ATS Poll: What is your political ideology or affiliation?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Not likely here on ATS... LOL

Across the internet maybe. You say anything considered green here and all but about less than 10 people are gonna fling poo all over the place.

a reply to: Kali74

True that...ETA: I just reread the OP - and yes, it's open to visitors too.
That's good. Maybe it's a good pulse of readership at large - and will encourage more of them to sign up and take part!!
We have to remember there are lots of 'lurkers', who maybe don't want to be flamed into oblivion so they don't say much...

Or maybe, people have been led to simply "despise" Green Partiers/Progressives without really knowing what they stand for.
I see that a LOT around here -

I sure hope we see the total number of votes eventually - by members and by guests. (numbers, not names - no taking names. those of us who get the idea recognize each other anyway).

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I dunno. It could be innocent in nature, just not representative of the vocal majority here in any way shape or form lol. It's nothing against the poll itself.

a reply to: Kali74

just not representative of the vocal majority here

Absotively.

No one wants to be called an evil, shrill, willfully blind, noisy, illogical idiot.

Some of us can take it, but I don't blame those who refrain from opening themselves up to attack. I'm just not wired that way. I say what I think and pull no punches (though it's sometimes a struggle).

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

An immense struggle haha.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Just lost a good long post to this thread due to a freeze-up. WOULD SURE APPRECIATE AN AUTOSAVE FEATURE to this posting window.

Not sure when I can try again on it.

I almost think this thread needs another thread to discuss the topics raised so as not to clog up the topic of the poll. But then, how does one separate the poll topic from the issues. LOL.

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
Anarchy is the greenest choice since the natural order of things and nature follows that model aside from the ordered and predictable aspects of nature which we have little to no understanding of yet.

I think you're correct.
The way the "Green Party" is described, they might as well have simply used the word/term "Utopia", or, even better - "NeverLand".

a reply to: BO XIAN

Why do I feel relieved?

Sheesh. Could you please, when you rewrite it, put it in the Mud Pit?

originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: smithjustinb
Libertarian with a very strong conservative/constitutional leaning. Who's with me?

Looks like about 12.9% so far.
-points to the poll-

Yeah. But who exactly?

Why does it matter?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Thank you for that. I'm glad someone decided to address that garbage.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord
* Absolutely disgusted with absolutely every politician out there.... How's that!?!?

After reading lots of posts around here, it surprised me that so many people chose to identify with the Green Party. I would've thought Anarchist would get the bigger share. A lot of folks on ATS express considerable anger and disdain for the system; especially for Obama personally. It seems no matter what it is, if it's broke, then Obama did it.

I'm glad to see there's more diversity around here than what I expected. I think variety and alternative views are good, but baseless, unfounded hatred is bad.

Rock on...

honestly I would pick communism because on paper and in theory it is the best option for the people but the actual result of communism is far from the theory so im going to say anarchist because who doesn't like a bit of mayhem

The "my views are a combination of all political dogma" to me screams

-i dont want to say

-Cop out

-I dont understand politics

I know that sounds harsh, but to me if (given all the choices in the poll) you cant figure out where you stand on issues, then that person probably needs to be doing more evaluation of their beliefs...

A person without conviction does injustice to himself IMHO

That option should have just read "I have no idea where i stand"

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Battleline
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Another poll... tired of analyzing post's ?

Poll's are a waste of time along with being inconsistent with knowing anything about anybody.

YAH, I know, then just ignore them which is what I will do.

Wow how much more cynical and miserable can you get?

ATS enjoys doing things to keep it interesting around here on ATS, they like doing things that involve their members.

You dont have to take the poll ( but I bet despite all your snide remarks you still did).

You didnt have to post on thread either (but you did)

If its all such a waste of time and so miserable,then why did you waste YOUR time doing it?

Look at the time you wasted ridiculing me, get under your skin did it ?

No I did not take either poll and its my right to post how I feel on ATS as long as I stay within the T&C rules ... unless your something new and people that don't agree with you have to answer to you...did I miss something ?

As far as being miserable I can't imagine being more miserable then to flame someone who said nothing to you, did you make your brownie points doing this ?

Hmm strange i am not able to find my self, maybe because i am from Norway ?

a reply to: netbound

ACTUALLY, IIRC,

I believe it can be documented that the green party was carefully and deliberately concocted by the globalist oligarchy to further fracture the electorate as well as to collect a lot of disaffected youth and younger adults into a hopefully life-long commitment to hostility against the other power groups in the electorate.

Such a group has been exceedingly successful for them in

1. Capturing the target demographics to their goals
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2. Said demographic being exceedingly manipulatable toward said goals in a diversity of ways.
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3. Fracturing the culture and the society--particularly against traditional Dem and GOP power clusters while essentially colluding with many left wing memes, themes, goals, hostilities, rebellions, strategies and goals.

4. They have also helped add enormous costs to various industries with questionable results in terms of the stated and admirable goals. This has put at risk jobs and other high priorities--sometimes in regions already in desperate economic straits.

5. The oligarchy has also succeeded in turning the green meme into a new religion for those who have rebelled against more traditional religions. This has enhanced the potency of using the group in manipulated ways toward the genocidal globalist goals. This is most starkly demonstrated by some of the famous opinion makers and leaders trying to sound 'horrendously GREENER THAN THOU.'

Some of that block have gone so far as to loudly assert that mankind should be exterminated and the planet left to the animals. . . . or . . . "Nature" with a Capital "N." Interesting how nature has been turned into God . . . just as predicted.

Romans 1:25
They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

From a diversity of sources:

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twoday.net...

www.crossroad.to...

www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com...



twga...

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129."It's terrible to have to say this. World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day" Jacques-Yves Cousteau, oceanographer and humanist, The UNESCO Courier, Nov. 1991, page 13
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130."The commitment of government to deal with the population issue is of course essential...There are many ways to make the death rate Increase." Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense, New Solidarity, March 30, 1981
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30."From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, . . ., this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a ... role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now ... this band ... from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in l922.
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31."We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world." [history] Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June l931 speech before the Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen.

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22. "In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world . . . They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers." U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

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18. "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations


12. "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

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15. "We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." - Arthur Schlesinger Jr., 'The CFR Journal Foreign Affairs', August 1975.

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138."The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR, the Bilderberger Group, and the Trilateral Commission - founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens." Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, PhD, former German defense ministry official and advisor to former NATO Secretary-General Manfred Werner, November 6, 2001

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Four years later, the foundation gave a grant to Princeton University to study the influence of radio on different groups, and Rockefeller's General Education Board funded a study of CBS's 1938 broadcast of War of the Worlds, which was written up later as a 'study in the psychology of panic.'"[36]

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100."The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists". J. Edgar Hoover, former head of the FBI

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30. Prince Phillip, husband of Queen Elizabeth II and co-founder of the World Wildlife Fund: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.”

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I'd like to see a panel of interested research/psychologist/sociologist/anthropologist members and an admin rep come up with polls from suggestions from the members.

Members might well do fine on their own but I suspect the quality could be increased with an experienced and trained panel of folks used to it

originally posted by: blupblup

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
If I HAD to pic one, which I hate to do, I would choose the Green Party. I wanted to choose a combination of 3 of them...

LOL


Yeah me too....I was going to pick Greens but I felt bad for the commies, so I picked Communists

I almost went treehugger but sided with anarchist simply because I have yet to see proof that any central government is immune from corruption let alone not festering all up in it.

originally posted by: buster2010

Where do you get your info from and do you have a link proving any of this. . . .

Here's a good place to start with excellent sources:

obamaism.blogspot.com...
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AND:

keywiki.org...

Frank Marshall Davis
Frank Marshall Davis

Barack Obama's first known connection with a Communist Party USA supporter was his boyhood relationship with communist poet Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii.

Barack Obama's relationship to Frank Marshall Davis, first came to light through a March 2007 speech[2] at New York University's Tamiment Library by Communist Party USA supporter and historian Gerald Horne.