Buddha rebuked a Demiurge god, who thought he was, The One True God.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Chill out…I deemed you were somewhat disrespectful of India with the dysentery crack that's all.

I mirrored that crack regarding India and dysentery with America and aids.

If I misinterpreted your India crack then excuse me.

With all due respect I personally am not a fan of Osho, btw.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: veteranhumanbeing

Chill out…I deemed you were somewhat disrespectful of India with the dysentery crack that's all.
I mirrored that crack regarding India and dysentery with America and aids.
If I misinterpreted your India crack then excuse me.
With all due respect I personally am not a fan of Osho, btw.

I was QUOTING Osho (in the worst way); (he started it) as it was HIS beloved knowledge of INDIA that you misinterpreted as mine.

a reply to: Emeraldous

Apocalypse!

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I understand all of that bro; Ive studied that going back decades, I am an Integral Metaphysician….I know all about Buddhist and Vedanta nonduality teachings

I thought I would share another perspective but like many you seem to only vibe on your own harp

That all right…

i had no idea metaphysicians were a thing. sounds like a paradoxical profession to be honest.

originally posted by: dominicus

Christians/Jews/Muslims.....that last line sound familiar to you?

Yeah, I get it. Your god is bigger and badder than their god, and your god can beat their god up. I propose an arm wrestling match to settle it for once and for all, just whose god can beat whose god up. Maybe you can get ESPN to televise it worldwide, so there's no more doubt.

Mien Gott!

It's not bad enough that the ones claiming to follow Abraham are having food fights over which kids daddy likes better - Now the Buddhists have to come along and say "doesn't matter - my god can beat your god up anyhow!"

Sweet Jesus! Someone stop this world - I want to get off of it. I don't wanna be part of "humanity" any more.

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: LABTECH767

The god of the old testament is not a different person,

On the contrary... they are complete opposites

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Lets see what John has to say about that...

5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

God created the light, there was no darkness before the light therefore he also created the darkness by creating the light so I thoroughly disagree with you on that point, it is the same god though the old testament is riddled with darkness and evil which is originated in man not god.
If you had never seen or had eye's you would have no concept of light or darkness and the analogy between good and evil would make no sense to you, we liken evil to darkness because much evil is done in secret and like adam naked in the garden he was ashamed of his nakedness so it will be for all of us when we stand before our judge, more so they whom have willingly misguided other's.

a reply to: nenothtu

t's not bad enough that the ones claiming to follow Abraham are having food fights over which kids daddy likes better - Now the Buddhists have to come along and say "doesn't matter - my god can beat your god up anyhow!"

Buddha didn't teach to start wars over gods, so comparing things The Buddha was believed to say as "my god can beat your god up anyhow!" is not accurate.

Buddhist may have the best record regarding coercive religion but they will argue that their religion is better than yours just like any partial religionist, though not by threatening eternal hell for you like an evangelical Christian fundie or chopping your head off like an ISIS nut.

Ive had many religious disputes with Buddhists their not all light and happiness believe me.

But Buddha did leave a more sober legacy regarding tolerance. He would advocate people keep their religion if it worked for them and just try his path as an experiment something the western dogmatists would never do.

a reply to: nenothtu

Sweet Jesus! Someone stop this world - I want to get off of it. I don't wanna be part of "humanity" any more.

Ha!! See if that attitude and frame of thinking prevents from reincarnating.....good luck.

Buddhism doesn't work on a "God belief system." It's more so a, get Enlightenment and transcend all Gods path.

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: nenothtu

nenothtu:
Sweet Jesus! Someone stop this world - I want to get off of it. I don't wanna be part of "humanity" any more.

dominicus: Ha!! See if that attitude and frame of thinking prevents from reincarnating.....good luck.
Buddhism doesn't work on a "God belief system." It's more so a, get Enlightenment and transcend all Gods path.

You could disavow any knowledge of Karma as a possible; (never to incarnate again) (unfortunately near impossible/part of the system dynamic even if a totally innocent westernized Christian). If one were to in cowardice, 'bail' you will most assuredly come back living in this circumstance: birthed by your worst enemy (someone murdered you and now is their child) (and that is the most simple of scenarios; as most are even more arcane). Karma beats its own rhythm; you are just the fall guy that supplies the instrument.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

doesn't matter. Can be transcended, the system can be beaten and when that happens, soveriegnty is re-established and there is no coming back

a reply to: dominicus

Interesting, but how do you tie this to Christianity?

Most interpretations of the Christian nature do not demand blind servitude, but rather faith that a God exists and forgives the sin that would send them to a hell.

Furthermore, the character that was sent as redemption is quoted as saying,"Be wise as serpents, yet gentle as sheep [sic]."

-FBB

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: vethumanbeing

doesn't matter. Can be transcended, the system can be beaten and what is, soveriegnty is re-established and there is no coming back

There is no hope for the dark (given IT/THE negative all chances for redemption; SO stubborn and unreasonable). It will be transcended regardless; its running for its life right now (time is tick-toking) and there is no escape; as the frequency of this planet rises will cause this parasite to jump ship.

a reply to: LABTECH767

That was so perfectly said.

When people called Buddha God, he denied it, from what I've read.
But when people called Christ God, he did not deny it.

originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: nenothtu

t's not bad enough that the ones claiming to follow Abraham are having food fights over which kids daddy likes better - Now the Buddhists have to come along and say "doesn't matter - my god can beat your god up anyhow!"

Buddha didn't teach to start wars over gods, so comparing things The Buddha was believed to say as "my god can beat your god up anyhow!" is not accurate.

The OP pretty much spells out Buddha having told some god - one which the OP is comparing to the one of the Abramaics - to basically "go to hell" i.e. Buddha "put him in his place", which in most jurisdictions are "fightin' words".

So his god can tell another god to go to hell, can put him in his place, but can't beat him?

That's some testicular fortitude, right there!

a reply to: nenothtu


Sounds like more of a test tickle to me.Sorry!

originally posted by: dominicus
a reply to: nenothtu

Sweet Jesus! Someone stop this world - I want to get off of it. I don't wanna be part of "humanity" any more.

Ha!! See if that attitude and frame of thinking prevents from reincarnating.....good luck.

thanks, I'll do that. Mind if I get back to you later on the results?

Buddhism doesn't work on a "God belief system." It's more so a, get Enlightenment and transcend all Gods path.

So it's a "make yourself above the gods" system? that's about all that can be taken from "transcend". Isn't that a bit like lifting yourself by your own boot straps? If that works for you, then more power to ya, and I'm happy for you. Just one thing - please don't strike me with lightning or anything like that when you get there. I'm just a man, cut me some slack.

a reply to: FriedBabelBroccoli

Most interpretations of the Christian nature do not demand blind servitude, but rather faith that a God exists and forgives the sin that would send them to a hell.

Because there is a Mystical version of Christianity as well, that speaks of ego death, spiritual rebirth, and transcendence. Actually, I've experienced these things myself when I was 25, but that's neither here nor there: " 5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

Many modern day Christian Mystics, when they speak to Buddhists, share in permanent experiences of detachment and transcendence.

Also in Apocalypse of James, Jesus tells James about the traps in the afterlife:

"And in particular three of them will seize you - they who sit (there) as toll collectors. Not only do they demand toll, but they also take away souls by theft. When you come into their power, one of them who is their guard will say to you, 'Who are you or where are you from?' You are to say to him, 'I am a son, and I am from the Father.' He will say to you, 'What sort of son are you, and to what father do you belong?' You are to say to him, 'I am from the Pre-existent Father, and a son in the Pre-existent One.'"

Food for thought.


a reply to: nenothtu

thanks, I'll do that. Mind if I get back to you later on the results?

twas fodder for da cannon. We're all in the same boat trying to figure things out. For me, I really strongly feel that Enlightenment with the roots of the subconscious uprooted, free's you from here.

So it's a "make yourself above the gods" system? that's about all that can be taken from "transcend". Isn't that a bit like lifting yourself by your own boot straps?

No, nothing like that. It's more like someone asking you if your Republican or Democrat, and you answer, "neither" cause you see through the illusions of the broken system, and refuse to partake in it, and if you do, its merely to bring to other peoples attention that its a scam.

If that works for you, then more power to ya, and I'm happy for you. Just one thing - please don't strike me with lightning or anything like that when you get there. I'm just a man, cut me some slack.

I want you, everyone on ATS, the whole globe to join me in becoming non-returners.....minus all ego of course

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: LABTECH767

That was so perfectly said.

When people called Buddha God, he denied it, from what I've read.
But when people called Christ God, he did not deny it.

Sure he did, in an off hand manner; he always proclaimed himself to be the SON of the Father as we all are; (worthy mouthpieces to expand an argument).

a reply to: LABTECH767

God created the light, there was no darkness before the light therefore he also created the darkness by creating the light so I thoroughly disagree with you on that point, it is the same god though the old testament is riddled with darkness and evil which is originated in man not god.

You should try to pay attention to the entire verse, not just a part of it...

it says "I create evil"... Meaning it originated with this so called god...

If you had never seen or had eye's you would have no concept of light or darkness and the analogy between good and evil would make no sense to you, we liken evil to darkness because much evil is done in secret and like adam naked in the garden he was ashamed of his nakedness so it will be for all of us when we stand before our judge, more so they whom have willingly misguided other's.

Don't bother with the cheap jabs behind thinly veiled wisdom...

I only point towards what I know is correct... IF I am wrong, I believe in a Father who will forgive unlike this god of the OT

But also remember "the path is narrow and there are few that find it"... and most of the world claims to be Christian...

Thus... it is HARDLY a narrow path...