curious and also want to know just how far the stupidity goes around here.

Praying to a sky god and denying that science is anything but made up stuff tells me a lot. I could say I feel sorry for you but not sorry. I do recognize your difficulty adapting to the world we live in though. Sucks to be you.

originally posted by: Freija
This thread gets funnier, more entertaining and ridiculous the longer it goes on. Too bad it was about somebody that died but that really doesn't matter because she was a fake impostor transgender person, a hardened criminal and a mentally ill menace to society so good riddance on that.

I am trying to get the context here, because I am almost certain you are not trying to have pity on a thug loser who assaulted and robbed a teenage girl and then took their own life upon realization they were not goon enough to answer to the consequences of these crimes.

So, because I can almost feel certain on that, my belief here is you are upset that we do not respect the criminals choice of description. I can say I am more than happy when a violent thug is removed from society, however that may be. Lord knows I have to be vigilante for such bandits in my neighborhood, but the rest of the people in a community where they are barely legally allowed to defend themselves don't have it so easy, and the youth are growing up with a very privileged criminal mindset in the streets.

I dont think we should consider how "they feel" about where they are going to answer for their crimes AT ALL when sentencing is imposed. That right was waived when they made someone else a victim of violence. End of story. At least the person was kept in a high risk ward.

a reply to: AmericanRealist

Keep in mind, she was incarcerated for violating probation not for her "heinous" crime. If she was such a "violent thug loser" and menace to society, they'd have locked her up when convicted.

Damn skippy it bothers me when a person's gender identification for someone that has lived their entire adult life as that gender isn't acknowledged or respected but it is nice to know that neighborhood vigilantes like yourself are out there keeping the childrens safe and all that.

Your lack of compassion and self-appointed vigilantism scares the crap out of me.

a reply to: Freija

I pray to a sky god?

which one dude?

Oh, and if you are so proud of yourself then why do you cover your adams apple with your hand?

a reply to: Poppcocked

Hey "dude", that wasn't directed at you. Read much? Your eloquent and well thought replies (drive by's) in thread are thought provoking and profound. About as mature as your signature line too.

I'm amused rather than annoyed. Keep up the quality contributions in this thread and we'll all learn something.

ETA: Get your glasses checked. What makes you think that's me anyway? Geez!

a reply to: Freija

so it's your boyfriend?

a reply to: Poppcocked

Think you're pretty funny, don't you? I have to admit, I laughed.

originally posted by: Poppcocked
a reply to: Freija

I pray to a sky god?

which one dude?

Oh, and if you are so proud of yourself then why do you cover your adams apple with your hand?

Why are you so obsessed personally with her just because she's speaking respectfully about transfolk? Were you dumped by a transgirl? And why do you assume that hot woman in her avatar is even her?

Are you really an ugly little bear? Or dog or whatever the heck that is in your avatar?

Jesus, get a grip and stop with the personal attacks via avatar insults. Doesn't even make sense...

a reply to: Freija

How am i being funny, that person in your avatar is a guy right? you asked waay up there "Who/what the hell are "REAL transgendered people? " I was just giving an answer..