ATS Poll: What is your political ideology or affiliation?

Hmmm. Dang. Not able to answer. I'm a square peg to those round holes, so to speak, even though they are generously drawn...



- AB

a reply to: BO XIAN
Nature was god long long before yours was

I don't like the high percentage of non-violent beliefs. Now my revolution can never succeed, lol. Seriously though it is hard for me to peg my ideology as far as a label is concerned. I am liberal in many ways, but am a strong Constitutional advocate, a nut for the Bill of Rights, have some more conservative values, yet also believe Communism can work in certain instances and that it has many advantages. I am all for government regulation of businesses, for a higher tax on a higher income, for social equality, and even for economic equality to a certain extent. I do not think everyone should receive the same income, but I do not believe that people should be allowed to make billions of dollars, nor do I agree that the majority of our wealth should be consolidated in 1% of the population.

I think capitalism has some advantages, but I also think it is highly corrupt in its very nature, as well as the fact that it breeds and promotes corruption, and I believe government and economics should be much more directly controlled by the masses. I don't even believe in the elected form of government we have now. Don't get me wrong, I believe in a republic or democracy, but certain safeguards need to be put in place to prevent the monopolization of government that we have seen in the past. Too many various agencies have too much power. Never should a group be allowed to violate the rights of any person.

I also am a strong believer in eliminating interest groups. Well maybe not eliminating them altogether, as sometimes they serve to educate politicians on goings on. But we definitely should be able to monitor and control all correspondence between politicians and interest groups, or all dealings between the two should be open and common knowledge. What needs to be eliminated however are corporate interest groups who lobby the government. Under no circumstances should a for-profit organization be allowed to attempt to sway government decisions.

If a business-owner wishes to have their views heard, they should do so as a private citizen, and withhold their particular business dealings. They should simply outline their concerns in a more general manner, and must not attempt to sway a politician in any way. And I believe a system should be in place that ensures politicians are not in it for less than noble reasons. Those who serve the people should be like teachers...They don't make a whole lot of money, rather they do it for more personal reasons. Well at least some teachers.

We need a system that ensures a politician is not allowed to help out corporations because they will have a lucrative position waiting for them once they leave public office. Such crony-ism is ruining this country, because politicians are making decisions and casting votes not based on what the majority of people want, but what their interest groups and corporations want. These decisions are influenced by the personal interests of the politicians, and is not aligned with those they are supposed to be representing.

And I also believe campaigns should be highly regulated in that laws need to be passed to ensure private interests are not spending money to get an official elected, because they will expect things from that official. Politicians should only serve the interests of the people, not corporations or special interest groups that have profit-motives or desire to gain or wield power over the masses in some way.

And there needs to be more than two main political parties. I don't care if the government funds all campaigns to a certain amount, but there needs to be more than two main parties. People need to be able to have variety, considering there is no way that two parties really represent the majority of people's views. They make them think they're representing the views of the people but this is not the case. In fact, people have been brainwashed by the existence of two parties to some extent, making them think their views must align with one.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

None of the above...
I am an individual living my own life my way, while being forced to live by there rules and laws.

I went my views are a combination, as I do not affiliate with any particular party. I vote based on the candidate, not the party. In the 2012 election, I voted for an independent, republican, democrat, libertarian and green party, all in the same election. Must have really messed with the people counting the votes.

a reply to: calstorm

Sounds like you are under the . . . impression . . .

still . . .

that they count the votes . . .

vs manipulate the electorate;
control the voting;
control even more the vote counting . . .

originally posted by: buster2010
Where do you get your info from and do you have a link proving any of this. . . .

Another source for anyone interested:

The first quote below from a dinner party conversation at a Moscow flat in 1992 shows that the Communists knew of Barack from a very early date and that he was being groomed to be their anticipated rising star to pave the way for their future.

"What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?"

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, "Well, you will; and he will be a Communist."

It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, "It sounds like you know something we don't know."

"Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack.

He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America."

We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he'd be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.

She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. "Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet."

The First Time I Heard Of Barack

Barack Obama: The Soviet Union's Chosen One (An interview with the author, Tom Fife @11min.) Transcript here.

I do not want to mince words, Obama is preparing to subjugate the entire country. This is a purposeful act and Obama, his Cabinet and FEMA are making conscious decisions to destroy the sovereignty of this country.

Before I review the many elements of the planned Russian “surprise attack”, it is important for America to understand that it takes a communist to bring communism to America. Obama was bred by communists, raised by communists, educated at the finest schools with communist money, his political career was launched by communists and his controllers in the White House are communists. Obama is the lynchpin of a multigenerational plan to hand America over to the Russians and to the Chinese communists. Click on the hypertext links in this paragraph to read the proof of what I speak.

Obama did not just wake up one day and decide to weaken American defenses and hand over the country to the Russian communists. Obama was groomed for this position for the past several years. He is indeed the right communist, at the right time, whose mission is to bring America the most crippling form of communism the world has ever seen.

America Is Officially An Occupied Nation

a reply to: Murgatroid

Oh, another communist conspiracy? Blah.

originally posted by: blupblup
Unless it just SEEMS very Right-Wing conservative because they're loud and mouthy?

Bingo.

That and, right wingers tend to agree with each other way more easily so they seem to harvest stars more easily, thus are more inclined to post and share their opinions.

a reply to: BO XIAN

I'd like to see a panel of interested research/psychologist/sociologist/anthropologist members...come up with polls from suggestions from the members.

Thought you didn't want to hire me!!
So, you're hurt/angry that Green Party philosophy/ideology/sensibilities are popular?

Interesting observation on my behalf...The Green Party currently has the highest percentage; yet, it the least represented here on ATS. Where is the Green Party posts? I'd like to see some of the political content geared towards that area.

originally posted by: AfterInfinity

originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: smithjustinb
Libertarian with a very strong conservative/constitutional leaning. Who's with me?

Looks like about 12.9% so far.
-points to the poll-

Yeah. But who exactly?

Why does it matter?

Because I choose for it to matter. Kinda like people who go on eHarmony and list interests so they can meet with people with like minds. Except I'm not trying to date anyone here.

What's it to you anyway? Ill post what I want.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Kali74

That, OR people are reading what the Green Party actually stands for and suddenly realizing --- hey! That's me!!!

If everyone who voted voted for the reasons you did, the people who are voting have an elementary understanding of politics and political parties and are probably too uninformed to make a legitimate choice.

I think the green party probably got ranked high because it was the only selection that listed somewhat of a definition of what it is. But, if people had a real understanding of the implication of such a party, I doubt they would be so quick to vote for it.

a reply to: theMediator

NOPE.

Some conservatives agree with each other a bit more commonly than more rebellious types and values orientations because we tend to deal more in reality and in facts

vs

individualized versions of various globalist proffered fantasies, propaganda, mass mind-control memes etc.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
The "my views are a combination of all political dogma" to me screams

-i dont want to say

-Cop out

-I dont understand politics

I know that sounds harsh, but to me if (given all the choices in the poll) you cant figure out where you stand on issues, then that person probably needs to be doing more evaluation of their beliefs...

A person without conviction does injustice to himself IMHO

That option should have just read "I have no idea where i stand"

more like, "none represents all my views?"

i chose that one because i decide by issues not by party.

there is a little of everything in me.

and sometimes ya gotta take the bad with the good, when voting.

*shocked*

By the poll results. In a good way...

Just not at all what I would have thought given the loudest voices and most frequent posters.

Wellll this got aborted by Firefox crashing for the umpteenth time but I had saved this much in a Word file:

SCRATCH PAD OF POSTS FOR ATS

MAY 2014

a reply to: smithjustinb

Since folks are blathering lots of silliness about regarding the GREEN PARTY . . . here's some links for those who seriously and genuinely want to consider the facts:

HOW THE GREEN PARTY WORKS:

people.howstuffworks.com...

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20TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE AMERICAN GREEN MOVEMENT:

www.greenparty.org...

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G/GPUSA WEBSITE:

www.greenparty.org...

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GLOBALISM AND THE GREEN PARTY RELATED LINKS:

en.wikipedia.org...

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NICOLAS BERGGRUEN, BILLIONAIRE GLOBALIST AND MERITOCRACY ADVOCATE . . .

willyloman.wordpress.com...

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BREAKUP OF THE USA IS INEVITABLE:

www.independentpoliticalreport.com...

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GREEN AGENDA:

SUSTAINABILITY, ENVIRONMENTALISM (i.e. Crisis-mongering power-grabbing resource control and rationing), Feudal system . . . Food tyranny, Earth Charter, . . .

canadianliberty.com...

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FACTS NEWS...JUST THE FACTS

factsnews.wordpress.com...

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[trying to reconstruct]

IS AMERICA 'YEARNING FOR FASCISM?'

[it's a champion of the green party article . . . but it has some good analysis on globalism . . . it's just seemingly clueless about how the green party is also a tool of the same globalists]

vineyardsaker.blogspot.com...

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WAKE UP TO THE MATRIX:

wakeuptothematrix.wordpress.com...

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WAKE-UP CALL

IS AMERICA ALREADY A FAILED STATE?

laudyms.wordpress.com...

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[THE GREEN AND THE COMMUNIST PARTIES . . . BEDMATES?]

PEOPLE & NATURE BEFORE PROFITS:

www.cpusa.org...

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ON POINT:

THE NEW GLOBAL ECONOMY:

onpoint.wbur.org...

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THE LEFT HAS NOWHERE TO GO:

www.truthdig.com...

Ralph Nadar . . .

There is no major difference between a McCain administration, a Bush and an Obama administration. Obama, in fact, is in many ways worse. McCain, like Bush, exposes the naked face of corporate power. Obama, who professes to support core liberal values while carrying out policies that mock these values, mutes and disempowers liberals, progressives and leftists. Environmental and anti-war groups, who plead with Obama to address their issues, are little more than ineffectual supplicants.
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Obama, like Bush and McCain, funds and backs our unending and unwinnable wars. He does nothing to halt the accumulation of the largest deficits in human history. The drones murder thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, as they did under Bush and would have done under McCain. The private military contractors, along with the predatory banks and investment houses, suck trillions out of the U.S. Treasury as efficiently under Obama. Civil liberties, including habeas corpus, have not been restored. The public option is dead. The continuation of the Bush tax cuts, adding some $900 billion to the deficit, along with the reduction of individual contributions to Social Security, furthers a debt peonage that will be the excuse to privatize Social Security, slash social services and break the back of public service unions. Obama does not intercede as tens of millions of impoverished Americans face foreclosures and bankruptcies. The Democrats provide better cover. But the corporate assault is the same.

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