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originally posted by: Drinthearctic
a reply to: ikonoklast
I keep coming back to this site daily, always hoping that the trend line starts dipping downward.
I really hope that will be the case as the surge in reinforcements arrives and the much needed beds are set up to isolate the sick where the risk of transmision is reduced. Keep up the great charting Iconoclast, a lot of people are counting on you to keep them updated.
originally posted by: soficrow
a reply to: ikonoklast
The few numbers that are coming don't look real.....
originally posted by: Drinthearctic
Keep up the great charting Iconoclast, a lot of people are counting on you to keep them updated.
originally posted by: fwkitziger
I watched the Discovery channel news report from Liberia Friday night, utterly depressing, watching a little boy my son's age sitting on a becket naked in a shack "hospital", no one coming too close to him, no comforting him, no consoling, just letting him die from the symptoms, all alone. That's the story behind these lines.
originally posted by: soficrow
The few numbers that are coming don't look real. Maybe the nations are suppressing info to reassure the world and protect their economic futures.
originally posted by: fwkitziger
Each of the countries reporting to the WHO have used a very consistent methodology, otherwise we would see a very crooked line, unless you believe they are all in cahoots and reporting the projection together, highly unlikely. By not speculating, using the same methodology, and just sticking to the facts as they know them, however incomplete, they are giving us a very valuable tool. Because of this we know the actual doubling rate and we will know when efforts to curb the spread are working. Icon has always talked about "reported cases" and mostly leaves the total actuals to the speculators....bring your own factor to the party depending on how deep you think the sampling rate is.
originally posted by: Micksy
I have just watched an interesting interview with the chief of MSF. At around 18:00 - 18:30 she says something along the lines of "We think we have about a 20% visibility on the numbers." Very scary. If this were the case, then we are at least two doubling cycles ahead of where your graphs predict and the whole chart would need to be brought forwards by over a month.
www.youtube.com...
I notice some of your projections are drawn from different start dates - I wonder, is there a way of weighting the line of best fit by case numbers? In this way, less emphasis would be given to the curve at the beginning of the outbreak, and it would remain current as the case load increases. Not sure how that would be done, or if you're doing it in some way already.
Thanks for continuing the work you are doing. I look forwards to you being very wrong.
originally posted by: 59demon
Ikonoklast, what happens to the synchronicity of your charts when compared with the prediction HERE combined with THIS nugget of information?
Does this correlate still with your models or are things more grim according to the WHO and CDC?
According to the links we now have a good chance of 550,000 to 1.4 million infections by late January and a 70 percent fatality rate. Before it was 550,000 infections at 50 percent fatal.
This is getting out of hand.
As of Monday, the United Nations health organization reported that out of a total of 5,864 confirmed and probable cases, 2,811 deaths have resulted.
"The true numbers of cases and deaths are certainly higher," the authors wrote. "There are numerous reports of symptomatic persons evading diagnosis and treatment, of laboratory diagnoses that have not been included in national databases, and of persons with suspected Ebola virus disease who were buried without a diagnosis having been made."
From the perspective of deaths, it's not quite clear to me where they got the 70% figure all of a sudden. The death rate and the doubling rate vary per country depending on things like how well they are controlling the spread and how well they are treating those infected. That 70% figure would fit for the areas where the death rate is higher, but not for all areas currently affected. Or maybe they are expecting the death rate to go up as the number of infections overwhelms the healthcare systems even more.