ATS Poll: What is your political ideology or affiliation?

originally posted by: smithjustinb
I'd like to see a poll, "Do you support the occupation of the Ukraine by Russian forces?"

Or the occupation of Afghanistan by NATO forces.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr

originally posted by: smithjustinb
I'd like to see a poll, "Do you support the occupation of the Ukraine by Russian forces?"

Or the occupation of Afghanistan by NATO forces.

NATO's Kosovo war is the better example though, and the precedent Putin could now so conveniently refer to.

I'm neutral as to all politics as a Christian. I find it interesting I can't vote "neutral."

I remember when I used to get people calling me and polling me for political issues years ago during the first Obama campaign. I tried to ignore them but they were persistent and so I let them ask their questions, and I would say, neutral, "but that's not an an acceptable answer," I would say, it's the only one I'm giving. Out of all the questions they asked me, they didn't have one response that was acceptable to me.

A poll to see who is gonna go against the status quo lol Want to see who is good little mindless drones and who is gonna be a thorn in their side. I am abstaining

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I see this is a distorted US only poll! You folks in the US really need to wake up and realise that both your mainstream parties are on the right wing of the political spectrum. There is nothing in the list between the extreme left (communism) and the right of centre (democrat) apart from the green party which tends to sit left of centre but has an alternate "driver" of its policies (in that most parties are concerned primarily with tweaking fiscal and monetary policy for improving peoples lives whilst the greens are about improving the environment and thus that improves peoples lives)

Where is the option Humanist?

a reply to: yorkshirelad

Agreed. I nearly ruined the poll by voting, but became suspicious when I couldn't find the right button. Americans only? Oh well. Maybe next time.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr

originally posted by: smithjustinb
I'd like to see a poll, "Do you support the occupation of the Ukraine by Russian forces?"

Or the occupation of Afghanistan by NATO forces.

To combat terrorist extremists is one thing. To attempt to conquer is another.

Anarchist .. Have no need nor use for governments or leaders of any type. Its my life I live it on my terms NOT the terms of others.

SO, the choices change order when the results are displayed but apparently not for any particular reason (not alpha, not low to high or high to low), so that's kind of odd?

Also, it would be nice to see how many votes were cast.

I'm surprised by the results I would have thought it 99.99999999999999999999999999% tea party by now

a reply to: crazyewok

Why surprised? If there's anything we've learned over the years, both here and in real life, it's that the loudest (who are typically fringe or radical) are NOT in the majority. And also that those "elected" within the bounds of the severely limited number of choices we have at the polls do not truly represent us.

ETA: Or was that tongue in cheek? Haha.

I don't see an option for "Thatcherite", so I'd better stay out of this one.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

At the moment, it appears that the liberal, socialist etc. sorts are at about 33.85%

and

the conservative, constitutional etc. sorts are at about 24.40%

I think it could be argued that the anarchists could logically be lumped in with the liberal sorts . . . resulting in that cluster being about 47.24%.

I'm glad the conservatives number close to 25%. I was expecting closer to 10-15%.

Adding the Libertarians focused on States rights would result in 37.0% for that more conservative cluster.

Interesting. I suspect that IF one were to fairly & objectively code a computer to analyze the posts on the political threads, that the liberal posters would come out with far more plentiful posts at a far shriller level.

It seems clear to me that the roughly 10% greater numbers on the liberal side does not explain in and of itself the far greater number and intensity of liberal posts on ATS.

Sociologically, that's VERY fascinating.

Looking at the results, I guess that'll kill the 'ATS is a far right wing site' junk screamed by some ...

a reply to: BO XIAN Man, I disagree with so much about this "analysis" I don't even know where to begin. A good place I suppose would be to know how you are combining your numbers and then move one to how some very clear biases and perhaps even disappointment appear to be showing in that combining.

Both writing and interpreting polls is a skill and an almost an art, and not many are truly capable of either, which is why I always find polls, partuicularly badly written ones and their results, for the most part useless.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Looking at the results, I guess that'll kill the 'ATS is a far right wing site' junk screamed by some ...

I've always considered those comments to be by globalist shills or by folks who couldn't stand the thought that conservatives had a voice on ATS at all.

It would be nice if the results would nuke that nonsense. However, I don't expect it to. Since when have the facts ever muffled the noise from that constituency?

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Well, looking at the two Libertarian options, they could probably be combined.

Libertarian with a very strong conservative/constitutional leaning.
vs
Libertarian with a stronger focus on states rights.

States' rights and a strong constitutional leaning go hand in hand. The constitution assigns a handful of responsibilities to the federal government. Everything else is delegated to the states.

So if you have a very strong constitutional leaning, you would also be a strong proponent of states' rights.

As of this comment, the Libertarian faction was leading with 26%.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Yeah, the poll could have had a more rigorously logical linear wording of the categories. However, if one had run a cluster analysis on the poll as it is and a more linear wording, I believe the clusters would have come out roughly the same.

IIRC, the initial clusters I totaled together were

Hardline Rep Conservative. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 00.79%
Conservative but not always in line with Rep . . 07.87%
Aligned with the Constitution party . . . . . . . . 01.57%
Tea Party Conservative . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 02.36%
Libertarian but with ...strong consrv/const...... 11.81%
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TOTAL . . . . 24.40%
Libertarian but with ... strong States rights 12.60%
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TOTAL. . . . . . . . . . . . 36.21%

= = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Hardline Dem liberal . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 00.79%
Liberal but not always in line w Dem prty 11.02%
Communist: equalize wealth . . . . . . . . . 04.72%
Green party . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .17.32%
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TOTAL . . .38.85%
Anarchist . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13.39%
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . TOTAL . . . .52.24%

It would be interesting to see how others would slice up/combine the results--LOGICALLY.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: BO XIAN Man, I disagree with so much about this "analysis" I don't even know where to begin. A good place I suppose would be to know how you are combining your numbers and then move one to how some very clear biases and perhaps even disappointment appear to be showing in that combining.

Then come up with a 'more logical' analysis.

I don't consider my analysis to be plagued with significant bias at all.

The clusters I lumped together are all straightforward and LOGICAL.

Those clusters have TYPICALLY CLUSTERED TOGETHER FOR YEARS.

Perhaps you could profit from learning more about clustering as analyzed and depicted with the GRID program at the Univ at Calgary:

WEBGRID 5:

gigi.cpsc.ucalgary.ca:2000...