Why the hate on Israel on ATS . What have they done to YOU.

Hitler didn't do anything to me personally.

Still hate his guts.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Hitler didn't do anything to me personally.

Still hate his guts.

Hater's gonna hate.

I think your response sums up humanity and it's problems.

a reply to: bullcat

And how are Dorothy and the tin man doing .

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: bullcat

And how are Dorothy and the tin man doing .

Didn't you read the script?

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Thank you , sort of . Hitler did not do anything to you . Did Israel .

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: criticalhit

Why did you want to bring every imbecile on ats into one thread together at the same time?

The point of asking a question is to get answers . Perhaps it was a bad idea , i guess foolishly i thought i might have gotten a lot of answer saying . Nothing . The OP question remains .

Yeah I don't want to come off as condescending either, I can get a bit trolly when disgusted and all that...

But, that list is the real...

And I have been on it at times i my life, but i'll say this, i've been around ats a long time now, not just in this form i've come and gone... I have come to understand something looking back through time, periods where I had hate and blame for one group or another have come fairly well aligned with the moments in my life, my life was eating shiz.... lol

It's interesting

The internet leaving a record of your thoughts to go over and analyze over years, a little older a little wiser you Can if you choose to start to see the patterns and if you choose to grow as human being and then look at others and hear what they say and recognize it well... you grow, you learn a lot about self talk, you get enlightened if you don't hide from yourself.

Why do you hate_____?

At some point, and these things hit you like epiphany, I knew that was not an answerable question, like "how do you hug the color blue" the reality is you can't "hate Israel" or "palestine" or "America" it's not a tangible thing, it's not the same thing from day to day, it's JUST HATE that YOU are feeling.

You can say... I hate Netanyahu specifically for the actions of the previous summer

You can say... I hate the fact that there are soldiers in all military who simply follow unconscionable orders

But how does one Hate... a race, or a Nation, sure You can hate the fact that America chose to use Nukes in WW2 but how do you "hate America" ? it is in flux, none of the same politicians are alive virtually none of the soldiers, the culture has changed dramatically since then the ethnic breakdown the clothes the music... "America" is not an actual thing, Jews are not an actual thing, nothing is... it's an intangible, I hate "that moment" that decision" that can be real but not what your asking

So... I gave a list, because when you remove an intangible constantly changing thing because in reality "Nothing" is impossible to Hate... all you have left is the HATE

Then it is up to the person to figure out where the "Hate" really comes from and why they are projecting it so they can stop doing it.

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: sosobad

Hard to answer that . LOL . Did i miss something again .

Wasn't directed at you, was to another member.

originally posted by: hutch622
First let me start by saying i am not pro Israeli , but in the same breath i can say that i hold no ill will towards them . But some here seem to have an almost pathological hatred for them . They seem to be blamed for everything from the creation of Isis to the 2 rabbits banging away in your backyard being a Zionist plot to take over backyards worldwide . This is a question about what they have done to you . Nothing more , nothing less .England stole Australia away from the Aboriginals , the US from the native Americans , New Zealand the Maori s so lets not go down that path . Russia in the Ukraine , China in Tibet and US in Cuba . So unless you are Palestinian and had your house destroyed dont bring the occupation thing up . If they have harmed you in any particular way please speak up . If it is going to be the usual Israel hate , well i have heard that before . This is a genuine question . Play nice people .

Easy,

I hate ANY and ALL oppressive governments/countries....

WE are all human beings, WE are all the same... No body should be oppressing anybody and just because US/UK etc etc did all that in the past doesn't make it right for another country to be doing that now!!

Call me a hippy, whatever.... but that's how I see it...

They are offensive to humanity.

a reply to: hutch622

You may not have said it or meant it , but that is how it comes across, not only to me. What exactly do you mean then?

I don't know your beliefs that's why the words SEEMS LIKE were used.

Your question doesn't apply because I don't hate Israel, I hate what their government is doing.

Let's see

www.google.com...

www.foxnews.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.dailyslave.com...

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

really hate? so if you were given a choice how would you kill him?
to be honest i've never felt anything regarding hitler or the holocaust, but with israel/palestine i've always felt
"danger", "let them suffer themselves" and "destroy them before it's too late".

We have no reason to fight Israel's fight. That is their fight.

They started it, let them finish it.

The best the world can do, is let people resolve their own differences.

Israel is a money pit, a lost cause. A CRY WOLF.

They make a mockery of everybody. They play them for fools.

Since the creation of Israel, there has been nothing but trouble.

The sooner people realise they must face the consequences of their actions, the better.

The less they will poke the bears.

NO MORE BAILOUTS, that includes countries and their problems.

People should stay at home, solve their own problems and differences first before they interfere in other peoples problems.

If somebody wants to wave Israel's flag, go to Israel and do it, if somebody wants to wave America's flag, stay in America and wave it.

Do it in your own homes.

I think the whole problem with hatred toward Israel, not including their actions with Palestinians, is the ideology of hatred stems from the fact that Jewish people are over represented in many industries. The Jewish population in the USA is around 2% and it is declining. They have a very big stake in the control of many industries. To put this in perspective:

22% to 31% of CEOs are Jewish
60% of the people that run Hollywood are Jewish
48% of billionaires are Jewish
75% of the big media is controlled by Jewish people or people with Jewish spouses

To name a few.

The reason so many successful people are Jewish is most Jewish people are raised in affluent communities, they are well educated and it is easy for them to network with their many friends in high places. In other words, they take care of their own.

I felt my response was on topic with the OP's question. Sorry if it isn't.

a reply to: bullcat

At least 1,195 Israelis and 9,128 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

A new study rising from the ashes of a flawed old one estimates a half million Iraqis died as a result of the U.S.-led invasion and occupation.

Numbers dont stack up in my opinion . But the victors get to write the history books . Right

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: criticalhit

Why did you want to bring every imbecile on ats into one thread together at the same time?

The point of asking a question is to get answers . Perhaps it was a bad idea , i guess foolishly i thought i might have gotten a lot of answer saying . Nothing . The OP question remains .

You got an answer loud and clear, it just wasn't what you wanted, so you're ignoring it.You've learnt no one hates the country but rather the government. You've learnt that people have negative opinions on behalf of others even when it doesn't directly affect themselves.

If you got your wish and everyone said .nothing, what would you have learnt from that? What would your retort have been?

originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: bullcat

At least 1,195 Israelis and 9,128 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

A new study rising from the ashes of a flawed old one estimates a half million Iraqis died as a result of the U.S.-led invasion and occupation.

Numbers dont stack up in my opinion . But the victors get to write the history books . Right

You can post all the numbers you wish. Israel's problem is not my problem.

That is up to them to resolve.

I don't go around waving flags in peoples faces.

You can if you wish; i just walk way and ignore it chuckling.

They made their bed, they should sleep in it.

I can say the same about America, and many other countries. Stay at home, solve your problems first before dictating to the world how to solve theirs. Set an example.

Please stick to my question .

originally posted by: bullcat

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Hitler didn't do anything to me personally.

Still hate his guts.

Hater's gonna hate.

I think your response sums up humanity and it's problems.

Nah... Hitler summed up Humanity's problems.

I explained why I hate him...
& Israel for the same reason.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: bullcat

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Hitler didn't do anything to me personally.

Still hate his guts.

Hater's gonna hate.

I think your response sums up humanity and it's problems.

Nah... Hitler summed up Humanity's problems.

I explained why I hate him...
& Israel for the same reason.

Who funded Hitler?

Who is funding Israel?

I think if anybody has to be hated, it is the people that backed them.

a reply to: hutch622

Ok I'll play. Purely to understand the reason for this thread. Other than entertainment for yourself.

NOTHING, I hate the whole of Israel just because. Now what?