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originally posted by: Reallyfolks
originally posted by: jacobe001
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: DrakeINFERNO
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
If it has to be a lib sanders over Hillary.
Silly sillies. Hillary is 100% behind a Bernie Sanders victory. So is Jeb! So is Trump!
As they say, ignore the talk watch the walk.
Follow the Money
Bernie is not backed by One Crony Capitalist Corporation or Bank in Funding unlike Bush, Obama,Hillary, Jeb and so on.
He is being backed by your average American.
And that is the reason he is gaining popularity, also the reason he will never be president. You want to be a big dog, you interact and establish yourself among the big dogs. You don't interact and establish yourself among the porch puppies. Probably not the best analogy but you get the point.
originally posted by: Reallyfolks
No not like that at all I specifically said no on public financing, did you read what I posted or saw campaign finance reform and jumped to show he is doing something? Seems like the latter
He really wants to help. Then he needs to push something along the lines of campaign finance reform.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: jacobe001
I do not understand your thinking Neo. The Free Stuff meme is from Crony Capitalists. They want to give you "Free Stuff" to profit from and have others pay for it.
No. The stuff 'meme' comes from politciians trying to buy votes. Which should more appropriately be called the 'robbing hood' complex.
Politicians have been using it for decades. Rob from the rich, Give to the poor, So the poor can go out, and BUY more stuff.
But this comparison of wealth desn’t show us quite what Mr. Goldberg thinks it does. If you’ve no debts and have $10 in your pocket you have more wealth than 25% of Americans. More than that 25% of Americans have collectively that is.
originally posted by: EverydayInVA
I hate to break it to you, but it's not those CEOs faults, it's the politicians who opt to take their money then protect them by passing the laws that they are able to game and take advantage of. If you were one of those CEOs you seriously wouldn't do the same thing if it were legal? If you say no, I'm calling BS. Maybe if we had ANY politicians that had any integrity we wouldn't be where we are right now, but your buddy Bernie was there in DC, and ultimately that makes him responsible with the rest of them. Funny he starts to speak up about it now when it's too late.
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: TheJourney
originally posted by: intrptr
"Calling them out", huh? Let me know when they get arrested.
Government knows what side their bread is buttered on.
Those companies butter sanders' bread huh? How bout looking into the source of his donations, and specifically who he DOESN'T take donations from.
I didn't say him exclusively. Nice twist. You go right on believing (or promoting) current government et al, has the peoples over big business interest at heart.
Can't get fooled again.
originally posted by: jacobe001
originally posted by: greencmp
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: neo96
So throw the wounded veteran who can't work and needs disability to the dogs, it's just a bribe no one actually needs help.
May I ask what is the purpose of government anyway? Thought it was supposed to be, by the people, for the people. If it's not actually helping the people in any way what so ever? What exactly is it supposed to do?
Defend the national borders and uphold the rule of law.
In the very beginning.
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
‹ U.S. Constitution
Policies like NAFTA, TPP, China Trade and so on at the expense to this country goes against the Constitution.
Tariffs are Constuitutional and that is how you fight for the best interests of your nation.
The Global Corporate Fascists do not want national protections though. Only for them as seen in the TPP.
Prancing around the globe with our military to protect Corporate and Banking interests is unconstitutional.
That is their OWN responsibility, not the Tax Payers
originally posted by: greencmp
Tariffs are constitutional (and destructive), I do concede their presence and their definition here isn't contested.
However, General Welfare as it was defined and intended at the time did not mean economic social assistance.
I am very much opposed to cronyism and any application of the power of the state for any purpose other than that which is clearly defined.
originally posted by: jacobe001
originally posted by: greencmp
Tariffs are constitutional (and destructive), I do concede their presence and their definition here isn't contested.
However, General Welfare as it was defined and intended at the time did not mean economic social assistance.
I am very much opposed to cronyism and any application of the power of the state for any purpose other than that which is clearly defined.
I am aware it never meant social assistance.
It meant passing economic policies beneficial to ALL in this nation and not just the few wealthy elite.
Trading with a country like Communist China, where workers have no rights and where they stole millions of peoples lands and forced them to move to the cities to make widgets should have been something everyone in this country was outraged about.
But when there is money to be made by the Corporate Fascists, we heard not a peep or outcry about it.
Not to mention the damage done to this country where we moved a lot of our infrastructure to China.
We can't do anything about China since it is their own country, but the corporate lobbyists for trade with China should be brought up on charges for human rights abuses.
"When Goods Don't Cross Borders, Armies Will"
-Otto T. Mallery
originally posted by: greencmp
I still have significant nationalist attitudes when it comes to necessary military defense but, I have none when it comes to economic warfare. The very same policies that we both abhor in cronyism are born of protectionism such as tariffs.
"When Goods Don't Cross Borders, Armies Will"
-Otto T. Mallery
originally posted by: jacobe001
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: jacobe001
I do not understand your thinking Neo. The Free Stuff meme is from Crony Capitalists. They want to give you "Free Stuff" to profit from and have others pay for it.
No. The stuff 'meme' comes from politciians trying to buy votes. Which should more appropriately be called the 'robbing hood' complex.
Politicians have been using it for decades. Rob from the rich, Give to the poor, So the poor can go out, and BUY more stuff.
Nice little story you have going there NEO. Keep believing that.
Obama for example promised many things to get votes to the people that picked him, didn't he?
Here are just a few
Transparent Government
Rein in Corruption on Wall Street.
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.
Reduce the cost of healthcare
And more
www.activistpost.com...
Obama's top donors were Banksters and Healthcare.
You do the math.
IT IS THEFT from the poor and middle class to the rich that own our government
So tell me how the voters were helped from his promises?
They weren't.
The wealthy parasites that are infesting our government did.
I don't want to see a Sanders presidency because when he runs out of ivory towers to burn down, he'll turn to golden towers, then to silver towers, then to wooden towers... That's the problem with
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Sigh.
burd bud...have you even looked at HIS website, to see what he stands for? He's not a Communist. He's simply asking for the richest, hidyest (the ones who hide the most), cheatingest people to step up and put in their fair share.
:/
originally posted by: neo96
Theft eh ?
Government created fiat currency to begin with.
So basically the POLITICIANS created the MEANS to pay themselves with.
The more power they take. The more money they make.
Every single person, and business's alike is that the MERCY of fiat currency.
I do not know why some people refuse to see that.
Guess it just doesn't fit in to their false narrative that everything 'wrong' in this country is the 'evil' corporations fault.
All roads lead to Washington DC, and those SHILLS on capitol hill like Sander playing to the masses perceptual ID complex.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: mOjOm
Mainly because of foresight. I don't want to see a Sanders presidency because when he runs out of ivory towers to burn down, he'll turn to golden towers, then to silver towers, then to wooden towers... That's the problem with socialists, they just run down the ladder knocking people off until everyone is on the bottom, then they take away the ladder to keep you there.