President informed that Obamacare may not be affordable

a reply to: JimNasium

Sorry for your injuries.
What you pay for a family of three....Detroit retirees were offered more than $1200 per month for insurance.....more than most make in a month.

Since all Detroit retiree healthcare was totally cancelled in March 2013....they have been forced onto unACA until they reach Medicare age.
So...after the monthly premiums....and horrendous deductibles, few if any can afford drugs or visits to the doctor....

The way I figure, Jimmy Carter should be paying for the Obama Presidential Library. People didn't think it possible to have a worse president/presidency than Carter. Guess we have seen there is no limit on how poor performance can actually be.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
The way I figure, Jimmy Carter should be paying for the Obama Presidential Library. People didn't think it possible to have a worse president/presidency than Carter. Guess we have seen there is no limit on how poor performance can actually be.

I think we'll see the limit sometime in the next two years.

a reply to: stormbringer1701

If a president comes along worse than Obama, that will be the president that is remembered for provoking a revolt.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Wait what?!

originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

originally posted by: sirlancelot


Ted Cruz doesn't look like such a right wing nut job know!

Ted Cruz always looks like a right wing nut job every time he opens his trap. One never needed Ted Cruz or his ilk to point out what an epic fail Obama-care was from the start. Having lived in countries with socialized medicine, I can honestly say Obama-care doesn't even live in the same ball park. Obama-care is nothing more than a federally mandated extortion racket by the medical industrial complex. It did not aim to make healthcare universal, but force people to buy something they couldn't afford in the first place.

Obamacare did nothing to address the real problems with healthcare in this country: ridiculously sky high costs beyond the reach of most people, the influence of big pharma and the over-medication of America, and the problem with the declining health in this country. You didn't need an idiot Like Ted Cruz to point this out.

The Only reason it made it past congress is because congress if full of out of touch morons getting paid by lobbyists to pass it.

Exactly and Ted Cruz was one of the few that tried to buck the system and make a stand against this piece of crap legislation.

originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
If this is true, he has some explaining to do to the American people.
This was supposed to save us money. $2500 per family if I recall correctly.
He either lied or was stupid enough to believe his own propaganda.

I know that was rhetorical...but...this ass of a president didn't care about you, insurance or health care. It was all about saying "I did it". The fact that it is crap, worthless and a rape of the American people doesn't matter to this POS.

So get rid of the one thing covered that no one can pay for themselves? What's the point of it then? Anyone
who works can pony up enough to see an MD if they have to. Without hospital coverage it's worse than useless. a reply to: peskyhumans

originally posted by: StoutBroux

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: peskyhumans

IMO making insurance mandatory will only increase the cost of care - just look at car insurance.

Exactly. This is why the insurance companies was pushing for the ACA to go through because the individual mandate gave them a license to steal. This is why so many peoples policies were canceled so that when people started a new policy they could jack up the rates.

Give me a break Buster, you were all for this and Obama while many of us were screaming NO! NO! NO!

NOW you're on the anti ACA band wagon. Wow, just wow.

The reason they HAVE to now say it's unaffordable is because it never was but the now they can't hide behind the unknown. It's known now that 50 million people didn't sign up. The 9 million or so that did can't afford the whole program that still pays for the low income to receive medical care like they were prior to ACA. Also, many middle income persons who were insured prior to the ACA and aren't now because they can't afford medical insurance. The whole thing was a failure from before the beginning of the POTUS' signature on the bill.

Yup...and all the weak bleeding hearts will stand behind Obama anyway. Just watch. They don't care if we are being F'ed in the A. Just impeach the ass.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

You are going to get horror stories but no one knows your situation and it had lots of variables.

And Obama and the Dems own that! They OWN the horror stories and no BS about "only a few" matters when you are one of the few. If they left well enough alone...left it fair...left it in the hands of the people, at least they wouldn't be race/income baiting to screw over those who actually try to make America...America. Truth is...Obama isn't the problem. Everyone who voted for him is the problem. Idiots.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96
It's not socialized and if your refuse to compare it to other countries then Idk what to say.

There are plenty of examples of what it actually is and the aca does not fit the mold

For Christ's sake...get off your soapbox and understand that when they say socialism they mean the government taking money/income from the people to pay for those who don't/can't/aren't working for it. Socialism = theft...in many people's eyes. And to be honest...if you will...the real purpose is to make people dependant upon the government, give the government a threat over the people and to make the government seem like they are doing something for people (mostly to gain votes) when all they are doing is stealing from some, to pay for others. Paint it anyway you like...it still smells like crap.

a reply to: sirlancelot

The only reason Ted Cruz opposed Obama-care was because it was a Democrat idea. If his nut job friends had created the bill and renamed it "Jesus-care" or something, he'd be cheer-leading the bill. Ted Cruz is the same grade of clueless opportunistic douche-bag that Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and other "liberals" are. He just wears different team colors.

Not that it made any difference, because the Supreme Court also supported this travesty. Real opposition and real change never start in D.C., so it's foolhardy to expect this to be any different.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Socialism is not stealing, it is the willingness to give for the greater good

Oh, and to point out:

Obama-care has so far had little impact on me either way. Before Obama-care, my health insurance sucked and was expensive, and excessively confusing and complicated insurance wise. That is, when I was lucky enough to have a job that offered it. After Obama-care, health-insurance and health-care is still unaffordable, still over-complicated, still sucks, and I instead rely on the VA for medical.

Change? Where? Same shizz. Different shizzle master.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Socialism is not stealing, it is the willingness to give for the greater good

CORRECTION: socialism is the willingness to use the force of government to give OTHER people's stuff to the "greater good."

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Socialism is not stealing, it is the willingness to give for the greater good

It's the massive ultra authoritarianism that works.

a reply to: stosh64

Car accidents can definitely do their damage. I was speaking about healthcare, your situation required good trauma care, which it sounds like you didn't get.

I'm going to assume that either yours or someones auto coverage took care of much of your medical costs. Western medicine is excellent at trauma care, not so much when it comes to a persons long term health, which I believe is the greatest costs to our society.

If I am in an accident and injured I have coverage. This type of insurance I carry, as does most every one. If we were a healthier nation and encouraged prevention we would not be looking at the healthcare mess that we are.

Communism is what is really needed end the materialism that divides humanity once and for all.

originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Oh, and to point out:

Obama-care has so far had little impact on me either way. Before Obama-care, my health insurance sucked and was expensive, and excessively confusing and complicated insurance wise. That is, when I was lucky enough to have a job that offered it. After Obama-care, health-insurance and health-care is still unaffordable, still over-complicated, still sucks, and I instead rely on the VA for medical.

Change? Where? Same shizz. Different shizzle master.

you must be among the lucky ones then. i have a good friend that just left what had been a decent paying full time teaching job in the US, because he could no longer afford to live on his pay thanks to the UN-affordable care act. he has just moved to Canada because at least there he can afford to live on what he will make supply teaching (part time) due to not having to pay the outrageous obummercare premiums and deductibles.

also i have talked to a few US ex-pats who did not want to leave the US. but felt they had no choice but to move abroad because they could no longer afford to live in the US on their pensions and savings thanks to Obummercare. this might actually be a good thing for many country's economies, having these ex-pats move in and bring their pensions, retirement, and life savings with them to add to the local economies. probably not so good for the US ecconomy having all this money leave the country.