18 CEOs Called Out By Bernie Sanders

a reply to: greencmp

okay. how about giving them a lollipop and a 'sticker'. Which latter shows up on their passports and resumes and email and computer screen and phone wallpaper and every document they ever "signed", whether it is written today, or 25 years ago. Branded. What the sticker says, however is up for grabs. A 'star'? A 'get out of jail free' card? What do you think.....



okay. Let's do that, then.


Except not the lollipops.

originally posted by: jacobe001

originally posted by: greencmp


I still have significant nationalist attitudes when it comes to necessary military defense but, I have none when it comes to economic warfare. The very same policies that we both abhor in cronyism are born of protectionism such as tariffs.



"When Goods Don't Cross Borders, Armies Will"

-Otto T. Mallery

How Convenient.
And why is that?

It comes down to money doesn't it?
There is money to be made for defense contractors and there is money to be made off cheaper labor.

You want completely free trade I take it.
Both Workers and Owners need to be free in all countries we deal with then. Correct?

That crosses out China, since workers have no rights.

Also, if a country in Indonesia can produce a drug cheaper than Big Pharma in the US can, then they should be able to sell it to whomever they please.

That is Free Trade at work.

The TPP is anything but fair and free trade.

Corporate Fascists want complete freedom for themselves the world over but don't think workers and consumers should have complete freedom when working or buying goods elsewhere.

They want protections and they run to the big bad government with its military to enforce it.

Big Pharma and Monsanto come to mind right off the bat.

More power for them and no power for the consumer.

Besides your proposed socialist solution, I don't see a huge difference in our positions.

You want to erect trade barriers where I do not and you want the state to control business.

I believe that it is not ultimately harmful to freely trade regardless of foreign reciprocation.

originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Sigh.

burd bud...have you even looked at HIS website, to see what he stands for? He's not a Communist. He's simply asking for the richest, hidyest (the ones who hide the most), cheatingest people to step up and put in their fair share.

:/

We have already ostracized and discouraged enough economic activity in the United States. The corporate tax rates are too high already and preferential treatment has made it even worse. Those who could have already left and our policies now serve only to harm our own innovators.

If you want to coax productive commerce back to our shores, demonizing them and chastising them hardly seems productive.

Commerce left our shores because of cheaper labor from workers that have no rights.
From intentional one sided trade policies by corporate lobbyists

We import more from China by a factor of 4 than we export to them.
Why is that?

Because China has tariffs on US goods in order to favor their nation.
They put their nation first unlike ours

Majority of our stuff comes from China.
If we enacted tariffs, what are the corporations that moved to China going to do?
Sell their 500 dollar ipads to the Chinese that make a dollar a day? Good Luck with that.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

You could give it a shot, dunno?

a reply to: jacobe001

And like I said for the millionth time. the politicians are all Corporate and Banking Politicians that you worship.

Which is not even close to being the truth.

HouseHold Assets are over 4 times that of corporate Assets.

That is not even counting the money that is owed to the BIG 4 called 'unfunded' libablities. Oh they are called unfunded for a reason.

There is not enough 'evil' rich money to pay for the masses wants.

www.usdebtclock.org...

I do not see a divide like you do between Corporations, Banks and Government

Try harder because it's there.

a reply to: jacobe001

You propose that we be more like China?

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: jacobe001

You propose that we be more like China?

That is what has gotten us in to this mess.

Sanders, and the rest of those that think like him is exactly why we all pay more for the labor to produce things than the actual cost to make them.

The simple fact of why business leave here is because it's cheaper to build crap 10,000 miles away, and ship it here.

Than to make the same thing 1 mile away from where a person lives.

Something had to give, and boy did it ever.

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: jacobe001

You propose that we be more like China?

Hardly.

We are already like China and I would like to reverse it.

In China, the government controls the biggest corporations.

In the USA, the biggest corporations control the government.

It does not matter to me on what the order is because the result is the same. The power of the markets and government are in control of the top wealthy elite.

They look after they and theirs and screw the rest of the nation.

Read my Signature.

The Crony Capitalists have been trying to convince people that removing them from power is Communism, Socialism or some other nonsense. They were never supposed to have control to begin with.

in 1970, there were less than 200 Corporate and Banking Lobby Offices in DC.
Today there are over 2000 Corporate and Banking Lobby Offices in DC

It is supposed to a free market of sink or swim, instead we have collusion and collaboration between the Big Banks, Corporations and Politicians.

a reply to: neo96

THEN WHY ON EARTH should Trump be President???

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
18 CEOs Called Out By Bernie Sanders For Taking Trillions In Bailouts, Evading Taxes, and Outsourcing Jobs



This is happening. And ordinary people are paying attention.
You all anti-Bernie folks can just keep carrying on....
but, the facts are that Bernie is reaching the people who are not Holy Rollers and are likewise not Wall Street Cheats.

Bernie Sanders is the underdog in the American political race, but he’s quickly gaining momentum as a prime candidate to lead the US, as his no-nonsense, candor approach is appreciated by many – especially the millennial generation.

Remaining true to his promise to serve the people as a politician, Sanders responded to the lecture from the American CEOs by releasing a report detailing how 18 of them have helped blow up the deficit and wreck the economy outsourcing jobs and evading US taxes.
The list of 18 CEOs follows:

1) Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $1.9 billion tax refund.

Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? Over $1.3 trillion.

Amount of federal income taxes Bank of America would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.6 billion.

2) Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $278 million tax refund.

Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $824 billion.

Amount of federal income taxes Goldman Sachs would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.7 billion

3) JP Morgan Chase CEO James Dimon
Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $416 billion.

Amount of federal income taxes JP Morgan Chase would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.9 billion.

4) General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $3.3 billion tax refund.

Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve? $16 billion.

Jobs Shipped Overseas? At least 25,000 since 2001.

5) Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $705 million tax refund.

American Jobs Cut in 2010? In 2010, Verizon announced 13,000 job cuts, the third highest corporate layoff total that year.

6) Boeing CEO James McNerney, Jr.
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? None. $124 million tax refund.

American Jobs Shipped overseas? Over 57,000.

Amount of Corporate Welfare? At least $58 billion.

7) Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer
Amount of federal income taxes Microsoft would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $19.4 billion.

8) Honeywell International CEO David Cote
Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $34 million tax refund.

9) Corning CEO Wendell Weeks
Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $4 million tax refund.

10) Time Warner CEO Glenn Britt
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $74 million tax refund.

11). Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $55 million tax refund.

12) Deere & Company CEO Samuel Allen
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $1 million tax refund.

13) Marsh & McLennan Companies CEO Brian Duperreault
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $90 million refund.

14) Qualcomm CEO Paul Jacobs
Amount of federal income taxes Qualcomm would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.7 billion.

15) Tenneco CEO Gregg Sherill
Amount of federal income taxes Tenneco would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $269 million.

16) Express Scripts CEO George Paz
Amount of federal income taxes Express Scripts would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $20 million.

17) Caesars Entertainment CEO Gary Loveman
Amount of federal income taxes Caesars Entertainment would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $9 million.

18). R.R. Donnelly & Sons CEO Thomas Quinlan III
Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $49 million tax refund.

As PoliticusUSA discloses, eighteen of the 80 CEOs who signed the call for deficit action are actually some of the biggest outsourcers and tax cheats in America. Not only did they crash the economy in 2008, they followed that incident by taking billions in taxpayer bailout dollars.

Yeah. So. That.
Who among us is earnestly rootng for Jamie Dimon and all those .... other cheaters?? Right here on ATS? Who do you think belongs in prison?

Please, speak up.
I'd like to understand your mentality.

Thanks for reading.

Feel the burn!

We do not have Communism like China, we have Fascism.
newdeal.feri.org...

The Dangers of American Fascism by Vice President Henry A Wallace 1944

If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States. There are probably several hundred thousand if we narrow the definition to include only those who in their search for money and power are ruthless and deceitful. Most American fascists are enthusiastically supporting the war effort. They are doing this even in those cases where they hope to have profitable connections with German chemical firms after the war ends. They are patriotic in time of war because it is to their interest to be so, but in time of peace they follow power and the dollar wherever they may lead.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: neo96

THEN WHY ON EARTH should Trump be President???

Well Hey.

Who else is more qualified to handle a bankrupt government?

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: neo96

THEN WHY ON EARTH should Trump be President???

Well Hey.

Who else is more qualified to handle a bankrupt government?

Not withstanding that he went bankrupt himself several times, as a "business decision" I am told, he is also from Big Money, is a Crony Capitalist himself that has bought off people and most important, is in the Big Boy Club.

You do not get to where Trump is without greasing others palms and I have had enough of that mentality in this country.
He has a circle of friends in powerful positions that he will grease back and for the majority of American's not dam thing will change.

He also is talking the good talk like Obama did, saying what others want to hear.
He is Obama 2.0

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: neo96

THEN WHY ON EARTH should Trump be President???

I personally wouldn't like to see a Trump presidency.

But as Menchen called it so,so,so many years ago.

When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost... All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. Baltimore Sun (26 July 1920)

en.wikiquote.org...

Oh and that quote applies to both LEFT, and RIGHT equally.

a reply to: neo96

Yeah, it's Mencken.

He also said:
"Puritanism. The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, might be happy."

a reply to: neo96

See Plato: Philosopher Kings

See also: Idiocracy




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originally posted by: mOjOm
Who else will you be choosing BTW???

Rand Paul, though I have warmed to Ben Carson as well.

I want a candidate with the balls to make EVERYONE pay into the game. Having 48% of society in negative tax range while the other 52% of us subsidize and support them IS NOT working for me at all. Sanders loves to piss and whine about corporate America... well, warts and all the top 1% is funding 45% of the US' budget while the bottom 47% are accounting for money being spent out of that budget. Positive is always greater than negative. Until America patches the holes in the bottom of the bucket, we're wasting the water going into the bucket and it makes no sense to keep trying to fill it.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: neo96

Yeah, it's Mencken.

He also said:
"Puritanism. The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, might be happy."

Some of my personal favorites of his...

"The ideal government of all reflective men, from Aristotle onward, is one which lets the individual alone-one which barely escapes being no government at all."

"Good government is that which delivers the citizen from being done out of his life and property too arbitrarily and violently-one that relieves him sufficiently from the barbaric business of guarding them to enable him to engage in gentler, more dignified, and more agreeable undertakings..."

"All government is, in its essence, organized exploitation, and in virtually all of its existing forms it is the implacable enemy of every industrious and well-disposed man."

-H.L. Mencken

originally posted by: greencmp



Besides your proposed socialist solution, I don't see a huge difference in our positions.

You want to erect trade barriers where I do not and you want the state to control business.

I believe that it is not ultimately harmful to freely trade regardless of foreign reciprocation.

The Constitution is a socialist document?
It upholds tariffs as a measure to protect our nations economy.

Are you a Globalist NWO Type?

Do you understand the law of supply and demand when it comes to labor and the effects it has had on our country and its people. When you employ slave labor in Communist China it IS GOING to have an effect on our markets as well.

Eventually you run out of other people's money and that is what is happening.

The ones that made off Big via China Trade policies are hiding their money in the Caymans and have left our country in shambles. Our country started going down hill from Globalism, starting with Japan in the 70's.

But lets someone how change gears and blame everyone that has no political power to buy politicians.

When are Corporate and Banking Lobbyists going to start exerting some personal responsibility over the policies that pass onto their puppets?

Whats that?

They have no responsibility to this nation and its people but only to the top echelon and their shareholders?

Then they need to be booted out of our goverment, politicians and lobbyists alike in accordance with the Constitution where this country comes first.

a reply to: jacobe001

Since you are supporting a socialist, I assumed you were a socialist, my apologies.

Yes, tariffs are proto-socialist as well as mercantilist.

Primarily though, they are anti-free market.