Sandy Hook Forensic Evidence

originally posted by: SMOKINGGUN2012
BTW since we are discussing Adam…
I read a report last night that stated Adam refused to EVER take any medication. Apparently he was prescribed some at one time or another. If that is true then the theory of him flipping out due to coming off meds would be 100% false.

In Connecticut, at the state-level, a person's prescription history can be recovered. That means every prescription ever filled for a person under that name and DOB (this is above and beyond the more common, inter-pharmacy-level opiate monitoring, utilized by many states). I am not sure if they can search more than 5 years back.

Adam Lanza had zero prescriptions filled in the last 5 years.†

Who here has had a 5 year stretch without having taken say … an antibiotic?
NOTE: the question is rhetorical. Imagine I am saying “who here is over 6'8" tall”? Having a lot of 7 foot tall people responding “well, I am!” does not counteract the statistical unlikeliness.

~ But let's forget about that—as of course some (few) people go years without getting a prescription filled—so let's stick with the report. Did Adam P. Lanza have any prescriptions in the house?


Q:
Would Connecticut's PDMP (Prescription-Drug Monitoring Program) have any record of this?



And it should look like this:


† Look at Dr. Xavier Soto's response to the query by the CSP (I believe they mis-spelled his name in the report as “Dr. Javier Soto”). No records found for Adam Lanza

originally posted by: 3mperorConstantinE

originally posted by: SMOKINGGUN2012
BTW since we are discussing Adam…
I read a report last night that stated Adam refused to EVER take any medication. Apparently he was prescribed some at one time or another. If that is true then the theory of him flipping out due to coming off meds would be 100% false.

In Connecticut, at the state-level, a person's prescription history can be recovered. That means every prescription ever filled for a person under that name and DOB (this is above and beyond the more common, inter-pharmacy-level opiate monitoring, utilized by many states). I am not sure if they can search more than 5 years back.

Adam Lanza had zero prescriptions filled in the last 5 years.

Who here has had a 5 year stretch without having taken say … an antibiotic?

I haven't taken any prescription meds in more than a decade. Of course I'm not an assumed mental case under psychiatric care. Your point is well taken.

a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE
I haven't had any prescription medications in 2 years and aside from meds during pregnancies that were pregnancy related I haven't had any prescription medication in about 6 years. My husband hasn't had any in the 7 years we have been together.
This does discredit any theory that he did this due to coming off medications though.

I didn't check to see if all the GPS records are available to look at, but one thing did stick out like a sore thumb when looking at those in this thread - where's the trips to the range? The trips to a gun and ammo shop? Are there any in the data? I mean if you're a prepper gun nut like Nancy Lanza and taking your son to the range to learn to shoot like a Navy Seal, then there should be some data on trips to a gun shop or four, plus trips to a range. Seeing that this is what the whole thing is ultimately about, there should be plenty of trips garnered from the GPS data that prove he was training to become the marksman we're led to believe he became. I don't care how many hours or how many video first person shooter games you play, you ain't going to be a marksman with a real weapon.

a reply to: Bilk22

You're right - the GSP shows no trips to any gun stores or ranges.
So much for the "well-practiced shooter" theory showing prior intent.

a reply to: SMOKINGGUN2012

maybe they lied?

didn't want people to start shouting "the drugs did it", so they fabricate a story about him refusing to take the meds?

OR, maybe he actually was leery of mind-altering drugs?

point is; we'll never know for sure....if he was on them, and they wanted to paint him as a nut that should have been on meds, but wasn't, then the tox report would be altered to show he wasn't on anything, and if he really wasn't then the report is genuine..

a reply to: Asktheanimals

unless, they didn't need the GPS to get there, and it either wasn't present in the car for the trips, or simply wasn't turned on...

originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: Asktheanimals

unless, they didn't need the GPS to get there, and it either wasn't present in the car for the trips, or simply wasn't turned on...

Well if the original story is correct and he went to the theater every day for 6 months then I highly suspect he didn't need the gps for that either after the first couple of trips. Unless he was a total idiot and couldn't remember the basics in driving to someplace. Not sure about anyone else, but most people I know at the most it only takes a few times of driving a route before you know where your going...

a reply to: jaynkeel
I have never used a GPS but did that model or do any record a trip without plugging in directions? Maybe it just recorded because it was plugged in?

originally posted by: 3mperorConstantinE

originally posted by: zazen
a reply to: Asktheanimals

There have been some weird things I've noticed regarding Ryan, most of which are probably mistakes of some kind.

One thing is the autopsy report (or some document pertaining thereto) for Adam Lanza which lists RYAN Lanza's birthday instead of Adam's.

Unless you were meaning something else, you're probably referring to the page I had posted in your CT State Trooper Testimony… thread.

And while it was not autopsy related, it was in fact even more perplexing.
i.e. it was this:
Authorization for the Release of Records which was signed by Peter John Lanza in the presence of his attorney, Michael English; which lists Adam Lanza's DOB as April 10, 1988†

† Adam P. Lanza's allegedly “official DOB” was/is the 22nd of April, 1992. Ryan John Lanza's allegedly “official DOB” was/is the 10th of April, 1988 (as per the official document shown above, signed by Peter J. Lanza in the presence of his attorney and detectives from the Connecticut State Police)

Yep, that is the one. Thanks for reminding me. Nice work on all of this by the way.

a reply to: jaynkeel

we established that the nav units in question record "journey" data, when online....meaning, they surreptitiously record information about your travels, even when not providing navigational directions...

so it's likely, he wasn't actually punching in the theater every time he went...which is what i originally thought as well, and made a post to that effect a page or two ago..before i was made aware of the automatic recording done by the GPS

Another thing about the GPS, I went looking for any evidence photos of either one and it must be blacked out because I can't find it. As thorough and detailed as these reports are I find it impossible that they would not have photographed either, or that they list the wrong model. Just looking at the pictures on Amazon of both, they are similar but NOT exactly the same.

a reply to: zazen

Interesting that Peter Lanza would incorrectly list his own son's birthdate in the presence of his lawyer.
Makes you wonder just how real their connection was.

We really have to find a way to get all this information to the mainstream, otherwise the people will never get any answers... If the buzz is big enough they may be obliged to answer the forensic evidence flaws.

a reply to: WeSbO

the same thing was said about twin towers and 9/11.

hell even ATS is compromised on this one.

a reply to: notquitesure

i have not had any prescription for over 20 years.

a reply to: WeSbO

Unfortunately I really don't see that happening. The MSM story of SH is ingrained so deep with the majority of the population that nothing would change their POV. The average person does not have the mental capacity to tackle conspiracies. The majority of people capable of taking on conspiracies don't have the time or aren't willing to invest the energy needed to truly understand them....or they just flat out don't care what happened.

The type of personality best suited to truly understanding conspiracies are introverts. Whether it be INTP, INTJ, ISTP, ISFJ, ISFP, or ISTJ...it takes an introvert to take in and analyze information logically and rationally. Unfortunately this type of personality tends to avoid the widespread social interaction needed to change paradigms.

Until the majority of the population becomes introverted there is no chance of change.

So does that mean we should not at least try ? Well we might as well stop looking then ... There are some major things wrong with the evidence, that the majority will think something stinks...

I don't agree with the "type of personnalty to be able to understand". It's just that most people aren't bothered in searching, but if everything is served to them, they will listen...

I mean if it was all written up and well presented I bet it would interest "RT" for exemple, though not as well known, would still be a good start.

I know that if it was my research I would be using every way possible to get the info out.

a reply to: WeSbO

The ability to think logically and rationally is associated with introverted personalities. This isn't something I made up...just a fact. Those personalities are the ones that generally come up with the extremely well thought out and intricate conspiracy theories that hold weight.

Then you have the conspiracy theories that make no sense and make the rest of us look like idiots. These generally come from the outroverted crowd who are very passionate, but fail to think deeply enough, and do not take in the information required to come to a logical conclusion. These people and their theories are perfect to pick on by the majority(and MSM) as they are very vocal and lack the knowledge to back up their viewpoint.

Outroverted conspiracy theorists while genuine, only deviate from the greater good of the "truther" movement.