18 CEOs Called Out By Bernie Sanders

a reply to: mOjOm

If he tries to get the money by SuperPAC or Corporate Money you'd be calling him a sell out to the status quo.

He already is a sellout.

Miss the United Auto Worker and other UNION 'donations' ????

Man of the people eh ?

Hardly.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Semicollegiate

And you blame world war I for all of that? Not only world war I, but only one part of the whole thing? How does that make sense?

Yes, Jaques Barzun wrote a bestseller From Dawn to Decadence- The History of the West From 1500 to Present

"Decadence" is a historical term meaning that the institutions of society have become obsolete or dysfunctional. Like government is a jobs program instead of the impartial peacekeeper, and religion has become political instead of spiritual, higher education is job training instead of intellect growing, and society is an entity instead of a cooperative environment.

Barzun was a cultural historian.

Barzun discerns a brilliant period of creativity around the turn of the twentieth century. Then came the catalyst that accelerated and intensified the tendencies leading to decadence: “The blow that hurled the modern world on its course of self-destruction was the Great War of 1914–1918.” A sense of futility and absurdity prevailed. Constructivism became destructivism. There resulted a collapse of manners and authority, anti-heroes and anti-art, the ridicule of anything established, the distortions of language and objects, the indifference to clear meaning, the violence to the human form, the return to primitive elements of sensation. “The root principle is ‘Expect nothing.’”
www.newcriterion.com...

Before WW1 the economy was diverse, a steam car or electric car was almost as common as a gasoline car. There was no National media. There was almost nothing national at all, except the Tariff, the Post Office and the national political parties, both of which were collectivists. That is to say, as socialistic as they could get away with. Just before WW1, the population of the West was following the expert leaders instead their own interests. [1]

And the Leaders, maybe less than 100 people, started a war that destroyed the individual and made everyone a de facto collectivist.

During WW1, all Western Countries became central control oligarchies and the entire economy of each country was nationalized and standardized. The Mass Media was begun, all radio stations under government control,

The introduction of vacuum-tube equipment promised to revolutionize radio. However, all amateur and commercial use of radio came to an abrupt halt on April 7, 1917 when, with the entrance of the United States into World War One, most private U.S. radio stations were ordered by the President to either shut down or be taken over by the government, and for the duration of the war it became illegal for private U.S. citizens to even have an operational radio transmitter or receiver -- in fact, it was Treason to Possess Wireless Stations according to one zealous city manager, reported on the front page of the April 23, 1917 San Jose Evening News. Radio in the U.S. had become a government monopoly, reserved for the war effort.
earlyradiohistory.us...

That happened to all of the new technologies created by the Industrial Revolution.

After the war, the governments lightened up, but never relinquished the precedents of total control of the entire population and the economy. WW1 was the only way for the Bolsheviks to get Russia and the NAZIs to get Germany.

The Debt from WW1 was paid by inflation, which made the bubble that caused the stock market crash of 1929. The Great Depression was initiated by the debt from WW1. WW2 was motivated by the socialistic experts that exploited the peace treaty of WW1. The Cold War was made by WW2 and the Russian Revolution, both of which would never have happened without WW1.

WW1 would not have been possible without the unification of Germany, Italy and the US into single States. Strong central government was the goal of socialism, and the first fruit of socialism was WW1.

[1]From 1890 to 1914, large corporations, especially large national banks, supported the collectivist movement as a way to get favorable deals from a more powerful and useful government. Government standards for industry and products were easier for big companies to comply with that for small companies. During the war, most companies were forced to manufacture the products of major companies, much diversity was permanently truncated from the market.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Semicollegiate

And you blame world war I for all of that? Not only world war I, but only one part of the whole thing? How does that make sense?

Maybe "all that" was why WW1 happened.

Maybe it was part of the master plan.

Hmmm.

Strange "coincidences" eh.

Yeah, there wasn't enough gold in the whole world to finance the WW1.

December 1913, the fiat money central bank was created. 6 months later the war started and the "Good" Allied side started borrowing money from the US. If we had not entered the war, Great Britain and France and maybe Russia would not have been able to pay back the money they borrowed.

Officially a coincidence.

sorry...but i see a cult of personality developing. Worst part is: its not likely him that is developing it. Let that simmer around in the noggin for a bit.

nothing good remains good in Washington. Nothing. Its all corrupted from the inside.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
sorry...but i see a cult of personality developing. Worst part is: its not likely him that is developing it. Let that simmer around in the noggin for a bit.

nothing good remains good in Washington. Nothing. Its all corrupted from the inside.

I concur.

So does Living Colour.

a reply to: neo96

Vern Davis = guitar god.

Ill be interested to see Bernie's positions described in more words than soundbites and edited quotes. And possibly in person, rather than via the mouth of media.

Its easy to get a bead on the party candidates. They just toe a line. Bernie...feels more like a Bolshevik than anything else. Im thinking a Bernie Sander "Che" shirt might be a relevant political statemnt.

God I love Bernie. And this is exactly why I get so frustrated at people who make such a big deal out of things like food stamps and welfare. You're gonna get massively more angry and vocal about what amounts to a massively less amount of money, helping the lower class rather than the most wealthy? Unbelievably backwards. And why I refuse to blame the lower class in any way, because the reality is the wealthy are taking the system for a ride for infinitely more money. And anyone who makes a big deal out of things like food stamps and welfare is a hypocrite.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
sorry...but i see a cult of personality developing. Worst part is: its not likely him that is developing it. Let that simmer around in the noggin for a bit.

nothing good remains good in Washington. Nothing. Its all corrupted from the inside.

Republicans are due. Left Right Left Right.

Looks like Trump for president, Bernie would be most dependable to that end as an Independent on the ballot.

Like Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 and Ross Perot in 1992 and 1994.

Wilson was important because of the Federal Reserve and the Income Tax, he was in favor of those, Taft was not.

Why was Clinton so important? Neocon cadre formation? Waco? Needed a Dem before 911?

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Its easy to get a bead on the party candidates. They just toe a line. Bernie...feels more like a Bolshevik than anything else. Im thinking a Bernie Sander "Che" shirt might be a relevant political statemnt.

I Am inclined to agree again.

Considering who is giving him money as the earlier post, Unions.

Then figure in this:

The Bolsheviks, founded by Vladimir Lenin and Alexander Bogdanov, were by 1905 a major organization consisting primarily of workers under a democratic internal hierarchy governed by the principle of democratic centralism, who considered themselves the leaders of the revolutionary working class of Russia.

en.wikipedia.org...

I think your observation is right on the money.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Kind of like most towns. Moved here a couple of years ago and heard the locals say how one mayor in particular used to be good and straight laced and now pretty much gets buttered up by the hospital. It's a shame how those holding the office can get corrupted so easily but on the flip side if they don't play ball it's still a loss for them.

a reply to: neo96

dang that guy can play the guitar.

originally posted by: TheJourney
God I love Bernie. And this is exactly why I get so frustrated at people who make such a big deal out of things like food stamps and welfare. You're gonna get massively more angry and vocal about what amounts to a massively less amount of money, helping the lower class rather than the most wealthy? Unbelievably backwards. And why I refuse to blame the lower class in any way, because the reality is the wealthy are taking the system for a ride for infinitely more money. And anyone who makes a big deal out of things like food stamps and welfare is a hypocrite.

most here are not blaming the lower class. they are pointing out the obvious: the rich guys you''re complaining about WANT communism. it's free labor. that's why they funded hillary and conversely, why the socialists from the unions are funding bernie. free labor means they can make the entire country into slaves and sell our product to other nations that haven't been toppled yet.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs


Bernie Sanders has a lot of populist talking points. But even if he gets elected, how is he going to initiate them when we have a congress and a senate that is totally privatized by the 1 percent? Its not simply identifying the problem and talking about what should be done, its having the ability to do it. And he wont without the other two branches of govt cooperating.

originally posted by: undo

originally posted by: TheJourney
God I love Bernie. And this is exactly why I get so frustrated at people who make such a big deal out of things like food stamps and welfare. You're gonna get massively more angry and vocal about what amounts to a massively less amount of money, helping the lower class rather than the most wealthy? Unbelievably backwards. And why I refuse to blame the lower class in any way, because the reality is the wealthy are taking the system for a ride for infinitely more money. And anyone who makes a big deal out of things like food stamps and welfare is a hypocrite.

most here are not blaming the lower class. they are pointing out the obvious: the rich guys you''re complaining about WANT communism. it's free labor. that's why they funded hillary and conversely, why the socialists from the unions are funding bernie. free labor means they can make the entire country into slaves and sell our product to other nations that haven't been toppled yet.

We've already established that I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what communism is.

But regardless, there are many who say things like 'those welfare leeches and people taking advantage of the food stamp program are bankrupting this country! We need to make cuts, and/or add stumbling blocks to people receiving these benefits.' And they direct much anger to these people which, even people who do abuse the system, are still lower class, and are still an absolute drop in the bucket, such that it is absurd to express such anger and seriousness towards that issue. And Bernie is here exposing one of multiple reasons why that is the case.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

It's nice he's calling them out. But the problem is that these are the types of people that you have to have to make it to the final two to even be presented to the people to compete for the final prize. Way our system works.

That's why neither trump or Sanders will be the next president. Nice side stories, keep media attention off Bush and Clinton even though Clinton is really messing up that plan. In the end when the time is right Clinton and Bush will magically emerge as the two possible candidates. All the Sanders and trump supporters will complain but in the end anybody will be better than Clinton or Bush and the lesser of two evils vote will take place.

Compassionate conservatism has stopped or fixed these issues, hope and change hasn't fixed these issues and the next president Bush or Clinton won't fix these issues either. It sucks, it really does. But it's our fault.

I say keep pushing Sanders, keep pushing trump. It's provides the same type of amusement as Perot did in the day or Ron Paul more recently. But when the theatrics of the election season are over, when the music stops and the reality emerges that the only two connected or corrupted enough to win are Clinton or Bush, everyone will fall in line and help keep business as usual in Washington. We so need Monty Brewster.

a reply to: openminded2011

While I totally understand that, there's still the Judicial branch. The LAW, the AGOTUS. Congress can't stop an investigation or prosecution.

How any of these companies actually get a tax refund blows my mind.
That is the classic example of a bribe.
Yes, several of them should be in prison.
Not penthouse apartments overlooking Central Park.

"Calling them out", huh? Let me know when they get arrested.

Government knows what side their bread is buttered on.

somebody say "Holy Roller"?
soundcloud.com...
Why nobody likes this 1 is beyond me. Took me like 4 months.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Maybe we aren't hearing of this because a certain loud mouth repbulican candidate shouts louder than the rest.

'Mr Trump, what is your response to allegations of-'

'IT'S THE MEXICANS!'

'In all due respect, you have failed to answer the-

'CHINA!

'Then what about your stance on-'

'IT'S CHINESE MEXICANS I TELL YA!'

'Thanks for our waste of time, Mr Trump.'

'CHINA!'