ATS Poll: What is your political ideology or affiliation?

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

emmmm so a poll that is only really for American mmebers.....

Suggestion for a new poll, "Scottish independence: yes or no?"

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I can see US-only results, and will post results from all countries that have a statistical significance.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Hmmmm . . .

related perhaps . . .

to the Draconian economic experiences in the last year or so in Greece?

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

SOUNDS GREAT.

Looking forward to it.

Fun stuff if folks don't get their ego-knickers in a twist.

Trying again with this. Been getting "...timed out" even though just clicked post. Will try copying and immediate posting.

Using latest IE at the moment.

That is a problem I have been having as well. If you sit on a post for even five minutes before posting it, it times out. Not just with IE either.

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I can see US-only results, and will post results from all countries that have a statistical significance.

What i mean is that this poll of political ideology is more of a poll regarding American political ideological points.

For instance I note you have not included a option for Socialist yet list the tea party as a option.

I am not complaining just saying that the poll is very much targeted towards Americans rather than the whole of the ATS membership base.

Based on these numbers and my opinion, I made a quick, nonscientific analysis:

Left-leaning: 30.86%

Right-leaning: 41.61%

"Independent": 27.51%

I wonder how that aligns with national poll numbers

Here's a sneak-peak preview of an early analysis with about 2,300 votes tallied. I'll wait until we're over 3,000 for the full analysis.

The first graph is all responses, the second is US-only, and the third is UK-only.

Very interesting.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Ah so all the green supporters are from the UK, that explains a lot.
I was expecting the combination answer to be the highest one in the US really. US results are a lot closer to what I expected, but still a bit off.

I'm not a member of the green party, but given the choices they are closest so they got my vote.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

S.O. Great work.

IF it's a convenient option, the next graphs, please scale them up 2-4 notches. Or, enable better scaling with the ctrl+ combo, please. My 21" and 23" screens are about 4' from my Laz-Y-Boy eye position and I routinely run with the windows scaled up quite a bit for easy reading with my aging eyes.

The ones above could scale up but it was a bit much with the rest of the windows etc. If it's not that easy, no sweat. Will be happy to make do as is.

Blessings,

a reply to: EviLCHiMP

So what do you suggest we all do? Not move? Sit under a tree and meditate all day? Politics exists because multiple human selves with different experiences, feelings and perspectives exists.

Politics is a mainstay of the human experience. Though I do believe we could be far more enlightened and far more aligned in our social thinking than the present reality presents.

Makes more sense now lol *sigh*.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

That's what I would have predicted.

It's a shame so few Americans appreciate the magnitude of climate change. Green should be the position of everyone. The Europeans get this (probably due to an acute sensitivity to the pangs of war). The fact is, we need to end this repulsive dependence on fossil fuels. We need to stop cutting down so many trees. Geeze. I can't even talk about this without confusing myself trying to run down in my mind the various problems we introject into the ecosystem with human activity. It runs the gamut from toxic chemicals in growing foods, to plastics, concrete, livestock, genetic engineering, deforestation, etc. Ughhh. It amazes me how someone can reflect on all this tampering we do without feeling a disgust. We have let ourselves, in our ignorance, and arrogance, become awful stewards of this planet.

We still have time to change things. This is all we can do. We #ed up. And all we can do, the only sensible thing to do, is to try and repair the mistakes we've made. But, like this poll shows, not even American internet users have the awareness of how desperate our ecological situation is. They seem unable to comprehend - or appreciate - what scientists and thinkers familiar with abstract thinking, fully understand: we've severely disrupted a chaotic system and we don't know how it will respond. We know how sensitive our bodies can be to disruption. If we eat foods - introduce chemicals - that our body doesn't have the cellular technology to process - we get sick. The response of the body - the unified system - is to expunge this in order to restore homeostasis; oftentimes, cancer will lead to the death of the body - and the system itself. Earth, on the other hand, has endured 5 global catastrophic extinctions in its long history. Each one required hundreds of thousands to millions of years for the system to restore itself in a state of balance. For example, during the ordivician period, the earths waters were purply and the sky a dark green. This was following the first extinction period. One of the surviving life forms of this period was a bacteria that released sulfur dioxide. Earth more resembled Titan - a moon of saturn - than the Earth of today.

We may be #ing very badly with our ecosystem. Higher temperatures may mean the extinction of thousands of species as forest fires happen more broadly and arable lands dry out as water evaporates into the atmosphere. This may produce a situation where human life expectancy drops to 60 years of age (or lower) as atmospheric oxygen levels diminish because the trees which released oxygen as a biproduct became scarce.

Fascinating. We have a very diverse group of people here, as I have always thought was the case.

From what I can see, the breakdown is:

Conservative/Libertrian/Constitition - 40.91%

Liberal/Green/Communist - 29.2%

Combination - 18.08%
and
Anarchist - 11.81%

The above grouping is based on my own political ideas, of course, and I am sure some would arrange things differently.

I am curious about the "combination" category. I would guess this is people that have ideas from various places in the political spectrum, on different sorts of issues?

Love the idea of polls, though! It's nice to see who we are as a group.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
*snip*

It seems clear to me that the roughly 10% greater numbers on the liberal side does not explain in and of itself the far greater number and intensity of liberal posts on ATS.

Sociologically, that's VERY fascinating.

It is, isn't it? In my mind, I group the Conservatives with Libertarians and Constitution types, and liberals with communist and green types. The "combo" ones don't fit well with either, and the anarchists I left out of each side as well.

Results are posted here.

Carry the discussion over to the new thread.