Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Destinyone

I didn't hear that.

First question from first reporter.

Des

a reply to: Destinyone

See my edit.

originally posted by: Destinyone

originally posted by: ikonoklast
a reply to: Destinyone

Des (and all), I thought you might want to know that I have updated the charts/graphs showing the rate this outbreak is spreading at. They are posted here:

Ebola - my visual charts & projections based on WHO data

Damn Ikon. Great work. CDC should hire you...or at least read the ATS threads with your work in them...

Thanks, Des, but I'm pretty sure the CDC already knows this. They have all the data I have, and more. But I don't think they wanted to put it in charts like this because it makes it too obvious at a glance what the real situation is.

My daughter told me today that a friend of hers is working on her PhD and wrote her thesis on a possible cure for Ebola. Her friend tried to get a job with the CDC to work on research on a cure but they weren't interested. My daughter said, "They didn't like her thesis." I'm not sure if they didn't like the particular idea for a cure or the idea of working on a possible cure at all. Maybe I'm just paranoid though...

Holy crap. ABC news just showing an insider-video of the "containment pod" they are using to transport the second worker, secured with ZIP TIES (yes, ZIP TIES), and a SUITED MEDICAL WORKER INSIDE THE POD. So, ZERO containment for anyone outside his hazmat suit. Even though he was INSIDE the pod. My god.

a reply to: ikonoklast

I don't think you are paranoid. From what we are finding, the whole subject of research in the U.S. on ebola, is kept a bit hush hush. Also the participants in current research all appear to have connections to military departments. It makes me a bit leery and uncomfortable thinking that the only moving forward research has a government leash on it.

Des

a reply to: 00nunya00
The second worker they brought to Atlanta? That was a woman.

Just ran across this: Pilot for American Ebola Patients Talks to ABC News
It's a video. I think the one you saw?

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: 00nunya00
The second worker they brought to Atlanta? That was a woman.

Yes. When I say "he" I'm referencing the EMTs were male (I know, could be females, just a generalization).

a reply to: 00nunya00
Oh...okay sorry. I think that's the video.

originally posted by: Destinyone
a reply to: ikonoklast

I don't think you are paranoid. From what we are finding, the whole subject of research in the U.S. on ebola, is kept a bit hush hush. Also the participants in current research all appear to have connections to military departments. It makes me a bit leery and uncomfortable thinking that the only moving forward research has a government leash on it.

Des

Because of it being a Cat 4 organism any research the goverment is going keep on a tight leash.

Ebola not something they want the private sector playing with, not without tight security and controls.

a reply to: ikonoklast

Great charts, i haven't spent the time to dig into your maths, but i was wondering if you had taken the virus' R0 factor of 2-4 into account?

Epidemiological modelling based on the data from previous EBOV outbreaks has produced a basic reproduction number (R0) of 2.7 with a 95% confidence range of 1.9 to 4.1 (Legrand et al., 2007). This R0 is comparable to influenza (Mills et al., 2004) and would seem to be comfortably within the range required to generate an EVD pandemic.

The 2014 Ebola virus disease outbreak in west Africa

1 becomes 2-4, those become 8-16 more etc...

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Yes, watching it now, seems to be the same footage. (I don't wake up early enough apparently, lol!)

Well it's not airborne so....

a reply to: 00nunya00

a reply to: 00nunya00

I'm glad you mentioned and documented it.

originally posted by: 00nunya00
Holy crap. ABC news just showing an insider-video of the "containment pod" they are using to transport the second worker, secured with ZIP TIES (yes, ZIP TIES), and a SUITED MEDICAL WORKER INSIDE THE POD. So, ZERO containment for anyone outside his hazmat suit. Even though he was INSIDE the pod. My god.

That's it? This amounts to a giant zip-lock bag!

If that is the best they can do, we're in trouble.

According to the CDC, there have been 22 inquiries about suspected cases of Ebola in the United States, though none of the cases were confirmed.

link

Confirmed meaning results haven't come back yet or confirmed that the virus wasn't detected?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Thanks to you! It's hard to get all of these links and updates to every member of the thread; some of us wake up early, some late; some go to bed early, some late; some of us (like my poor self, lol) don't have cable. This thread is a testament to folks pulling together to help everyone stay informed. Yay, free TV and unrestricted internet!

here's a doom gloom paranoia question...why are they shipped to Atlanta, when they have 3 other regional facilities?.....deep in the heart of Dixie, where lots of voters are republicans....maybe they are practicing a different form of voter suppression.

originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: 00nunya00
Holy crap. ABC news just showing an insider-video of the "containment pod" they are using to transport the second worker, secured with ZIP TIES (yes, ZIP TIES), and a SUITED MEDICAL WORKER INSIDE THE POD. So, ZERO containment for anyone outside his hazmat suit. Even though he was INSIDE the pod. My god.

That's it? This amounts to a giant zip-lock bag!

If that is the best they can do, we're in trouble.

Exactly. I don't understand how they trust the Ziplock Gigantistco when the HazMat suits weren't enough, apparently. If there can be a rip there, there can be a rip here. If there is insufficient decontamination there, there certainly can be decontamination eff-ups here (.......cameramen.......deboarding hazmated crew in Bangor......FedEx.....nuff said.......yada yada yada).

It boggles the mind. :/

originally posted by: jimmyx
here's a doom gloom paranoia question...why are they shipped to Atlanta, when they have 3 other regional facilities?.....deep in the heart of Dixie, where lots of voters are republicans....maybe they are practicing a different form of voter suppression.

Because the CDC is the ONLY facility in the US testing for ebola:

The CDC is the only lab testing for the Ebola virus. Two blood tests are used to confirm an Ebola diagnosis. The Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) and the enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) are usually used in tandem because neither one alone is a perfect test. Blood tests in suspected patients are first sent to the local health department and then to the CDC. Tom Skinner, a CDC spokesperson, said blood samples are packaged according to biomedical standards and shipped by traditional carriers, like UPS and FedEx.

Source

Airlines
Ebola procedures in place: Delta CEO
Michelle Fox | @MFoxCNBC
2 Hours AgoCNBC.com

While the Ebola outbreak in West Africa has had minimal impact on Delta Air Lines' business, its CEO told CNBC the airline's priority is making sure its operations are safe for passengers and crew members.

Delta has screening mechanisms in place at the airport in Liberia, and its flight crews and pilots turn out of Dakar, Senegal, pick up passengers in Liberia and return to Dakar, Richard Anderson said in an interview with "Closing Bell."

"We have good procedures in place. The government of Liberia is doing a good job screening people in advance of entering the airport," he said.

On Wednesday, the International Air Transport Association said the Ebola outbreak that began in West Africa in March could be one of the biggest challenges for airlines. However, the World Health Organization has said the risk to plane passengers from Ebola is low and has not recommended travel restrictions.

www.cnbc.com...