Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: penroc3

Yeah, same here, in regards to periods of (rare) synchronicity so all encompassing it was like reality came alive and was talking to me directly via electronic media and if no electronics available, then nature... and that has happened when stone cold sober and a few times w witnesses.

It's just difficult parsing what's "spiritual" phenomena vs modern (or ancient) technology based... or if there's a real difference a la A C Clarke's maxim (as too much of this thread explored, heh).

So dunno what the source is: RKs, spirits, self, gods ... unknown? But that phenomena exists I have no doubt due to my experiences... and I've never been diagnosed as psychotic or schizophrenic, or had anyone suggest I get looked at, for that matter.

But it is odd that it comes in "waves" and then recedes ... I wonder if careful notes are taken, if some energetic correlation could be mapped? I ponder that IF consciousness is the primary medium of our reality, then our dreamed up tech could interface within the parameters of this reality and such supernatural effects could be based on advanced technologies... like RKs allegedly have.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I've related ,my own milder dream oddness, with musings over chicken and egg - as in am I too impressionable? (yeah, sometimes, I'm sure) or real SES interaction ? or the standard dimensional/spiritual new age dogmas?

And the number of other folks PMing me about their dream / waking oddness they told me they were satisfied was RK sourced after corresponding with A... they struck me as honest, too.

Those reports, more so than the things I related in this thread about my own dreams, really just makes me wonder if A's final accounting was in fact, fact.

Undoubtedly, if true, heh, there was subtext and things that couldn't be broached... but the simplest answer is it was based in fact, as it was reportedly supported testimony.

But enough years go by with no verification, and the suspicion one was immersed in self delusion will arise.. . but every time I go over all the supportive accounts, it puts me right back to "wow."

So, RKs, if you exist and are reading along (while playing a drinking game where when someone doubts the narrative you have to take a shot)... can you give us poor dirt-bound brethren unambiguous re-affirmation of existence? The faith is being tested, heh.

a reply to: Baddogma

i am a fan of terence mckenna(no drug use here, well after collage) and he talks about the logo's, and archetypes.




i think a lot of it does come from inside, in a psychic sense.


technology could seem like magic to us if sufficiently advanced.

a reply to: Baddogma

First, I’m not trolling you (since BASS made his intentions clear).

I am as befuddled as everyone else as to the narrative.

The Valee narrative is a cop out.

Explain this real world to us or not. If you shove it off then you get the run around.

D@mn later

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

i expect a visit as im dying with a G-D explanation, lol.

i think valee has one part of the puzzle, no doubt. but we are still missing like 200 pieces of a 250 piece puzzle. and that is being generous

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Yeah, I trust you, too ... but I'm a trusting soul given a little personal interaction, heh. And yeah, in this case, the control narrative IS a cop out, along with the A being an "operation" to get UFO nuts to believe what? Why?

So ... IF a psy-op, or a simple online lie, then what was the purpose over 7 years? Why deny the well crafted govt cover story of aliens, ruining the perfect set up for a fake narrative in that meme?

Strategically and in general, it being a lie just doesn't make sense.

Unfortunately, it being truth doesn't either, heh...

here's something for you guys ; )

If looking between two thoughts is the door to the between world. (meditation is this)

For instance "I am here" is three thoughts: the "I" and the "am" and the "here".

What lays between them? that would be the " ". The between world.

So, What lays between atomic particles such as neutrons, electrons and protons?

A carbon atom has six protons, six electrons, six neutrons.

Take those "particles" away and you have " ".

That would be the subatomic between world one might say.

There is the physics we know and the physics we don't know.

Both conventional physics and quantum physics deal with the "particles".

Look between the thoughts . . .

Look between the particles . . .

I couldn't share concepts of physics with the deceased Dalnegorsk Orb UFO because I was looking with the bias of the particle view where "she" exists within the between the particles world.

The physics is entirely different in that world. Just one of those things one picks up in the mind of a machine . . . . .

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Carbon atom = 666 ; )

a reply to: Baddogma

psy-ops to see how far and wide it would spread and maybe uncover a secret community of users here who talk thru PM and not on the forums, and not talking about aliens...


maybe there was something being spoken about by users in certain areas of ATS that AFOSI, NSA etc wanted to get to the bottom of or to see if there was a leak.

or maybe and academic practice of a psy-op

ETA:

there are a few users who don't post here anymore(publicly) that were significant users

a reply to: penroc3

Could be, but again, why blow the narrative with the far out stuff and not just pin it on Roswell and aliens?

But sure, could be b.s with a whole bunch of confirmation bias and b.s. from the supportive net personalities, or they might've been constructs, too as I don't know them in RL.

But the little correlations and supportive personal elements ... could also be truth. ; )

Back where we started... heh

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Ah, thanks, once again WITNT, you dole out (alleged for those sticklers) valuable info/technique for nothing more than helpfulness.

That post enabled me to go to the "zone" for a moment. I'll have to get serious and make some time to explore it as I've wanted to for decades.

First hand info, is, after all, the best.

a reply to: Baddogma

the triangles exist. i have never seen miles long craft but triangles nonetheless with extreme 'flight' characteristics.

i say 'flight' because it isn't aerodynamic flight as the public understands it.


i think you hit the nail on the head, IF there were users here with strange sightings they would self identify themselves, and if it was a op then you can get their i.p and watch these people and see what they share with others.

i think there was allot of truth in his story, but the best way to get someone to believe a lie you have to sandwich it between two truths

a reply to: yuppa

Possibly a new and enlightening form of entertainment in the final frontiers.

originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

i've had some strange 'dreams' and at the time it is REAL easy to add more value to them then is deserved.

i have a reoccuring dream where im with my family driving during dusk and we are headed towards what in my dream i understand to be a fair. when we get there it is dark and there are people milling about and i notice 5.56 shells on the ground and i realize that something is off.

shortly after a girl comes up to me and says they are coming are you ready to go? and shortly after a uniformed air force office escorts me to the middle of the field with others and their escorts, and all of a sudden a 'door' opens in the field that looks like a block of light in the dark night.

my escorts walks me thru the door and i am greeted by a female gray in a flight suit with pinkish markings on it and we are on another planet, it is a warm beach area.

the female gray doesnt freak me out, in fact i know this woman and am happy to see her. she gives me a tour of the new things going on.

a few other stranger things happen and i am walked back to the door to my family

i wake up.

i have had this dream a few times and the planet and facilities are always the same and the gray woman is always there waiting for me to talk and walk around.

strange VIVID dream, but its so subjective at the end of the day

just because its happening in your head does not mean it isnt real.

a reply to: Baddogma

I wrote a lengthy reply and got hit by the gremlins. Post vanished so I'll summarise the gist.

W European folklore has stories of individuals sleeping out on a hill one evening. You'll recognise it. They are woken by little dancing people and follow them to a room full of riches where banqueting and merriment is going down. They dance till dawn and steal a memento (often gold). Bump. They wake up and can feel the gold in their fist or pocket. Only when they examine it, it's mud or charcoal.

It's analogous to what we're discussing imo. People with the *answer* soon find they are only clutching mud; the gold is an illusion. Furthermore, the experiencers are like the person on the hill. They get downgraded in their society for telling their story. It's a reason why we should be doubtful of those bearing 'gold' and cautious about the stories we tell.

I wrote a thread, years ago, about people who have met their ends by committing to their own beliefs or the claims of others. It was a cautionary romp through a few decades of ufology and channeling that explains why I agree with your point, 'careful not to lead anyone astray with possibly false notions.' Death by UFO!!

a reply to: Kandinsky

Now what were you thinking when the gremlins hit the reset button?

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Pretty much what was written above. The wi-fi disappeared and when it came back the post tab had gone.

Taken away by the Glitchy Gremlins of the Gone-Beyond.

a reply to: Kandinsky

I just wondered, when the gremlins strike here I pause and contemplate. Then write something softer and more appropriate.

So, and this is niggling me.

In the story, what would happen if they ignorred the gold?

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Well firstly, I think the analogy speaks to a wide area of the strange encounter reports and stories. Instead of gold, people who were met by 'spacemen' were told superficially real things. For example, the visitors said they were from Mars, Venus, 'behind the sun' and 'light miles' from Earth. Essentially the messages were gold in the moment and turned to charcoal back in our world. Darker versions featured thematic warnings of imminent planetary doom - not one came true. Again, charcoal and misdirection.

Who's to say what happened to those who danced and took nothing away? Perhaps they left their memories in the halls of the little people? Have you heard the similar folkloric tales about food offerings? It was said that to eat food in the Elsewhere was to stay forever. Perhaps those who took nothing were likewise confined to the Elsewhere for reasons we'll never know.

Myths and folklore are fascinating brain work-outs.

a reply to: Kandinsky

If you can't trap a human with gold then knowledge (false or otherwise) will do the trick. I'm with you there Kandinsky.

I know a little of the japanese folklore and find it can open doors. Of food I have heard references but the subject never came up in practice.

One that intrigues me is the folklore of changlings where a fairy is swapped for a human child. Why would they do that? To put one of their own into this world sounds cruel.

But what if the fairy folk find it difficult to work in this world?

Just as we find it perhaps impossible to open a flower bud with our mind, fairy fingers do so with ease. And for a fairy to move a stone to another location is perhaps impossible yet we can pick up a stone and place it as we choose.

I find the idea of mutual intellegent cooperation between worlds intriguing.

a reply to: Kandinsky

people dancing and partying with fairies....or gnomes aka little people.

i'd rather not know, but then again i think i might really follow just to see what's what. just no eating i want to come home eventually.

it is funny kidnappers/tricksters have always been around in the dark places humans fear.