Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

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Res Ipsa
I haven't read or heard that the plane crashed...why did someone above talk about the souls as if they are dead? Can a plane land somewhere else other than an airport?

The aircraft disappeared from radar in the middle of the ocean.

Either it blew up, crashed into the sea, or it landed on a mysterious island and is now Lost. There are no other possible alternatives. Sorry

i don't understand what the motive would be for terrorism. i suspect some strange electrical malfunction or a crazy person hijacked the plane.... just because they were crazy. not for terrorism's sake. seems weird for a terrorist to pick a malaysian airline unless they flunked terrorism school. but what do i know?

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cockpit data recorders record all the available instrument readings.
cockpit voice recorders record the voices in the cockpit.
if it was catastrophic then the crew will be busy trying to recover plane or praying.
cvr and data emit radio signal for 30 days.

they have thirty days to locate these underwater.

too bad they do not have radar of its catastrophe and final moments.

pasiphae
i don't understand what the motive would be for terrorism. i suspect some strange electrical malfunction or a crazy person hijacked the plane.... just because they were crazy. not for terrorism's sake. seems weird for a terrorist to pick a malaysian airline unless they flunked terrorism school. but what do i know?

Most of the passengers were Chinese. Currently there are big issues in China with the separatist movements in the NW.

Just recently the was an armed attack on subway passengers which the Chinese gov are saying was a terrorist attack by these same elements, originating in Xinjiang. I have read the false flag stuff and I wouldn't put anything past the CCP. Tragic either way.

Take a look at the speedup radar video.

Video missing plane MH370 (Malaysia Airlines) from radar


There might be a first distressed signal (at 36s) by MH370; plane turned red and then normalized again. It deviated, turned red and disappeared toward the end.

Taking into consideration of the Italian and Austrian (stolen passports) imposters, is it a high possibility of hijacking attempt/negotiation went wrong?

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I was thinking the same thing. If it was a hijacking, did something go wrong in the cockpit, or did the plane get shot down? It's odd that not just 1 but 2 people were able to book the flight with stolen passports. Did they actually get on the plane, or just put luggage on the plane? Maybe Malaysia doesn't verify passports through the computer systems just visually. If that's the case lets hope this changes and they start to verify passports through computer systems.

Obviously this is all just speculation. It could just be a plane crash.

Res Ipsa
I haven't read or heard that the plane crashed...why did someone above talk about the souls as if they are dead? Can a plane land somewhere else other than an airport? Chances are that it is the worst case scenario at this point...but it certainly isn't a certainty that someone decide to post as if it was....."all we know" is that this plane is missing....don't go all Fox news on a site that is about denying ignorance.

Flight tracking website flightaware.com showed the plane flew northeast over Malaysia after takeoff and climbed to an altitude of 35,000 feet. The flight vanished from the website’s tracking records a minute later while it was still climbing. ( I took this from some site, "g Captain").........can I please be the first one to say that aliens took the plane like the Bermuda Triangle or like that movie with Cheryl Ladd in it....mmmm...Cheryl Ladd...(in the voice of Homer Simpson)

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I got the "g Captain" thing from the link from the person that posted before me, so read that to find the "while it was still climbing" quote.

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someone already beat you to it...

don't you think the circumstances are rather somber for that kind of comment?

having said that, they should take a plane I'm on

I suspect we either aren't being fully informed, or there has been a compound of errors, both mechanical and human (possibly on the ground) that explain both why the aircraft crashed and why ground staff lost communications. Can't rule out foul play, but it would be awful if true .

That there is the sum truth of where we are at right now in our understanding of this situation.

I would add that, the South China sea probably is monitored more closely by China and the United States then a felon on home arrest. I don't believe you could fly a kite in that area without those Countries knowing where the string attached was made.

Not fully informed is correct, or aliens took it, or went through time and space anomaly, or had a sudden blow up in a million pieces......those are the possibilities......my vote is for, at the very least, that we are not being fully informed....and of course neither China nor the United States wants to reveal just how sophisticated their monitoring is or to what extent.

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yes 239 lives is not to be taken lightly.

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You have written them off I take it? Only in the Bermuda Triangle? I'm not going to play a dirge based on speculation...nor on odds....I don't believe that China and the U.S. wouldn't know where this plane went down and knowing that, they would have leaked the location by now or very soon from now.....Someone(s) knows something....a nice newer modern plane doesn't just go poof without a cause, an external cause....any Bitcoin founders on that plane?

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If that is the case, someone must have known about that first distress signal or at least picked up on it you would think. Seems the plane got a good bit further before whatever happened to make it disappear. Maybe that is part of the key we arent hearing about yet. Someone on the ground knew there was a problem.

Jennyfrenzy
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I was thinking the same thing. If it was a hijacking, did something go wrong in the cockpit, or did the plane get shot down? It's odd that not just 1 but 2 people were able to book the flight with stolen passports. Did they actually get on the plane, or just put luggage on the plane? Maybe Malaysia doesn't verify passports through the computer systems just visually. If that's the case lets hope this changes and they start to verify passports through computer systems.

Obviously this is all just speculation. It could just be a plane crash.

They were two of five people who booked it through and independant Chinese booking service. All other passengers did it through standard means, which makes those five and especially those two stand out.

Unless there is history information about people flying using stolen passports then it might be more common place then one might expect. Could be it amounts to little in this case. I would not be surprised is tracking systems are inaccurate or those using the systems fail often.

They were two of five people who booked it through and independant Chinese booking service. All other passengers did it through standard means, which makes those five and especially those two stand out.

That ups it a bit but then it could be thieves know it is better to go around the standard process. I have no idea with way is less secure though.

How in the hell does a commercial airliner with 230 passengers simply disappear?

onehuman
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If that is the case, someone must have known about that first distress signal or at least picked up on it you would think. Seems the plane got a good bit further before whatever happened to make it disappear. Maybe that is part of the key we arent hearing about yet. Someone on the ground knew there was a problem.

It also continues to climb at what appears a standard rate of acent. Oddly though, it did deviate from it's intended flight path.

Likewise there are three missing hours between loss of contact and Malaysia mobilising SAR. Which is beyond unusual.

Ground control in Malaysia, lost contact exactly 1.5 hours into the flight at a similar time as an SK jet, travelling on a similar initial heading. Both tried to contact the aircraft straight away and in fact relayed concerns and sought confirmations from all regional stations and planes in surrounding airspace and countries.

The three hour gap though that Malaysian authorities can't account for is what worries me.

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The evidence is that they crashed. The altitude and location mean the chance of survivors is incredibly slim.

Res Ipsa
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You have written them off I take it? Only in the Bermuda Triangle? I'm not going to play a dirge based on speculation...nor on odds....I don't believe that China and the U.S. wouldn't know where this plane went down and knowing that, they would have leaked the location by now or very soon from now.....Someone(s) knows something....a nice newer modern plane doesn't just go poof without a cause, an external cause....any Bitcoin founders on that plane?

I disagree. I think the offical story is correct. An aircraft at 35,000ft suddenly disappeared from the radar. We know exactly where it was up until that moment.

But the debris could be anywhere over a very wide area and despite the search efforts, everyone knows the aircraft no longer exists.

The question is why.