At least 220 dead, 450 hurt in stampede during Hajj outside Mecca

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originally posted by: thesaneone

originally posted by: maddy21
a reply to: thesaneone

No...Cranes falling and stampede in Hajj is not something which happens every year. Usually these things are well organized by the Saudi's

Yes, people die every year from being trample during the hajj. Why is that so hard to believe?

How many people die every year ? do you have any proof , event dates, death toll numbers ?

Death toll increases to 310 , as report from Saudi Civil defence

a reply to: maddy21

What a terrifying and frightening way to go, imagine the pressure, squeezing out every last bit of breath and fighting to breath. Such a scary way to have your life end, I can't imagine those emotions a family would be feeling with this going over in their heads. My heart really goes out to those affected.

originally posted by: texasyeti
In Texas stampede means cows. Mooo!

on Earth in english from the dictionary "stampede" can be used for any animal including human

www.merriam-webster.com...

stampede noun stam·pede (ˌ)stam-ˈpēd : an occurrence in which a large group of frightened or excited animals or people run together in a wild and uncontrolled way to escape from something, get out of a place, etc. : a situation in which a lot of people try to do the same thing at the same time

a reply to: maddy21

In the last 20 years around 3000 people have died at the hajj the worst was probably in the early 90's when around 1400 people died in a stampede but a simple search would give you more accurate info than I can.

en.m.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: maddy21
stampede in Hajj is not something which happens every year. Usually these things are well organized by the Saudi's

Let us see....

July 2, 1990 : A stampede inside a pedestrian tunnel (Al-Ma'aisim tunnel) leading out from Mecca towards Mina and the Plains of Arafat led to the deaths of 1,426 pilgrims, many of them of Malaysian, Indonesian and Pakistani origin.[2][3]
May 23, 1994 : A stampede killed at least 270 pilgrims at the stoning of the Devil ritual.
April 9, 1998: at least 118 pilgrims were trampled to death and 180 injured in an incident on Jamarat Bridge.[4]
March 5, 2001: Thirty five pilgrims were trampled to death in a stampede during the stoning of the Devil ritual.[5] February 11, 2003: The stoning of the Devil ritual claimed 14 pilgrims' lives.[6]
February 1, 2004: 251 pilgrims were killed and another 244 injured in a stampede during the stoning ritual in Mina.[7] January 12, 2006: A stampede during the stoning of the Devil on the last day of the Hajj in Mina killed at least 346 pilgrims and injured at least 289 more.

December 1975: An exploding gas cylinder caused a fire in a tent colony and resulted in the deaths of 200 pilgrims.[10]
April 15, 1997: 343 pilgrims were killed and 1,500 injured in a tent fire
November 1, 2011: Two pilgrims, a wife and husband, died in a coach fire.

July 31, 1987: A clash between Iranian demonstrators and Saudi security forces brought death to more than 400 pilgrims and injury to thousands more. July 9, 1989: Two bombs exploded, killing one pilgrim and wounding another 16

Nobody deserves this.

Way too indiscriminate.



Their families can take solace in the fact they permorned Hajj before they passed away.


RIP.

a reply to: pryingopen3rdeye

All in the name of Religion.... I guess you could say , they did die for it...SAD

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Savages.

But...important thing is...family of the dead will take comfort they

permorned Hajj

Indeed. Not only comforting...but also...I guess some scores of virgins will be there to dispense comfort.

But I agree...nobody deserves this.

I wonder what was the reason for the stampede ? everybody wanted to "permorn" before the other guy.

ups..I guess I'm in for a ban...just calling them like I see them.

I would think with the sheer number of people coming in that are not from the area, the death toll is fairly low. 2+ Million people making the same pilgrimage and a few hundred dying is sad, but because it happens fairly often at this event, the "organizers" must have an "acceptable" count of deaths they expect each year.

You can't put that many people into the same area and not expect it really. Especially when it involved religiously charged excitement. Sad it happens, but I don't think it is even avoidable in any way other than stopping the entire pilgrimage, which is likely not even possible.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

the death toll is fairly low. 2+ Million people making the same pilgrimage and a few hundred dying is sad, but because it happens fairly often at this event, the "organizers" must have an "acceptable" count of deaths they expect each year.

I dont know man...for such an event...people coming to pray to God or whatever...even 1 is too much don't you think ?

And why is this happening in the first place ? I don't think you can organize anything for 2+ million people...and think you have any kind of security.

I googled "christian pilgrimage stampede"...no results on first 2 pages. Actually...it redirected to Hajj pilgrimage stampede. I think my google is not working properly.

I hope someone doesnt take this the wrong way , but how many people were injured rushing to see the Pope in the US ?
Wouldnt that be comparable but on a smaller scale ? Ratios and proportions et al


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Saudi authorities say death toll from stampede at Hajj pilgrimage rises to 453

Yet another informational thread that begged not for the "hate-ers"..... Is there no humanity left in us humans?

Shameful. ..... .

a reply to: ReadLeader

maybe you just see it as hate. I don't think it's hateful to point to humans being ridiculous and savage. Whatever that group of humans may be.

TO me...the bull stampede in Pamplona is also savagery and stupid...only difference being...cretins that do it go there perfectly aware they might get trampled to death.