18 CEOs Called Out By Bernie Sanders

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Puppylove

If you have a message at least be a realist out of it. With all the lobbyists and corporate bribes you can't just ignore the corporations part in all this.

Who is ignoring it ?

That is what Sanders is all about. Lobbying the masses to get in to office so he can 'rob from the rich, and give to the poor' so they can go out, and buy more stuff.

Meanwhile INCREASING the cost of goods and services,putting MORE people out of work, and INCREASING the tax burden on ALL of us.

Guess it's just better to bribe the gullible in to thinking things are going to be so 'awesome' under a Sanders regime with MORE free stuff.

When the reverse will be true.

I do not understand your thinking Neo.
The Free Stuff meme is from Crony Capitalists.
They want to give you "Free Stuff" to profit from and have others pay for it.

We would not Have Obamacare if it were not for the Health and Insurance Industry Lobbyists that are at the top of the totem pole in lobbying.

It was the politicians and lovbbyists pushing for healthcare reform. A Stealth Bail Out for them.

It was not the average American living paycheck to paycheck that do not have the money to buy politicians

The problem in this country is Crony Capitalism, and the Crony Capitalists are screaming Communism, Socialism and so on if we take their power away and kick them back into the private markets to sink or swim.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Seeing those ZEROS after"Taxes paid"
with ludicrous tax refunds made my blood boil and ruined my Sunday morning coffee.

grrrr.

Sorry.....

it makes it hard for me to eat at all. Thing is, these are not "new" revelations....but more and more people are becoming aware of them, which is helpful for all of us.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Kind of hard to establish yourself with the Big Dogs when you're looking to get voted in as the new dog catcher. What's he gonna do, introduce himself to them with "Hi I'm Bernie Sanders, if elected I'm going to bring your corrupt business practices and policy of greed to a halt."

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Reallyfolks

Could very well be - but at the very least, he's bringing the message out of hiding. And if enough people get angry enough and fed-up enough, no matter WHO gets elected, the ISSUES will be out front and center....thanks to Bernie.

Bernie is NOT a Communist, no matter how many of you keep repeating that he is.

He is NOT just talking the talk; which is why Elizabeth Warren would be a fantastic cabinet member (and more effectual than she would be as VP; she deserves more than the "consolation prize").

And one more thing: ICELAND.
Yes, we're 10 times bigger in population, and yes, perhaps we are just too damned big to make ANY system work....
but I'm willing to give him a shot at it.

If he wins the popular vote but Clinton or Bush (or Trump) gets "elected" by the "college" - there could be a huge backlash....
I had Ron Paul signs in my yard, until it was obvious he had no chance.
Bernie DOES have a chance....

He really wants to help. Then he needs to push something along the lines of campaign finance reform. Not public as I don't believe in it, and don't care if corporations are people. You push to establish like. a 25.00 limit per person for any candidate in a cycle and say a 50.00 for a corporation even bundling. Until a hard low limit is set then the average person will never have the same voice in politics, your voice is determined by your money. You can't make everyone wealthy but you can level the playing field.

As long as politicians can cater to the rich for all their funding, connections, and power they will continue to do a minority of work that benefits them in the favor system. Throw the occaisional bone to everyone else.

Want that to change low hard limits instantly does that. There are a lot more non 1% than 1%. Force the politicians to spend their time where the majority of people are being chased by the politicians.

Plenty of issues and problems with this suggestion, can't ever see it going anywhere, but if Bernie is going to lose fight to bring awareness to something that can have a lasting instant change on all politics going forward. Anything else will be temporary and short lived. Just my opinion.

I posted this on another thread. I think it might be relevant

a reply to: tinyDAWK

Please do. I've been following him for a long time, and find that he speaks honestly, earnestly, and without putting up a false front. What you see is what he is. He also speaks to the specifics of what he would do as president, the real nuts and bolts of the work, rather than sweeping generalities. He definitely is for real.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

You mean like this??

Bernie Sanders to fight for campaign finance reform

Campaign Finance

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Then he needs to push something along the lines of campaign finance reform.

He is pushing that.

For more than thirty years, Sen. Sanders has been a staunch advocate for effective campaign finance reform that reduces the influence of special interests and corporations.

To that end, he has introduced a resolution to amend the U.S. Constitution, making it clear that the right to vote and the ability to make campaign contributions and expenditures belong only to real people, not corporations. The Democracy is for People Amendment (S. J Res 11) would effectively prevent corporations from bankrolling election campaigns. Congress and the States would have specific authority to regulate campaign finances. Read an FAQ on the amendment.

“If we cannot control billionaires’ power to buy elections, the people elected to office will be responsive to the needs of the rich and powerful, rather than the needs of everyone else.”
- Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

www.sanders.senate.gov...
Mkay?
Yeah. He's the real deal.

a reply to: jacobe001

I do not understand your thinking Neo. The Free Stuff meme is from Crony Capitalists. They want to give you "Free Stuff" to profit from and have others pay for it.

No. The stuff 'meme' comes from politciians trying to buy votes. Which should more appropriately be called the 'robbing hood' complex.

Politicians have been using it for decades. Rob from the rich, Give to the poor, So the poor can go out, and BUY more stuff.

That is crony capitalism, Some EPIC examples of the are Social Security. Employers paying contributions of 6 % Employers FORCED to match that contribution at another 6%. Problem IS that a persons benefits FAR exceed money ever paid in to it. Medicare works the same way.

Which is why we borrow money from other countries,print more money,print more treasuries, AND wait for it.

RAISE taxes,Created taxes to cover the spending shortfall.

POLITICIANS created that system.

We would not Have Obamacare if it were not for the Health and Insurance Industry Lobbyists that are at the top of the totem pole in lobbying.

WE have 'ObamaCAre' because of politicians. Truth be told it shouldn't even EXIST in the first place.

Because of Reagans EMTLA that became LAW back in the 80s, and before that Johnson MEDICAID.

Both specifically written for the poor.

Politicans LIED like they always do.

It was the politicians and lovbbyists pushing for healthcare reform. A Stealth Bail Out for them.

I saw no 'reform' hell what most people don't want to see is that the US government is the largest healthcare provider in the country. Between medicare, and medicaid. That accounts for over 100 million people alone.

That is OVER 100 million people taken out of the private sector, Where healthcare since it is a CORPORATE produst belongs anyway.

The politicians via Obamacare used authoritarianism to get more 'customers' for themselves, and to DESTROY what was left of the PRIVATE market.

It was not the average American living paycheck to paycheck that do not have the money to buy politicians

Oh now we ALL have something more vaulabe to them than money, our VOTE.

The problem in this country is Crony Capitalism, and the Crony Capitalists are screaming Communism, Socialism and so on if we take their power away and kick them back into the private markets to sink or swim.

The problem in this country are the politicians.

And if people REALLY wanted to go back to a 'private' market based system.

Then people would BE supporting getting rid of social security,medicare,mediicaid, free homes,education food stamps, and ending EVERY other CORPORATE subsidy.

Like I do, But I'm evil.

And yet the people who support those programs FAIL to see that they themselves are SUPPORTING CRONY CAPITALISM, that some people also called communism, and socialism.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Here's some more of his words:

The truth is, however, that
there is no single issue
more important to
the needs of ordinary
Americans than the issue
of campaign fnance.

From an article he wrote himself, 1 year ago....

Democracy or Oligarchy?

originally posted by: TheJourney

originally posted by: intrptr
"Calling them out", huh? Let me know when they get arrested.

Government knows what side their bread is buttered on.

Those companies butter sanders' bread huh? How bout looking into the source of his donations, and specifically who he DOESN'T take donations from.

I didn't say him exclusively. Nice twist. You go right on believing (or promoting) current government et al, has the peoples over big business interest at heart.

Can't get fooled again.

a reply to: mOjOm

You are correct. We need to vote for other Bernie Sanders in local elections as much as possible. Someone with a record of keeping their word and what their stance is on campaigning reforms.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: Reallyfolks

You mean like this??

Bernie Sanders to fight for campaign finance reform

Campaign Finance

No not like that at all I specifically said no on public financing, did you read what I posted or saw campaign finance reform and jumped to show he is doing something? Seems like the latter

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Reallyfolks

Here's some more of his words:

The truth is, however, that
there is no single issue
more important to
the needs of ordinary
Americans than the issue
of campaign fnance.

From an article he wrote himself, 1 year ago....

Democracy or Oligarchy?

Not referring to public financing as I don't see it as the fix. I see public financing leading to even more business as usual politics and not a solution. Which is why I said no to public financing in my post in favor of hard, low, limits for both individuals and corporations.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: BuzzyWigs



Wall Street leaders eh?



Wasn't the CEO's fault.

It was POLITICIANS.

Again Still haven't seen one word of TRUTH from Sanders.

You keep playing that left right game and see how well that works out for you.
Majority of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and do not have any $$political power$$$

So that pretty much narrows it down to who is at fault doesn't it?

Puppet Politicians and their Corporate and Banking Masters and who are also doing better than ever thanks to Corporate Fascism while everyone else gets the shaft or ends up paying for it, with what little they have left.

Here are some of your evil politicians


www.opensecrets.org...

35 out of 40 Goldman Sachs lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
53 out of 61 Citigroup Inc lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
58 out of 69 JPMorgan Chase & Co lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
20 out of 25 Morgan Stanley lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs


85 out of 114 General Electric lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
36 out of 48 Koch Industries lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
116 out of 141 Comcast Corp lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
76 out of 103 Wal-Mart Stores lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
22 out of 30 Monsanto Co lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs



69 out of 109 Lockheed Martin lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
40 out of 51 Honeywell International lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
51 out of 67 Raytheon Co lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
96 out of 133 General Dynamics lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
32 out of 49 Northrop Grumman lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs
83 out of 115 Boeing Co lobbyists in 2013-2014 have previously held government jobs


No Conflict of Interest there. Nope!

a reply to: jacobe001

Yeah someone IS playing a game.

No matter WHAT.

It's them evil corporations, and 'lobbyists.

Politicians are just 'puppets'!!

The only strings I see get pulled are the peoples.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Yes, limits.

But I think (and perhaps this is what he means by 'publicly funded') that every single candidate should be on a level playing field. For example....
1) no campaigning prior to six months before election day.

2) each candidate gets a fixed number of Public Service Announcement ads (in print, on the web, and on tv) DONATED by the stations/channels/sites. That's all. 20 or 500 or whatever -but they ALL get an equal number of 'minutes' to state their case

3) a clear statement that every person who files taxes will have $3 put toward campaigns (that's already an "option" in the tax code, as we all see on our return paperwork - "Would you like to contribute $3 toward federal elections?") It doesn't "add" to the individual's tax burden, it just gets earmarked to go toward campaign funding.

However much money is amassed as a result of each TAX-PAYER's simple $3 (which would be a respectable amount of money), get's divided up between the candidates. No more for some, no less for others.

NO LOBBYING or private donations of any kind are needed at all.

And just in case you are concerned about how he's going to "pay for" the free college education he's promoting - it would be by putting a small (very small) tax/fee on every Wall Street Transaction. Like "Office Space", where the guys devise a plan to siphon off .0001 cents from transactions - which no one would miss.....

You see?
Fair, impartial coverage. They just state their case, and then sit down. No mud-slinging (or they get a T&C violation and are removed from running, or something similar to that). No "extra time" or "infomercials".

The second they start pointing fingers at some other candidate, they get shut up and shot down.

originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: neo96

So throw the wounded veteran who can't work and needs disability to the dogs, it's just a bribe no one actually needs help.

May I ask what is the purpose of government anyway? Thought it was supposed to be, by the people, for the people. If it's not actually helping the people in any way what so ever? What exactly is it supposed to do?

Defend the national borders and uphold the rule of law.

In the very beginning.

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

‹ U.S. Constitution

Policies like NAFTA, TPP, China Trade and so on at the expense to this country goes against the Constitution.
Tariffs are Constuitutional and that is how you fight for the best interests of your nation.

The Global Corporate Fascists do not want national protections though. Only for them as seen in the TPP.

Prancing around the globe with our military to protect Corporate and Banking interests is unconstitutional.
That is their OWN responsibility, not the Tax Payers

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

But how does that stop individuals from shouting up or down for candidates?

The massive enforcement necessary would need to eliminate the 1st Amendment.

Micro-managing is difficult and requires huge authoritarian policies.

Might be a problem.

a reply to: xuenchen

oh for heaven's sake, xuen.

Contrary Carl. Always with the Contrary Carl.


People can SAY whatever they want. They just can't THROW MONEY at whoever they "like-like".

If candidates were prohibited from publicly attacking other candidates, and were allowed ONLY to state their own case/platform, the mud-slinging would be put at bay. I never said anything about shutting up every voter. Good grief.