Muslim Invasion of Europe

My unfiltered thoughts on this:

- Its wanted that Europe gets destabilized
- Politicians are either stupid or controlled by blackmail to achieve this (Informations gathered by intelligence)
- When the temperatures are getting colder all hell will break loose. (many people still live in tents)
- Europe and other parts of the world will be islamized in the next decades (higher birth rates)
- The era of science and religous freedom will be over

Have a nice weekend

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: anxiouswens

- The treck to Germany or Sweden is long and hazardous, and as soon as they are accepted refugees, their families can come in on much safer ways.

So you just admitted that this will directly lead to another wave of immigration at least 3 or 4 times the size of this one?

a reply to: ManFromEurope

Try reading news from gatestone institute, atlas shrugs, news 24, Jihad watch, plus others, I agree with the guy who started this thread, Germans are being sued by immigrants for not prepossessing them quick enough, In Malmo, Sweden, women cannot go out alone after dark, the incident of rape and robbery in Sweden has gone through the roof, read this far? read the daily updates from the above news blogs.

originally posted by: anxiouswens
What I have noticed on the whole on this subject is that the people on ATS who seem not able to see how dangerous this is (and this is a generalised view) seem mainly to be from Countries such as Canada. Maybe a reason for this is because as I have just seen on another post Canada have much stricter rules when it comes to taking in refugees/asylum seekers. Also what people from all non-EU Countries seem to forget is that a big pull factor in Europe and the UK is the welfare system. For instance in the UK we have a NHS so health care is free of charge. Obviously anyone going to America wouldn't be able to get health care like this. There are the numerous benefits immigrants are allowed to claim as well, even if they are illegal, as shown in my other post.

There is also something fundamentally wrong with our Laws. Just recently there has been the case of the Libyan cadets who came to the UK and were charged rape and are now seeking asylum in our Country and are being funded to bring a case against the Government, then people wonder why British people like myself are so angry.

Born and raised in Canada, aside from isolated singular events reported in our news, and as my perception of current events on the local level here we/I haven't see that much of a danger regarding Islam or Muslims.

You are probably correct though that as per our strict immigration/refugee laws, as well as our isolation across the Atlantic, and finally the exaggerated errr...and sometimes true nature of our frigid climate; has insulated us against the inflow of what is happening in Europe right now(Who wants to live in an igloo, right ???? ) Perhaps that has made some of us naive, not many though, not myself.

Supposedly Canada's claim to fame is a successful Multi-Cultural society....personally IMHO in some ways it's true, in other ways a complete lie. Either way our new just elected Liberal government is looking to loosen some of these immigration restrictions, it has me a tad worried. I do have some hope though as it still is the Federal government looking after it and I'm sure there is still so much red tape, bureaucracy, and ineptitude that in effect our policies remain the same.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Wasnt some of this supposedly predicted by Nostradamus ?

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His predictions are meant to serve as warnings..we are supposed to take action and stop these dangerous influx before it gets worse..people need to mobilize and shut down the transportation systems in opposition to what is occurring there..

I remember when the war against Iraq was just beginning and was being decided on.. MILLIONS of people closed the city centers and capitals of Europe in opposition, making their voices known and heard..why can't do they it again?

Rome, Madrid, London, Paris Berlin..I think that was back in 2002 just after the 9/11 events and everyone was mobilizing: I think I remember Resolution 1442, and during that time Indymedia.org was still up and running- that website was eventually closed down by authorities if i am not mistaken.. In any case, on the refugee influx issue, I cannot believe people arem't taking sufficient action.. Mobilize people!! Why not take the same action now?? Everyone should close down the capitals and make their statement about this horrible refugee nightmare...



At least Putin seems to be on Europe's side..
MOBILIZE! MOBILIZE! MOBILIZE!

a reply to: anxiouswens

they would be suicidal to come to texas

originally posted by: anxiouswens

Also what people from all non-EU Countries seem to forget is that a big pull factor in Europe and the UK is the welfare system. For instance in the UK we have a NHS so health care is free of charge. Obviously anyone going to America wouldn't be able to get health care like this. There are the numerous benefits immigrants are allowed to claim as well, even if they are illegal, as shown in my other post.

Not to mention that they can also 'apparently' claim for numbers of

children who don't even reside in the UK. I say 'apparently'

because how are they even able to prove the existence or number of

children that they are claiming for

a reply to: tony9802

Mobilize people!! Why not take the same action now?

Because they don't want to. The more I read the more I realize many of those countries don't object to the mass migrations as much as the U.S. does. If they did they would stop it.

originally posted by: ratsinacage


Another thing. I like so called "mono culture". These dummies that say we need to get rid of it are anti human. Humans have ALWAYS congregated among similar humans and formed somewhat uniform communities. This is not bad. Mono culture is the reason why we travel to foreign countries where they do things DIFFERENTLY and are different.....because thats exciting, thats interesting.

Precisely we seek out new experiences .... not have them forced on us

If i go to Sweden its because i want to experience things that are uniquely and more importantly UNIFORMALLY Swedish. Thats because those things are what makes Sweden what it is. Once you start diluting a culture and even worse, making the people of that culture feel guilty for their identity you have SUBJUGATED them.....you have conquered them.


If i want diversity ill go to a DIFFERENT country to visit orrrrrrrr....even to live there! And when i go to that country to live there......guess what.....i will live the WAY those people live.......because why would i want to destroy or in any way dilute the very things which made me want to live there or attracted me to visit?

When people refuse to integrate they prove what they really are and what they are really about.

Couldn't agree with you more in that respect, one ceases to enjoy

a treat when it becomes an every day normality.

It always amuses me when you see them in their traditional garb (both

the men and women) and the children are in western wear of jeans short

dresses etc.

originally posted by: tony9802

I remember when the war against Iraq was just beginning and was being decided on.. MILLIONS of people closed the city centers and capitals of Europe in opposition, making their voices known and heard..why can't do they it again?

Because the former was to stop our politicians wasting billions entering an illegal war. Why would we protest against giving civilians fleeing warzones a safe haven? It makes no sense, at best all it would achieve is creating further divides and fear between communities as it creates a massive barrier to integration.

a reply to: anxiouswens

The problem with stuff like this from the Gatestone institute is not it's blatant bias but it's huge wrongness.

No-go areas? Even Fox News admitted there are no no-go areas.

Criticism of Islam a crime? Everyone from Richard Dawkins to Britain First and UKIP critcise Islam loudly in public in the UK. There are similar voices all over the continent. When they cross the line into incitement, that's a crime, yes. Simple criticism, no matter how loud or how irrational is not.

The fact is Angela Merkel is more popular than ever because of her pro-refugee policies. Even second division leaders like David Cameron have their political nuts squeezed by public support for the refugees. Sure, a very loud minority is against them but, then again, see the criticism of Islam above.

It's best not to rely too much on partisan op-ed sites and blogs. It's not hard to find out for yourself.

Merkel more popular than ever? Really.

Merkel Approval Rating Drops to Four-Year Low

The share of Germans who are satisfied with Merkel’s handling of her job fell 9 percentage points to 54 percent in the Infratest Dimap poll, the lowest since December 2011, broadcaster ARD said in a statement Friday. Backing for Horst Seehofer, the Bavarian state premier who has called Merkel’s refugee policy a “mistake,” gained 11 points to 39 percent.

www.bloomberg.com...

Merkel's popularity slides to four-year low

www.reuters.com...

a reply to: anxiouswens

The answer is simple; but it will take political will and bravery by Europe's governments.

Let's call it The Mecca Project.

It's seems very obvious to everyone that muslims in general do not want to integrate into European/Western society, so another solution is needed.

Back in 1948 there was another group of people who no longer wished to stay in Europe (albeit for very different reasons), and a similar solution was suggested, and ultimately, acted upon.

There are regions on the planet that are very sparsley populated; places where large groups of people (millions..) could be relocated to, that would not adversely affect other cultures. Places where muslims could set up ther own society and run their own affairs without mixing with the world in general. Western governments would only need to take a small portion of their immigration budgets, say 1 years worth, and pool the money together to create a fund that could help the muslims set up this colony.

An ideal region would be the Namib desert region in coastal Africa. The land could be purchased by Western powers and allocated for the pupose. Desalination plants would be set up on the coast for water, building materials delivered, along with food for a year, and equipment for agrarian development. The Jewish people turned Israel from a desert into an agrarian oasis, so surely muslims are capable of the same, are they not?

All registered/unregistered muslims in the West could simply be taken to ports in their current host countries and placed on cruise ships/cargo ships hired by Western governments for the said purpose. Then they would be shipped to the new location and unloaded into their new home. Military escorts would probably be needed to ensure this was done in an orderly and lawful fashion.

After a year or so of funding and help from Western governments, the new muslim homeland would be left to fend for itself. Hopefully in a few hundred years or so, these people would have advanced to the degree that they may even be able to mix with modern Western cultures again. But in the meantime, I would think it wise to ban all muslim immigration to Western countries until such a time as muslims can prove themselves capable and civilised enough to merit such privelleges.

This seems to me the only civilized and logical way to deal with a group of people who simply do not seem willing to accept other cultures or integrate into the societies that have so generously given them the precious opportunity to do so. Maybe an idea along these lines should be openly debated in the EU now, before it becomes too late to act in a safe and amicable manner.

Perhaps people should start suggestng something along these lines to their elected officials in the West right now?

a reply to: boymonkey74

So they bail out, and leave their women and children for the wolves, i have thought every possible situation, and leaving your family behind, will never be the best solution.
Do you think they will leave the families in peace when the men leave the country?

They take the women and children, and sell them to the highest bidder. so the plan kinda backfires, no?

(Edit, last time when my country fought Russia, we sent the elderly and children first to safety.)

a reply to: jimbo999

You do realize you're describing "ethnic cleansing", right?

Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.

Ethnic cleansing is usually classified as a "war crime" and a "crime against humanity".

Also, there are more than 40 Muslim majority countries in the world, including 3 in Europe (4 if you count Turkey, which is in both Europe & Asia). Now let's look at how many of those countries have been attacked by the West & Israel just in the last 15 years (these are just off the top of my head): Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Mali, Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, and Yemen.

Then you have these Muslim majority countries with brutal governments that are supported by the West: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and Egypt (more than 1,000 protesters were killed when the current President's coup took out the elected leader Morsi). Then add in the western puppet governments of Jordan, Kuwait, Djibouti, and the UAE; plus there's the country with the second largest military in NATO, Turkey.

In other words, maybe Muslims in Muslim-majority countries wouldn't feel the need to leave their countries if the West would stop meddling in their countries. If you notice, I didn't even mention Iran, which the West has destabilized since the UK & CIA overthrew their leader in the 1950s. It's like if me & my friends destroyed your neighborhood while arming & financing the local gangs & cartels that terrorize your neighborhoods. But then I act shocked when the people in your community try to come to my neighborhood, which is one of the few safe places left.

WOOOW. Look at those numbers people. Muslims are TAKING OVER. Run for your lives. What a load of propaganda BS . How the # can a such small minority conquer anything ? ATS - embrace ignorance

originally posted by: solve
a reply to: boymonkey74

So they bail out, and leave their women and children for the wolves, i have thought every possible situation, and leaving your family behind, will never be the best solution.
Do you think they will leave the families in peace when the men leave the country?

They take the women and children, and sell them to the highest bidder. so the plan kinda backfires, no?

That's not a good representation of what's happening. Families are much closer in most Islamic communities. Adults living with their parents & grandparents is incredibly common; and their entire communities may be their extended families. So when males leave to go to foreign lands, it's usually a calculated decision.

If they're traveling legally, the size of the party may depend on the desired nation's immigration policies. The requirements are vastly different for getting a work visa, seeking asylum, or actually trying to become a citizen of the new country.

Also, it wouldn't make sense to uproot your entire family if the new nation doesn't have favorable conditions. So it's better to send a healthy male with good prospects for success, then wait & see if he can establish himself. If he can, he'll either send money back home (as remittances), he'll send for his family to join him, or he'll build up his credentials & wealth before returning home. And the wages in many of those countries is much lower, hence why they can only afford to send a few people at a time. So usually, that responsibility falls on the males.

If they're traveling illegally, it's even riskier. They know that the human trafficking system preys on women, so the women are usually deterred from the riskier options (but not always). Of course, women can be just as determined to create a better life for themselves as males, so many women are still going to try it. Just think of it like this: if you could only afford to send one person to a potentially lucrative job in Dubai or China, would you send a daughter or a son? (especially if you knew that country had strong anti-immigrant sentiments & the "traveling agencies" might be shady dealers)

a reply to: anxiouswens



Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.

"If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

originally posted by: anxiouswens
www.gatestoneinstitute.org...-qAmqgg.facebook

I have just come across this article and it pulls together all the different fears that a lot have been speaking about here on ATS. Before the normal name calling starts one thing that stood out in the article was this:

"Any criticism of Islam in Europe is treated as a form of racism, and "Islamophobia" is considered a crime or a sign of mental illness".

It also says about the no-go zones as discussed on a separate thread:

"Illegal Muslim migrants are likely to join the Muslims already living in Europe; and they will remain Muslim. They will live on social benefits until the bankruptcy of welfare states. They will reside in the "no-go zones," and the "no-go zones" will continue to grow. Their occupants come from countries where Christians and women are mistreated; in Europe, they are already mistreating Christians and women".

Also discussed is the fact that a lot aren't coming from Syria:

"Journalists in Western Europe continue to depict them as "refugees" fleeing war in Syria. The description is false. According to statistics released by the European Union, only twenty-five percent of them come from Syria; the true number is probably lower. The Syrian government sells passports and birth certificates at affordable prices. The vast majority of migrants come from other countries: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Eritrea, Somalia, and Nigeria.

Many do not seem to have left in a hurry. Many bring new high-end smartphones and large sums of cash, ten or twenty thousand euros, sometimes more. Many have no passports, no ID, and refuse to give fingerprints.

Whenever people flee to survive, the men come with whole families: women, children, elders. Here, instead, more than 75% of those who arrive are men under 50; few are women, children or elders."

And, finally, the one thing that really concerns me and people I speak to namely:

"Many of those who arrive, according to European intelligence sources, are already radicalized.

A project to overwhelm Europe by a huge wave of migration was already described by the Islamic State in documents discovered this February. It is hard to rule out that the Islamic State plays a role in what is happening. Turkish authorities are ignoring the massive departures taking place from their coast. If they really wanted the current process to stop, they could stop it. That is clearly not what they do. The Islamic State could not survive without Turkish help. Daily flights on Turkish Airlines bring illegal migrants to Istanbul; they continue unhindered to Europe. The Russians, in their military intervention in Syria, similarly does not seem interested in stopping what is occurring".

Anyway I thought it was an interesting article and brings together most of the fears people in Europe and the UK have and the concerns I think our leaders need to at least start listening to because as it says in the article the leaders such as Merkel don't seem to hear those concerns instead there seems to be no organisation and no end in sight. I've also seen a video today of a Syrian refugee being interviewed in Germany and it shows the conditions there. It is coming to something when even a refugee is saying they need to stop letting people in if the infrastructure isn't there to cope with these numbers. Although, many Syria refugees have been voicing these type of concerns for weeks now. The kind people don't seem able to see that what is happening at the moment is just as cruel but in a different way. Syrian refugees are the people in real need and yet they have said themselves they are being pushed to back of the queue in many instances because there are so many economic migrants who shouldn't even be seeking asylum. The video is here:

www.liveleak.com...

Russia is flooding European countries
They sold them boats and made a killing
Now there selling them bicycles lol
200 dollars a bike and helping them into Europe through Sweden or somewhere near there.
Got a bad feeling some European leaders
Are helping Putin

Mohummud did prophecy that the Koran
Will be preached across the land of Rome

Looks like it is happening
Shame Mohummud didn't see what will happen after it
Let me just say
Not so good for Islam

We will make the worshippers of Friday
Lower their wings.

Says Nostradamus

originally posted by: ErrorErrorError

WOOOW. Look at those numbers people. Muslims are TAKING OVER. Run for your lives. What a load of propaganda BS . How the ___ can a such small minority conquer anything ? ATS - embrace ignorance

Hey, don't you know Muslims are predicted to reach a full 10% of Europe's population by 2050?! (according to this article). 10%, that's only 41% less than a majority! Plus we make up less than 1.5% of America's population (wikipedia says 0.9% in 2010). Obviously that's enough to force Shariah Law & Fatwas on everyone!! Say goodbye bacon! Fear fear fear!

(obviously i'm joking w/you. if i don't say that, some people here will think i'm serious. "home of the brave", yeah right)