Bernie Sanders. Worse than Isis?

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

common ground despite our differences

I hear what you are saying and appreciate the sentiment for unity rather than division, but this sitting Occupier has been absolutely the most divisive I've ever seen in my lifetime and there is just no common ground with people who hate America and her Founding Fathers and Principles so much they have to change them and turn this country into a cesspool of socialist failure.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Hey, bud!

You know, Paul and Sanders are really not that far apart.

Anyway, thanks for your post.
Appreciate the willingness to look at both sides.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Skadi!!! That was a fabulous and applause-worthy post. If ever there has been one on this thread.....

Thanks.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Well I'll be damned. Here, after reading your political posts, I thought we had nothing in common politically but boy was I wrong!

I'd like to see a Paul vs Sanders 2016. I can only hope all this Trump worship finally passes and we can move on to real players, even though I dislike 99% of them.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Lame.
Trolling, then.

a reply to: Swills

Well I'll be damned. Here, after reading your political posts, I thought we had nothing in common politically but boy was I wrong!

Right?? I know!!
He's really been reaching across the chasm. Don't mean to gossip behind his back, but I've noticed that also!!

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Not quite. The last 7 years of liberal policies have been ineffective failures, but the previous 8 years of conservative policy were downright destructive.

It's actually more akin to the Titanic. You could say conservative policies were like the Captain and crew who blindly, despite warnings, steered the Titanic straight into the iceberg. The ingenius liberal policy to save the ship from sinking is to tie a few helium kids party balloons to the smokestacks in the belief this will keep the ship afloat, and want to use all hands on deck to pursue this complete fail of a solution.

Neither side is addressing the fact that, due to a delusional disregard for safety of the ship over profit and extravagance, 2/3 of the passengers are doomed to drown because there are no lifeboats for them, because those were traded away at port for less weight. Of those who have no lifeboats for them, the majority are on the lower end of the economic food chain. What I'd like to see is a candidate for president who is concerned about trying to save as many life-boatless passengers as he can, and who can think outside the box, and help the doomed passengers make themselves lifeboats using whatever they can salvage in new and resourceful ways never before considered, so that as many of the forgotten 2/3 have a chance to make it to a rescue ship or landfall as possible.

And once we are all safely back at port, holding all who led to this disaster to account. I can dream.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

oh right its all Bush's fault


Bush wasn't my fav Prez either. Let's just say right or left the CFR is running things

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I can sum up at least half of right wing epic failures that have damaged this country in in a few words: excessive deregulation and privatization. Specifically? Deregulation of utilities in California, leading to the destabilization of the power grid, hyperinflation of energy costs, an a major economic blow to every single industry in California. Plus Enron. Then the deregulation of the finance industry to the point that complete-fraud was being permitted to take place openly, leading to 2008 collapse which devastated world markets, and is still going on. Two examples that cover a buttload of policy failures. I won't even start on Reaganomics.

Another third of the conservative failures have been their "Wars on _____". The war on Terror and the invasion of Iraq: fail. War on Drugs? A festering and totally hypocritical fail that has been destroying this country on the legal, political, economic, social, and moral fronts for close to 40 years. It seems that conservatives think that a war is the solution to every single problem, including domestic ones.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

oh right its all Bush's fault

Bush? No. But the Republicans were at the helm for those years, creating and pushing policies that have had destructive consequences. The Democrats simply supported them.

CFR is but a red herring smoke screen in the larger picture.

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: amazing

Sanders rather than Bush or Clinton?? Damn.....No, none of the above. Mere semantics...

Really though? I mean, we're going to get someone that's running now. So none of the above won't cut it and I can't think of anyone worse than Clinton or Bush. I'd take anyone over those two.

It would therefore be good for all of us to do everything in our power to make sure those two don't get elected.

a reply to: nwtrucker

I spent the last 5 years in the San Francisco bay area...most of my friends there are Bernie supporters...I spent much of my time fighting against his influence. I find most of my time is not fought against democrats or in favor of republicans. I spend my time educating people in economics, and fighting against socialism. Socialism is tyranny and corruption worse than what we have currently. Socialist nations are ran by a ruling elite, with a bloated over reaching government, and their people are taxed (over 40% of their income!) into servitude. We often hear about how these nations have free education, but there are limitations, and those free slots go to the children of the elite and the politicians. Children of everyday workers do not get a free slot and cannot afford an education. Free healthcare may come with long wait times or other limitations in care.
This usually leads to a conversation about small government, low taxes, and more freedom...a representative republic form of government our founders adopted...I believe today this can be achieved through conservative libertarianism.

Just lol

a reply to: AnonymousMoose

I hope you are right.

a reply to: amazing

Yes, really! It is a hypothetical choice aimed at garnering support for Sanders, obviously.

I would take Fiorina, Carson, Walker, Cruz over all three of the above.

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

I see it the other way around. The Dems with destructive policies and the GOP Establishment support them....

a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

California?? Really? When has deregulation by the "Republicans' affected Ca.?

The state that refuses to increase it's own energy supply and demands other states increase their supply to Ca. when their supply is already maxed? Then sues those states and Corporations into complying? Heck, they even sued the province of British Columbia for surcharging it's natural gas exports...LMAO.

California is the perfect example of left-wing grid-locking of itself into a financial, public utility-including water-nightmare and underscores the direction the left would take us. After twenty years living in Ca. I left as have a number of people I know.

The worst part is that everyone tells him how ignorant he is and he concienciously continues to spill IGNORANCE to his fellow Racist guide them to be called a backward tribe by history.

Oh Jesus help them.

a reply to: enlightenedservant