Donald Trump: We Will Have a ‘Deportation Force’

originally posted by: randyvs

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: introvert

I wonder if it will be trains that will do the "deporting". And uniformed and armed Trumpsters going house to house looking for them. And they will have to wear emblems on the clothes for identification, and oh, the tattoo parlors will get a big boom. go trump

You don't have to look for them. Just point your finger in any direction.

...or go to your nearest Walmart.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Ok, suppose I do go to Wal-Mart. Can you tell me how to tell the difference between an illegal and legal immigrant just by looking at people in and near Wal-Marts?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Edumakated

I hope you know that doing this would likely destroy what little remains of our agricultural base in the country.

i.e. getting our lawns cut and landscaped.

a reply to: UnBreakable

So every goundsworker is an illegal immigrant then?

a reply to: anon72

Oh, come on ... this guy isn't PC, and that's a good thing.

I know you call him dumb, but look at G.W. Bush Jr. now there's a big I if you've seen one. Donald Duck, sorry I mean Trump, is a Trump above that guy. And way above that Obama bin Ladin guy.

But the Donald ain't gonna be working alone ... he's gonna have an army of people around him, who fwill mill his ideas into something workable.

1. A deportation Force, Sir
2. Yes God damn it, I said deportation force ...
1. Ah, ok ... well , we could do it so that if people who get access like break the law or something, we deport them instead of putting them in j ail.
2. There, you see! you're a smart lad ... that's exactly what I was talking about!. Now, we're gonna build a wall ...
1. A wall, Sir!
2. Yes, goddamn it ... didn't you hear me .. A WALL!
1. A, yes sir ... ah ... ah ... oh ... ahh we could ah ... ah ... we could extend the fences into walls and have gates like in Germany in WWII?
2. What a smart lad, you just read my mind!

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: anon72

Stop acting like they should be afforded the same rights as legal US citizens.

They do have the same rights. The Constitution covers everyone in America whether they are a citizen or not.

Under the NDAA we could label them invaders legally and whoopsie there goes that.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: murphy22

You say this, but the numbers say otherwise.

U.S. deportations of immigrants reach record high in 2013

It's common knowledge that Obama has deported more illegals than any other President. He certainly beat's Bus h's numbers.

Yes its true about obamas numbers on deportations but it is a band aid and not a solution to the problem. All he has to do is enforce the current laws on the books but he hasn't has he! Obama has actively restricted states from policing the laws and took them to court over it remember Arizona. LOL the mexican president at the time called it racism yet he enforces his border laws the moron is a hypocrite of the highest order.

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: anon72
Their Due Process would have been offered (or whatever you want to use) IF THEY HAD PRPEPRLY APPLIED to come to the US

Stop acting like they should be afforded the same rights as legal US citizens.

Tell you what. Go and try sneaking into Mexico and report back how well you are treaded when caught.

The Declaration of Independence says that "All Men Are Created Equal".

ALL MEN. Not just citizens, but every person that has been born with the inalienable rights granted to them by their creator.

Therefore, ALL men are afforded rights whether they are a citizen of this country or not. IN that spirit we must maintain due process. That does not include creating a force to go hunt people down, incarcerate them and then do god knows what with them.

THIS ^^^

Call me nuts, if you like, but I do look forward to a One World Government, where human rights are extended equally to all human citizens of the earth. There still will be countries and patriotism, but people will be free to roam the earth at will, without concern for borders, and choose to live their lives and settle down how and where they see fit.

You think countries and patriotism will exist with no borders and peoples freedom to move around at will and do what they want ?

That is a very odd statement.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: anon72

Stop acting like they should be afforded the same rights as legal US citizens.

They do have the same rights. The Constitution covers everyone in America whether they are a citizen or not.

Under the NDAA we could label them invaders legally and whoopsie there goes that.

But do you want to become a nation no better than China or Russia?

You have a problem but do you want to sacrifice your souls to sort it? Or go for better ways like like blocking welfare and employment to immigrants making immigration pointless.



country to what image I may portray on ATS I rather like most Americans (its your government I take issue with), and it would sadden me to see the American people go down a dark path and sacrifice what makes them special.

I'll tell you why illegal immigration will never stop....

Americans want a 15.00 min. wage and Illegals will work for 7.50 under the table.

If you were a corporation seeking to maximize profits for the stock holders...who would you hire?

Who makes the laws, Congress that is under control of the Corporate machine.

www.uschamber.com...

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: queenofswords

There is an agenda going on at an organizational level and on a global level. Why? Who is behind it? The UN?

No...

It's the corporate Oligarchy that profits from cheap labor. It's the Capitalist essentially keeping profit and money in circulation...The bankers.

How are you going to address that power?

Trump is full of BS and he knows it. In fact he is part of the problem...how many illegals work in his casinos and other business ventures? plenty...

I'll believe him when he fires and deports his own hired help.

The naivety and ignorance of so many ATS members as to how the system works is truely astonishing!!

You're thinking too small. The Wall and the Deportation Force is for a coming storm of "refugees", "illegals", "asylum-seekers" (whatever you want to call them) on a level heretofore unseen. It is more than keeping job seekers out. We have always turned a blind eye to "legitimate illegals" (couldn't think of a better term to use).

This is for something much bigger and much more sinister.

a reply to: jobless1

How can you acknowledge that deportations are at an all time high then immediately say that Obama isn't following the laws? I'd say that the data says that Obama is following the laws more so than any other President before him in that regard.

Exactly what does it mean to you for Obama to enforce the laws on the books? What do you think that means he should be doing and what needs to happen in the country for you to recognize that it is being done? All the illegals are kicked out of the country? Because that is an unfeasible request, plus just because someone fails to get all the illegals out of the country doesn't mean they aren't enforcing the laws.

And you are right. It is a numbers problem. That is why, no matter how high the deportation rate a President has climbs, there will ALWAYS be an illegal immigration problem. It's too easy to slip through the cracks. This is the very reason that Trump's idiotic Deportation Force is going to fail (well he'll never be elected President so it's kind of a misnomer to say that it will fail since it'll never be implemented). No matter how many bodies he throws at the problem or how aggressive he gets with the policy, more illegals will STILL come over the board and be very hard to find.

originally posted by: ParasuvO

You think countries and patriotism will exist with no borders and peoples freedom to move around at will and do what they want ?

That is a very odd statement.

Give the guy a break, he hasn't read Orwell, nor seen the movie ... the poor thing is clueless.

Maybe it should be made obligatory, that people who want their masters ... should live in a remote Chinese village for a year or two ... maybe a little "Mao Tse Ding-Dong" lesson, would bring them up to speed. Maybe when they learn that there is such a thing as a passport, to be able to travel "inside" a country ... ah well, he'll probably think bringing down China will help that ... geesh :-)

We already have a "deportation force" and all the laws necessary already exist. The only thing we're missing a President and administration that would actually follow and enforce the existing laws using the existing govt resources.

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: windword

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: anon72
Their Due Process would have been offered (or whatever you want to use) IF THEY HAD PRPEPRLY APPLIED to come to the US

Stop acting like they should be afforded the same rights as legal US citizens.

Tell you what. Go and try sneaking into Mexico and report back how well you are treaded when caught.

The Declaration of Independence says that "All Men Are Created Equal".

ALL MEN. Not just citizens, but every person that has been born with the inalienable rights granted to them by their creator.

Therefore, ALL men are afforded rights whether they are a citizen of this country or not. IN that spirit we must maintain due process. That does not include creating a force to go hunt people down, incarcerate them and then do god knows what with them.

THIS ^^^

Call me nuts, if you like, but I do look forward to a One World Government, where human rights are extended equally to all human citizens of the earth. There still will be countries and patriotism, but people will be free to roam the earth at will, without concern for borders, and choose to live their lives and settle down how and where they see fit.

You think countries and patriotism will exist with no borders and peoples freedom to move around at will and do what they want ?

That is a very odd statement.

" There still will be countries and patriotism, but people will be free to roam the earth at will, without concern for borders, and choose to live their lives and settle down how and where they see fit."

Its not just odd..........its idiotic. How much "patriotism" do residents of a City feel toward their City? Today they feel some degree of Patriotism to their country, but when the country becomes no more important as a governmental unit than a City does to a Nation, I don't think there's going to be much residual patriotism, which of course is the whole idea. No one's going to sign up to do military service with the nation's army when the nation is held hostage to a One World Government. So.....thee won't be any wars. There'll just be thugs in United Nations Blue Helmets breaking into peoples homes to steal their firearms, rape their women and steal their children.

What crock!

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: queenofswords

There is an agenda going on at an organizational level and on a global level. Why? Who is behind it? The UN?

No...

It's the corporate Oligarchy that profits from cheap labor. It's the Capitalist essentially keeping profit and money in circulation...The bankers.

How are you going to address that power?

Trump is full of BS and he knows it. In fact he is part of the problem...how many illegals work in his casinos and other business ventures? plenty...

I'll believe him when he fires and deports his own hired help.

The naivety and ignorance of so many ATS members as to how the system works is truely astonishing!!

You're thinking too small. The Wall and the Deportation Force is for a coming storm of "refugees", "illegals", "asylum-seekers" (whatever you want to call them) on a level heretofore unseen. It is more than keeping job seekers out. We have always turned a blind eye to "legitimate illegals" (couldn't think of a better term to use).

This is for something much bigger and much more sinister.

Got it....

The Skull and Bones/Bohemian Grove/Georiga Guide Stones/Jesuit Cabal/neocon Zionist/ NWO take over?

That is Sinister!

originally posted by: jjkenobi
We already have a "deportation force" and all the laws necessary already exist. The only thing we're missing a President and administration that would actually follow and enforce the existing laws using the existing govt resources.

I asked someone else this, but I'm really curious. How can Obama's deportation numbers be at an all time high but he isn't following the laws on the books?

Does that mean that Bush and other conservative Presidents that came before him didn't follow the laws either since their deportation numbers were much lower?

What's ICE? Chopped liver?

But hey, why stop there. How about...

Debt Collection Force
Home Eviction Force
Tax Evasion Force
Parking Ticket Force?

What a dolt.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: jobless1

How can you acknowledge that deportations are at an all time high then immediately say that Obama isn't following the laws? I'd say that the data says that Obama is following the laws more so than any other President before him in that regard.

Exactly what does it mean to you for Obama to enforce the laws on the books? What do you think that means he should be doing and what needs to happen in the country for you to recognize that it is being done? All the illegals are kicked out of the country? Because that is an unfeasible request, plus just because someone fails to get all the illegals out of the country doesn't mean they aren't enforcing the laws.

And you are right. It is a numbers problem. That is why, no matter how high the deportation rate a President has climbs, there will ALWAYS be an illegal immigration problem. It's too easy to slip through the cracks. This is the very reason that Trump's idiotic Deportation Force is going to fail (well he'll never be elected President so it's kind of a misnomer to say that it will fail since it'll never be implemented). No matter how many bodies he throws at the problem or how aggressive he gets with the policy, more illegals will STILL come over the board and be very hard to find.

What you say is quite correct, but come on.....we all (or at least I thought "all") know Trump's just playing to his middle-aged to senior-aged conservative white base. Even if Trump were elected, nothing would change; his Corporate minders would twist his arm to keep the borders open. Its all a load of show.

As far as I'm concerned the only Presidential candidate that's actually made a true statement is Fiorina when she said, to the effect, that we have these elections, promises are made, people are elected and nothing changes because the people elected are all part of the "Political Class" which has no interest whatsoever in the rest of the US. I wouldn't vote for Fiorina......I won't vote for any of these #sshats, but she did speak the truth there.

a reply to: TonyS

I agree Trump certainly is playing to a specific demographic of voter (the uninformed and angry one) and nothing he is proposing will end up going into effect or changing anything.