US Soldier Does The Unthinkable During Muslim Prayer Time. OMG…

US Soldier Does The Unthinkable During Muslim Prayer Time. OMG…

Can I have a little more proof? All I get searching is this one site and not only that the guy is on base or do we plant american flags in the middle of villages in Afghanistan now.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

How the hell is it wrong on so many levels?


How is it not a popular name in Islam?

How is it racist to call someone Haj when they ask you to call them Haj?


Explain how that is wrong?

a reply to: Turkenstein

Fun?
Fabulous?
Fantastic?
Fortunate?
Forward?

I'm as 'patriotic' as the next guy, but, if this is real, the words I have for this dude would get me banned.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Its a "popular" name because going on HAJJ is obligatory at least once in one's lifetime! But you CANNOT take the name without doing that obligatory thing! Once you have gone, you are then a hajji, and people will call you this name.

Its not racist to call a hajji by this name as it is a pride to those who fulfilled the obligation.

No one said, to my knowledge, that it was racist. The question was asked, how do you know the man even went on hajj? It was asked, what proof do you have that the man did not lie?

That isn't saying a racist thing.. it was a question.


What is WRONG on so many levels is that even sitting here having converted to Christianity I find myself teaching Islam to someone who calls themself a Muslim.

a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

Ya drones haven't killed anyone but their intended target.
In the 13 years and countless bombs, only those that are 'terrorist' have died.
But that was all in just cause right? So can't be considered indiscriminately?

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

You are mistaken.
I know quite a bit about many religions.

I made my decision spiritually before I met my missus, when I was going through personal problems....

I took Shahada after I met her & learned much more due to her knowledge.


& for the record I've never bashed Jews.

Not saying that's what you implied, just clarifying.

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
I'm as 'patriotic' as the next guy but the words I have for this dude would get me banned.

Would it have been better if he would have cranked up some Bo Diddley "who do you love" or something.



Or some of this...

Listen, listen guys

What if the people didn't even know it was the star spangled banner?

I wouldn't know theirs if I heard it.

And what if the people liked it and all sat around a campfire in the evening and sang Kumbayah,

and

"this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal ..."

HUH? HUH?

I am happy all the muslim appologist are posting so I know who they are.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

I never said it wasn't related to Hajj...
I just said its a common name...

I do understand the mix up because of how it came across in my first post on this subject of Pilgrimage...

I was actually refering to people born with the surname Hadji, having the name before pilgrimage due to descendency!


That was my bad for not elaborating.



The word racism popped up or I wouldn't have mentioned it!


As for the man in question, what reason do I have not to believe him?

Because of Taqiya, as T Dawg mentioned?
Well I doubt he was in danger and it wasn't stated if he was Shia so why would I believe he is a liar?


Like I said, if you do think he's a liar, that is your decision.


You're not teaching me anything, you think you are!

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: TDawgRex

This is very true. I am freinds with Afghani's who had to flee the country, and freinds with Afghani's who never left. ALL of the one's I spoke to were so sick and tired of living under threat of death.. and ALL of them I know wanted the US there to get rid of the Taliban.

Its all that I know... I know some don't want the US there anymore because the taliban is still there and they are getting war weary, but no one but the taliban and their sympathisers want the taliban in power.

Life under them was a living hell.

That's the conundrum though! It is the Taliban that is burning down the poppy fields! It is the US troops that our protecting them!

So is there a "war on drugs"? Perhaps those who hate the Taliban are as confused as am I?

It is all a big play being orchestrated by untouchables. I sadly hold out no hope for a peaceful outcome for us useless eaters.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

I did say that it was racist, though I probably should have said degrading to some one Hajji, especially if you didn't know due to ignorance of ones ideology. I've seen plenty of Soldiers call the locals Hajji with having no clue whatsoever. That drove me nuts! My job in the Army was to become a cultural expert on the Area of Operations as best we could. We gathered information, had females on our teams, lived with the locals and grew to trust them and they us, we fought alongside each other many times. Honesty goes a lot farther than any ideology in gaining trust.

So...that was me who said it was racist.

I think I'm just getting old.....if true, then this just shows a lack of respect and bad manners. I hate bad manners with a passion.

I wonder if at all, was there a point he thought this would wind people up? Sorry, but you want to play childish games and think it's funny, expect a reaction.

Not even the sense to think about how many people actions like this can effect.

When i served in S. Armagh, it wasn't always easy to do the hearts and minds thing, but most of us did it...sometimes under the most difficult and emotional of circumstances. Not because we were scared of offending someone, but because we knew it could mean the difference between someone who has never been involved in terrorism, deciding to pick the wrong path.

It's called professionalism.

CX.

a reply to: Sremmos80

It was brought up because this was circulating on fb today and I thoroughly was pleased seeing our soldier playing our national anthem in Afghanistan. The article is new, I don't know about the video or where it originally came from. I assumed it was recent because it was in a recent article, I didn't research the date of the youtube video.

My intent is only to show the side of the coin that's not being represented fairly. On the front page, one of the top threads is about radical Islam not even existing. Over the past 10 years or so we've been kowtowing to make sure we're not offensive to them, and where has it gotten us? Nowhere.

a reply to: Stormdancer777
It doesn't matter. We must jump in on the "Lets bash America" bandwagon.

I agree with Hillbilly. Its distasteful if this guy did what the story perpetuates. Im big on respect personally, and moreso anything, I would find it disrespectful. I however cannot find anything to back up word for word this is how and what exactly happened at such given time etc.

a reply to: Logarock

? not sure what your getting at. before we started bombing in Afghanistan, the taliban were given the option to hand him over.
they refused,and said show us proof and we will try him. during the second week of the bombing campaign, they offer to hand him over to a third country that would not give in to U.S. pressure, if we could show proof he was involved and stop the bombing.

here is just one article about it.
Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over

quotes from article.

Afghanistan's deputy prime minister, Haji Abdul Kabir, told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US.
"If the Taliban is given evidence that Osama bin Laden is involved" and the bombing campaign stopped, "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country", Mr Kabir added.
But it would have to be a state that would never "come under pressure from the United States", he said.

Before the start of the air campaign, the Taliban had demanded evidence of Bin Laden's involvement in the attack and had offered to try him before an Islamic court inside Afghanistan - proposals that the US promptly rejected.

and, and , and

Did you know
" the melody that Francis Scott Key had in mind when he wrote the star spangled banner originate decades earlier as the melody for a song in praise of wine.



The song was written for the Anacreontic Society, probably around 1771. The tune (...) is now thought to have been written "collectively" by members of the society, led by John Stafford Smith (...). The society met every two weeks to get drunk, sing songs and to indulge in some debauchery. Anacreon himself was a Greek poet from about 570BC who was noted for his erotic poetry (...) and his drinking songs.

To Anacreon in Heav'n, where he sat in full glee,
A few sons of harmony sent in a petition
That he their Inspirer and patron would be;
When this answer arriv'd from the Jolly Old Grecian "Voice, fiddle and flute, "no longer be mute,
"I'll lend you my name and inspire you to boot,
"And, besides, I'll instruct you, like me, to intwine
"The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

youtu.be...

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I sent you a message because I gave you some advice - so check your messages.

What can I say.


Thread on Jan, 10 2015 @ 03:19 PM about a new tactic with Islamists strapping bombs to 10 year old girls still on page one.


Thread on Jan, 10 2015 @ 06:33 PM with American soldier playing national anthem creates ruckus on ATS and is 7 pages in.



It is obvious to me that the Islamists are doing it wrong if they want attention. They need to learn to play the guitar.