US Soldier Does The Unthinkable During Muslim Prayer Time. OMG…

a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

I use to call the adhan to prayer when I was a youngster caring for a mosque.

It is a ritual that Muslims do hold sacred because the call to prayer is suppose to remind the Muslim of his sacred duty to God.

This would be an unwelcome distraction, indeed.

But of course the Muslims I know would have merely told the guy nicely to stop... nobody back then would hurt the guy.

My sheik would have took him aside and explained to him the importance of the Adhan( Muslim call to prayer) to the practitioner and I am sure after that through reason and understanding he wouldn’t do that again.

We would then have invited the guy in for a cup of coffee and further taught him about true Islam.

Here is the Muslim call to prayer usually called in a slight melodious fashion:

I bear witness that there is no God but Allah.

I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

Hasten to worship (salat).

Hasten to success.
Prayer is better than sleep.

Allah is greatest.
Allah is greatest.

There is no God but Allah.

originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
a reply to: TDawgRex

Maybe he was lying but he is very old and claims to have done it. He just says to call him Haj so I do. I didn't realize it was racist though. I thought it was a religious thing.

It's a little of both. Followers of Islam may call him that, but it's a no-no for non-believers.

This topic always gets me fired up. I wish people would read the Koran and travel to the ME and have honest conversations with the locals. They would probably come back with a different viewpoint.

a reply to: Sremmos80

She created the entire article based off a video description on YouTube. Based off what I know about colors times and general prayer times I don't think it's likely that it was in the middle of prayer time.

But hey, she's a journalist and she saw it on YouTube so it must be true and now she can write about it.

Got her name out there, didn't it?

a reply to: TDawgRex

Well you said "talk to them, I have"...

Then you generalised by saying "most"...


That's not even a reading comprehension problem on my part...

Either it's you being disingenuous...

Or you're using hyperbole because your point wouldn't stand scrutiny if you didn't.


You will only fool some...

I won't be one of them.

All I see is a man in a desert giving a smokin' hot performance of The Star-Spangled Banner.
There's no evidence for most of the other claims.

I don't believe one should disturb a place of prayer, but some radical Muslims believe it's alright to pray in any public place, and that's fine, as long as they don't demand that the world around them should come to a stop.

I feel very sorry for the people of Afghanistan, and the horrors meted out to them, from the Soviet invasion, to the women having to dress in burkas under the Taliban and the war between the Americans and the various Islamist factions.

Then again sensitivities go in all directions, and it also wasn't very nice for Islamists to burn the US flag in London on the anniversary of 9/11 (I think the scene was in the documentary "My Brother the Islamist").

In our town 20 000 Somalian Muslims moved into an area, and while I've never had a problem with them, they did blast their call to prayer in the wee hours of the morning from an unofficial mosque, thus waking up entire non-Muslim suburbs.
It took a long time of complaining to the city to get them to stop.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but all I see is a guy playing his guitar in the desert.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: TDawgRex

Lol I'm not an apologist for nothing especially the Taliban...
I'm a just a sometimes humble and all faithful Muslim...


I have however seen you're idiocy in confusing the name Haj with the Hajj pilgrimage...

Or you less than stellar efforts to explain the true meaning of Taqiya...


You stick with ReligionOfPeace.com...

I'll continue to smile at your efforts to sow discord.

That's golden stuff right there. You must be a writer for "State of Myths"!

sorry guys carry on, some days I think of you as my children,

I need a nap

originally posted by: borntowatch

There are two evils in Afghanistan
The fundamental evil of Islam and then there is the fundamental attitude that the US is right and the rest of the world is wrong
Those sorts of acts cause retribution

Patriotic? he is in an invading force in another peoples country, its not patriotic, its arrogance.

Nah, arrogance is allowing the planer and financial vacillator of the WTC deal to run military operations in your country and not expect someone to come over and kick your azz for doing so.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

The name Hajji (often Haj for short) is given BECAUSE someone actually went on hajj..

en.wikipedia.org...

Your a wonderfully knowledgeable Muslim.

Y'know, what? If it isn't proved that this guy's awful rendition of 'Star-Spangled Banner', ala Jimi Hendrix, was actually played during a Muslim prayer session, I believe we have all been manipulated to show our silly sides.

I hate being manipulated. Worse, I hate myself for falling for it. Time to stand in a corner with a hat on saying 'dunce'.

On the other hand.
There is something we NEVER did as a Muslim community

It’s in the Quran and Hadith to NEVER indulge in and many Muslims are guilty of it.

The Quran clearly says:

PRAY NOT TO BE SEEN OF MEN!

Those Muslims showing off, disturbing people in the middle of the street BY PRAYING are out of line...showing off their piety

Its nothing but vanity and or ignorance since the religion cleary dictates

PRAY NOT TO BE SEEN OF MEN

THEY ARE SHOWING OFF

No one is that pious

Also it’s against, if not the spirit, the letter, of the law of Islam NOT TO MAKE YOUR RELIGION A BURDEN ON OTHERS

originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
a reply to: AreUKiddingMe

What an ass.

FLAME ME!

That wasn't the F word I wanted to extend to you.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

If you don't even know why someone is called Haj then how can we believe you when you say you have spoken to people who have fled these areas and you know exactly what its all about?

I am sorry but that needs called out..

a reply to: Logarock

what's sad part about it we wouldn't have gone into Afghanistan, if the taliban would have given bin laden up.
then when we went in they tried to make a deal, they were told no.

a reply to: TDawgRex

Ad hominem I see...


Lack of debate now you know that the name Hadji or Haj is a popular name in Islam & is in no way racist especially when the Muslim himself asks you to call him that...

Can't go back on the fact you said "most" either...

Give yourself one of those claps.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Do you seriously need me to teach you the religion you profess? That is just so wrong on so many levels charlie.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

if i recall right, when you first joined here you stated in a thread the only reason your doing the Muslim thing is because of a girl. you made the statement you didn't know much about religion in one of the jew bashing threads.

i could be mistaken, but i seem to remember a dialogue between you and me about the jews then.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Unlike them, we Don't indiscriminately kill people. We have a pretty good idea and shoot the ones shooting at us. THEY, on the other hand, like to go to the markets and malls and airplanes where there are random people they can blow up to get their point across.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Logarock

what's sad part about it we wouldn't have gone into Afghanistan, if the taliban would have given bin laden up.
then when we went in they tried to make a deal, they were told no.

Oh sure. What kind of deal? Like I got this land in FLA.....prime real estate.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

I never said I did speak to anyone....

You made that assumption...


However if your asking & not telling I worked with an Iraqi who lost his entire family....

& he was the kindest man I've ever met.

He never discussed how or why with me, but word did get around that they were killed in front of him.

Broke my heart when I found that out.


I'm aware of the name debacle you're perpetuating, there are also a lot of people named Hadji at birth...

I don't see how it's relevant to call the Guy a liar using Taqiya when Cagliostro didn't even expand on whether he was Shia or not!!!

Why should I assume the man was lying?

That's yours and T Dawgs gripe not mine.