Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

reply to post by Zaphod58

Thanks for that info. After seeing the damage that happened with the turbine failure on the Quantas flight, I wondered if something similar may have happened. Still if the plane was some what intact one would think a transmission would have been possible.

As many have mentioned, it's hard to believe the plane just failed in a catastrophic manner.

reply to post by Res Ipsa


Over all the years, when there has been evidence of this type the result has been the same. This would be the first time in history that it didn't crash if it landed somewhere.

So you can talk about probability all you want, but experience says differently.

reply to post by roadgravel


It's always shocking when it happens.

With all that's strange about this incident, what's even more puzzling is the fact that at least two news outlets that were linked in this thread and which I do not believe are hoax sites, reported the identical story about this plane landing in Nanming, China. Where did they get that story? Where did Nanming come from? One site 404d the story and the other posted a "correction".

The two reports of it landing.

Boeing777
Missing plane found safe. Cockpit comms malfunctioned | FZ : Malaysia News - General, Political, National, Business, World

PETALING JAYA (March 8): The missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 has landed safely in China.

fz.com was informed by a source at the Emergency Response Team that the Beijing bound MH370 piloted by Capt Zahari Ahmad Shah had landed this morning at Nanming, Guazhou.

It had lost contact with the control tower at 2.40am, after taking off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) at 12.35am.

According to sources the plane’s transponder (cockpit communications system) had malfunctioned while over Vietnam airspace, causing the loss of communications.

www.fz.com...

Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight Found In Namning (Update)

New reports are coming in that the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft has been found at Nanming, China.

The Malaysia Airlines flight did a supposed Emergency landing, according to OP Capt Sofian Suan.

There has yet to be any confirmation of the state of the 227 passengers which include 2 infants and 12 crew members.

There is also no information as to the cause of the emergency landing of the flight that was originally bound for Beijing China.

We will keep you posted as more develops from MAS.

Update: An official press conference has confirmed that the reports of the plane landing in Namning are inaccurate and the search continues.

Update 2: Reports suggest tat the Vietnamese navy has suggested that the plane went down in the sea around the highest point in Vietnam. Search and rescue efforts are apparently underway.

motoringcrunch.com...

Edit: I have to admit I have no clue what the second site is or why they would have a story about this incident at all. Doesn't appear to be a general world news outlet.

reply to post by Leonidas


I am appreciating your contributions, and reading what you are saying avidly, you make a lot of sense. I just wanted to make that comment, I did not want you to think no one was listening, because I am.

I will add, if it was terrorists they would have claimed it well before now... if anything comes out from this point forward, I would say it would be a lie and a cover-up.

NeoSpace
I thought airports track the planes in real time with GPS these days, surly they have the exact location where communication ceased.

The GPS in is the aircraft, not on the ground. They are tracked by radar, where there is coverage, or by radio position reports, where there is no coverage.

The second site corrected it's story about the Nanning landing. It was probably just re-reporting the earlier false report. Once something pops up on the net it ends up every where, right or wrong.

Would be nice to know the original source though.

Anyone familiar with this radar? Gets weird around the 3:00 mark as a plane to the east changed direction, turns into a question mark, comes back on and accelerates with much greater speed. I have no idea, just wanted to see what you guys know. It sure is strange.

Sorry, I'm on my iPad and haven't figured out how to embed.

YouTube video link

roadgravel
The second site corrected it's story about the Nanning landing. It was probably just re-reporting the earlier false report. Once something pops up on the net it ends up every where, right or wrong.

Would be nice to know the original source though.

Oh I see they read conspiracy forums and then make a news item from them? The first has a name associated with the information. Something does stink here. It doesn't even look like a generic newswire edition. It looks like they had first hand info.

Oh if what you claim is true, then you can believe nothing that is reported.

Edit: The second story has a specific name associated as the source.

Just one more thing to point out. Media has gone wild with the findings of oil slicks in the ocean. If it was a huge explosion that caused the airframe to explode into billions of tiny pieces, there surely wouldn't be an oil slick. Fuel would have burnt in the explosion or scattered into droplets. It could of course have been a smaller explosion that made the aircraft uncontrollable but more or less intact. If that was the case, then surely the pilots would have more than enough time to contact ATC and report Mayday.

reply to post by Leonidas


I had not considered that... good thinking!

reply to post by raedar


IF that's the actual radar display, that was the crash.

Who is OP Capt Sofian Suan? Someone could have made up the name for all we know. Google that name and see it's repeated over and over.

roadgravel
Who is OP Capt Sofian Suan? Someone could have made up the name for all we know. Google that name and see it's repeated over and over.

I obviously have no idea. The other report states - "fz.com was informed by a source at the Emergency Response Team". Now FZ does not look like a tin foil hat site. I would think they try to verify their reports and especially so in a case like this. Something seems amiss. Both report Nanming. They got that from somewhere.

reply to post by Zaphod58


Can we find out where this came from? How did this get on youtube to begin with if it was "missing"?

Whoever that is, this is his only video. But he is Malay apparently.

OpinionatedB
reply to post by Zaphod58

 

Can we find out where this came from? How did this get on youtube to begin with if it was "missing"?

Whoever that is, this is his only video. But he is Malay apparently.

edit on 8-3-2014 by OpinionatedB because: (no reason given)

I was thinking the same. Are those flight displays stored or are they supposed to be real time? If the latter, how would they capture it? I mean they would have to have been recording it in real time as well. But I don't know anything about that site or the way it works.

At least one US TV station reported on air the joke names someone made up of the Asiana flgiht crew at SFO. Errors happen.

reply to post by Bilk22


They seem to be stored, you can do playbacks of whatever location and time you would like from the appearance of this site, pretty cool really...(its the first time I ever saw this site! www.flightradar24.com... )

But they are saying:

" Flightradar24.com ‏@flightradar24 5h

Today's MH370 will probably disappear from FR24 soon, due to bad ADS-B coverage in parts of China."
twitter.com...

Therefore, it is probable this kid saw this tweet and recorded it himself, you can do this if you have the right software on your computer.

My husband and I were just wondering why there wouldn't be wreckage?

Are there any circumstances or past crashes when there wasn't wreckage strewn around? If it landed in the water whole, for example, it would break apart on impact. Things float, right? Seats, luggage....

Just seems weird that there's nothing floating around near the oil slicks.

OpinionatedB
reply to post by Bilk22

 

They seem to be stored, you can do playbacks of whatever location and time you would like from the appearance of this site, pretty cool really...(its the first time I ever saw this site!)

But they are saying:

" Flightradar24.com ‏@flightradar24 5h

Today's MH370 will probably disappear from FR24 soon, due to bad ADS-B coverage in parts of China."

Therefore, it is probable this kid saw this tweet and recorded it himself, you can do this if you have the right software on your computer.

edit on 8-3-2014 by OpinionatedB because: (no reason given)

So since you're the "Czar of Press and Communications" where do you think the story about the flight performing an emergency landing in Nanming came from? It's actually all over the net and not just those two instances I posted above. I mean I can see some type of error picked up and reported by outlets getting it from a newswire, but this was pretty specific in nature. Places and names are associated with it. A few also report the flight was escorted by Chinese fighters as their transponder was not working so they were forced to land. Reporting all that and then it being "an error" just seems implausible.