Why the hate on Israel on ATS . What have they done to YOU.

a reply to: hutch622

His mother's wikipadeia says her ancestors were Jewish.


I wasn't being anti-Semitic.


Anyways you brought up Jewry...

I'm talking about Atheist founded Israel.

originally posted by: bullcat

originally posted by: Mister_Bit

originally posted by: bullcat

originally posted by: Mister_Bit

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: bastion

And i dont understand why you cant grasp the question in the OP .

Child rapists, murderers, ISIS beheadings, beating OAP's, killing and torturing animals.....

Well hey, they did nothing to me.......

No they didn't but if you care so much about it, why are you not there fighting against what you believe in?

Posting on forums changes... what? Nothing.

If all you want is stars.. go to Amazon and buy a sticker set.

hahahahahahaha!!!

Brilliant.... I quote you yourself..

"We have no reason to fight Israel's fight. That is their fight."

You're a real martyr aren't you. Well done *pat on head* now run off and play in the mud.

yes it is, I don't go around waving flags of other countries, it IS their problem, but if you want to rant and harp on about somebody else's problems then it is expected that if you care so much, you should be there defending them in their country no?

Posting on forums about other peoples problems is POINTLESS.

WHAT DOES IT SOLVE? IT becomes an exercise in massage ones ego, in ATS parlance, getting stars. Who cares?

It is NOT MY problem; i am not the one harping and ranting on about their issues.

I don't honestly give a frack about their problems, they are not MY problems. They are not mature enough to solve their problems without anger, fine, in a few generations may be they can, or maybe they cannot, either way, it will cost THEM, it should not cost us.

Take a stand, in order to be involved in other peoples problems, first solve your own, set an example.

You see Norway, Iceland, Switzerland et al are involved in assisting solving these problems because generally they are not at war, sure they have problems of their own but they have solved a lot of their "war like" problems. You never see them invading other countries, occupying them, having bases in other countries, provoking other countries. The biggest problem they have is 1) financial or 2) a sheep escapes from a field causing traffic mayhem.

Well damn, don't you just love humanity.

They all suck, wish they would simultaneously bomb each other. By the way, these millions of beachwear stores around this beach, tax free at that, are just beautiful, we love them, kidding, wish they would take that tacky cheap crap back to Izrahell , sooooo obnoxious in those stores.

a reply to: LoopyLou

you start a thread with a question that applies to no one here,

Then why the replies .

and refuse to answer question on what exactly you hope to achieve , other than people saying Israel has done nothing to them.

I hope to understand why people would hate a country that has done nothing to them .

You ignore reasonable comments and any questions posed to you.

What questions have i not answered apart from your attempts to try somehow to twist things around . Do i have to reply to comments . They are what they are , comments .

If there is no deeper meaning to this thread then yes it's a troll/bait thread purely for your own entertainment.
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I ask a question im a troll . European or African swallow . Thats a troll question .

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: bastion

Get a grip , where have i said you can only object if you have been personally affected . Feel free to quote .

'Why do you hate Israel. What have they done to YOU' was the initial statement you made, then backed up by several other follow up posts ignoring people's reasoning and reverting to 'what have they done to you' aspect.

a reply to: bastion

then backed up by several other follow up posts ignoring people's reasoning and reverting to 'what have they done to you' aspect.

That was my question in the OP wasn't it . Tell me why i would not revert to that .

a reply to: hutch622

What has Hitler ever done to YOU?

What has North Korea ever done to YOU?

What has Jeffery Dahmer ever done to YOU?

Educated criticism of Israel DEBUNKED

a reply to: HighFive

What has Hitler ever done to YOU?

Nothing

What has North Korea ever done to YOU?

Nothing

What has Jeffery Dahmer ever done to YOU?

Nothing .

Educated criticism of Israel DEBUNKED

Please feel free to quote where i have criticed Israel .

originally posted by: Expat888
1. theyre attitude that theyre the chosen ones superior to everyone else.
2. their systematic cold blooded murder of elderly.. disabled.. women .. children..
3. their stealing land that does not belong to them by murdering those that live there.
4. their dictating to other governments and extorting money from them.

Partial list of why am against israel and their crimes against humanity ..

Dont forget the secret nukes they have to destroy the world if they ever have a temper tantrum.

They need to be disarmed, always talking about other countries getting nukes while they sit there with a huge supply of weapons of mass destruction, its rather sickening.

Lets not forget all the war crimes and countless human rights violations like spraying people with real toilet s### from the sewers.

originally posted by: johnwick
a reply to: hutch622

Its easy enough to understand for me.

Their daddy taught them to hate Jews.

At least that is how it seems to me.

They all sound like the racists from the 50s honestly.

They hate isreal for the same things everyone else does but just ignore it in all cases but when the Jews are involved.

The palkues can suicide and bus bomb away and it is fine.

But let isreal close the border to stop it just like all the Arab countries sharing a border with the pallies, oh no the Israelis are evil.

Let the UN put out a report about isreal being the worst in human rights, and women's rights.

They jump all over it proclaiming isreal the worst ever, while completely ignoring everyone else's excesses which make isreal look like saints in comparison.

I just can't.

I will just get another manners violation.

Suffice to say, their obvious bigotry sickens me to no end.

Thus ends my participation in this thread or else I will get a manners violation if I haven't earned one already.

john I do respect your posts and your opinions but in this one I see you self victimizing. According to what you say, only Israel is right and everybody else is wrong (which defies the rules of probability), right? And I don't think people hate jews, they dislike the Zionist government of Israel. (as jews themselves do). As for jews claiming to be chosen people I honestly laugh about. There no many real jews left in the world, descendants of those 12 tribes. The rest are converted to judaism which makes them jews by choice and religion, not by dna. So that argument is just stupid and the joke's on them.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Once again i ask , can you stick to the question in the OP . This was never about bashing Israel . More of an attempt to understand why the hate for a country that has never effected people personally . I never set out to bait , i am not even sure what a troll is but i am sure i am not one . Israel seems to be no different than the US , Saudi Arabia , or pakistan for that matter .

originally posted by: hutch622

That was my question in the OP wasn't it . Tell me why i would not revert to that .

Because ignoring everyone's reasons and only focusing on what Israel did to them doesn't really make any sense and numerous replies show this to be the consensus. When people are met with view or opinions that challenge their own they usually reflect on their own opinions or consider another point of view instead of repeating the initial statement ad infinite.

Nothing to me on a personal note.....But I know how to read their history and their record of human rights abuse's. My empathy lies with the people of Palestine. Just this past week the U.N. declared Israel a bigger human rights abuser that North Korea. That's enough for me. Their a war mongering people with a war on their minds and their minds on war.

a reply to: openyourmind1262

Thank you for a straight out answer . And your views on the human rights this is probably well warranted .

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Once again i ask , can you stick to the question in the OP . This was never about bashing Israel . More of an attempt to understand why the hate for a country that has never effected people personally . I never set out to bait , i am not even sure what a troll is but i am sure i am not one . Israel seems to be no different than the US , Saudi Arabia , or pakistan for that matter .

Dude can you not see that you refuse to see evil where it is?

If this was a thread about one of those other countries we would point to the evil there, but its about Israel. To murder and commit countless crimes against humanity then say hey other countries are commiting crimes against humanity too so no one should see me as bad is just insane. If you dont want to be seen as a villan dont do evil do good, if you want to be seen as a villan then commit crimes against your fellow man.

It doesnt matter how much evil other countries do it wont make the evil of the OPs country any less, what gets me is the attitude that they havent even done terrible inhumane crimes against our fellow human beings. Not a shred of remorse just trying to get people to see them as innocent of the crimes they have been commiting and continue to commit.

a reply to: bastion

numerous replies show this to be the consensus.

And numerous replies dont . People feel the need to justify themselves and fair enough . But why would i respond to that , justification does not answer my question .

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Please feel free to quote where i have said they were squeaky clean .

I do not hate them. However, I do not support them at all. All of this endless war that goes on constatly around them these days, and they are not the victims. The leader of Israel is always banging the war drums to take out this group of the next, and instead of making his country do it, is asking other countries to do it for him. That is playing the world.

If Israel was more for peace, and were no longer the oppressors of the region, as it appears to be, that they really do want peace, and give an equitable terms of such to the others in the region, they would find more support. But when billions of dollars goes to that country, for them to keep up the relentless persecution of one group, when the lessons of their forefathers, who were the actual victims, were lost to the point where the circle is now that they cease being the victims the public's opinion of them cease to be one of sympathy and concern to that of despising them.

Well i really hate to disappoint anyone , but i really need some sleep . Thanks to all and i hope you understand my question . inbox is empty and i will try to answer any more replies tomorrow . African or European swallow .