Sandy Hook Forensic Evidence

a reply to: abdctd

....not even close..

I could be wrong but I think 3C might be pointing to the "cannon fodder" aspect, as in Adam was a patsy/fall guy, perhaps involved, but not in command and not acting on his own.

originally posted by: Navillus
Does it have to do with a past history of that name
a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

You could say that …

originally posted by: 3mperorConstantinE

originally posted by: SMOKINGGUN2012
Which would be what??

 

Originally there was confusion about who the shooter was .........
Are you saying nobody ever really made an ID of Adam?

1. The patriarchal surname. I circled it in red for you.
   
2. Yes
   

if you need help, PM me~

If no one ID'd him, is it fair to question Adams existence? Although I believe he existed in some capacity. If you have any more knowledge to drop please do my friend

a reply to: spirited75

Dead link

a reply to: Sremmos80

fixed it

a reply to: spirited75

Ugh, bringing around free house's.
Been tossed around here plenty of times, another subject that can get a thread tossed out

a reply to: Sremmos80

goodbye

originally posted by: 3mperorConstantinE

originally posted by: Navillus

Does it have to do with a past history of that name

a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

You could say that …

Any connection to the Lanza crime family?

a reply to: zazen
That was my train of thought as well, if there was more to his post besides the obvious he pointed out

originally posted by: Navillus
If no one ID'd him, is it fair to question Adams existence?

Yes. Pretend for a moment that you are an investigator in charge of finding out what occurred in the school on that day.
You have the body of an emaciated young man lying deceased in an elementary school classroom with a gunshot wound to the back of his head. There are some weapons lying nearby. His clothes test positive for gun powder. He has fingerless gloves on, but no fingerprints are on any of the weapons present.
While a .40 caliber frontal-lobe exit wound most certainly tends to mess up someone's appearance, based on body physique alone, this person appears to be in his late teens to early 20's.
There is a 2010 black Honda Civic in front of the school displaying CT license plate 872•YEO—which comes back as belonging to a 52 year old, divorced female who has already been reported dead for 5 hours before her body was found.

So what's the next step?
Well of course, off you go to the immaculately-clean, box-cluttered house at the address the car's owner is registered to and—since this also appears to be a crime scene—you catalogue the contents and try to piece together what happened.
(Oh, and by the way: in this case, you're doing all of this investigating after the Chief Spokesperson of the Connecticut State Police has already told the whole world what happened; even though you can't possibly know this yet)

What evidence do you have proving that a human-being by the name of Adam P. Lanza ever even lived there?

Well you have “Adam Lanza's” Sandy Hook School 5th Grade ‘Stepping-Up’ Ceremony” dated June 10, 1999:



With the only problem being … that ‘Adam P. Lanza’ would have just turned 7.

Don't forget the outrageously obvious forgery that is the “Newtown High School Tech Club ID”.
Two years old, and totally useless —but just sitting on top of everything, like he's supposed to have just taken it out of his pocket or something:



Let's not forget his notebook:


Or his AAA card:


Which … take a guess who it is registered to.

So again, no identification of the body, or the mother's body.

Ryan Lanza knows all of this before his mom has been declared dead, and his father Peter Lanza, is in two places at one time while simultaneously being reported dead in two different cities.†

Sounds like an open and shut case to me!

~ﺡ


† I'll cover this in more detail in a later post.

originally posted by: zazen
Any connection to the Lanza crime family?

No overt connection that I am aware of.

At the moment what I can tell you, is two pieces of time-saving advice.

Firstly,
The information available to the public regarding Mr. Peter Lanza isn't quite … accurate or … how should I put it … ‘up to date’.

Second piece of advice:
…you may want to spend some time in our nice public libraries.

I hear that there are some with especially beautiful architecture, in say … Boston.

~ﺡ

I just love that notebook. Having that gem introduced as being Adam's, when Ryan Lanza's name is on it, well, that's almost priceless. I think something is amiss here.

And not to throw things off here, but I find it interesting of late to discover Suzanne Collins, reported to be a Sandy Hook resident, author of the Hunger Games, which I know nothing about. Well, little Elliot Rodger, in the news of late, his father happens to have been a director of some sort for the Hunger Games, it's just odd eh?

originally posted by: smokenmirrors
I just love that notebook. Having that gem introduced as being Adam's, when Ryan Lanza's name is on it, well, that's almost priceless. I think something is amiss here.

And not to throw things off here, but I find it interesting of late to discover Suzanne Collins, reported to be a Sandy Hook resident, author of the Hunger Games, which I know nothing about. Well, little Elliot Rodger, in the news of late, his father happens to have been a director of some sort for the Hunger Games, it's just odd eh?

The Hunger Games books are set in a future America, where each year 24 children are placed into an arena where they fight until 1 remains alive. This is meant to be a reminder of the horrors of war and a warning to the citizens to stay in line. Essentially, these children are sacrificed for "the greater good" (or rather the existing government's idea of the greater good).

Ms. Collins came up with the idea for these books while channel surfing one night and noting the blurring of lines between reality TV and the manner in which war was packaged and presented by the news stations.

Though it may not fit the customary definition of forensic evidence, Ms. Collins residence in the Sandy Hook neighborhood of Newtown was certainly noted within hours of this event. So this would qualify as forensic evidence when more loosely defined as being connected to the event.

Here we have a world famous author with children of her own, famous for writing about the government sacrifice of children, living in the same neighborhood where this event took place. While this could certainly be coincidental, it would seem to be the type of information that would be "run up the flagpole" at the very least.

Emperor Constantine is certainly doing his homework!

a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

1) The fingerprints or lack of them being Adam's is baffling.
2) So she was a volunteer, there is nothing there that claims she did it for his class.
3) If you notice the notebook has Ryan's name scratched a few times probably with one of those large knives he owned.
4) Who is the AAA card registered to his mom? So what......
5) So they guessed a little early on the ID of Adam and they claim the woman at the house is his mother. I guess they were right huh?

What is so shocking about a notebook that had writings in it by Adam that previously had Ryan's name?
BTW I did see a AAA card in the photos with Ryan's name on it.

a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

You can add to that compendium all the graphic video games that were the hottest and latest games of 2010 sitting on his desk.
Also see final report pictures of a bedroom that looks as if no one had lived in for years.
Last piece of evidence: No one had seen him (except as "DDR guy") in the last 3 years.

Go here:
cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov...
At the bottom "10 assorted files"
Section 5......Page 292 of 667
Ryan Lanza AAA card
It is dated 2009-2010 oddly.......

ADDED: BTW that photo of Adam was actually found under a sink.....check out #372 from the above file.
Also right next to the photo is a wallet and oddly enough there are no pictures of them opening it or what was inside.

Hi... I've been reading along for awhile now...

The "Stepping Up" Fifth Grade program - was that simply evidence of Mrs. Lanza being a volunteer for the 5th grade class? Or is it specifically and officially reported as "Adam Lanza's" 5th Grade Stepping Up program? If it is "officially" in police reports as his then it is wrong. But since it is with the "Thank You" to a "Special Volunteer" card, it makes me think this was from a class she volunteered for...???

What do former classmates say about Adam - he was in public school for a long time before being pulled for Homeschool? People saw him and filmed him playing DDR, as you reported earlier.

I've been very impressed with many of the things you've brought forward so far, but I'm not sure I am following you here though...

Thanks for a great investigative thread, 3CE.