The quest for planet X continues

Planet X is Nibiru. The Mother Ship of Prince Ea known as Enki . It hanging around Jupiter's moon Europa. Along side
The Federation of Planets, The Andromedans, The Tygetens ,Arterians and the Seeders pluses many more. The reason there is so many species in Sol System 3. Thats the name of our
Solar System on the star chart in this area of the Galaxy. On planet Earth there are so many star seeds that wanted be incarnated here. To help raise up human consciousnes's frequency from a 3rd density to 4th soon after 5th density. The ones in power now on our planet are panicking. Before they would hide their deception on humanity. Now it's so blatantly obvious what their doing.The Kabul is gone and left this solar system. But kept their hybrids and their minions here without Kabul's guidance. And now you can see why everything is starting to be exsposed. They are loosing control of the truth. There is nothing their doing to help in any kind the citizens in America. Their only hurting Americans. This joke of an Administration has lost its grip in reality. Every think they say is a lie.
And repeated bye the main street media. Now we know it's only a tool for misinformation and disinformation.
Like the NGOs are not funded bye our taxes bull crap. That's how they get their money from Goverment grants. One recieved 147,000,000 this year alone. The NGOs are created bye retired politicians from both sides. Now with associates in both partys they can get what's passed then given to the NGOs. Where do you think a lot of those funds wind up? You guessed it in the pockets of the politicians who agreed to the Gov. Grant's. And a lot to fly and buss illegal aliens all over America and South America thru Central America to our border. Bring the illegal aliens. Use the Cartels name to cover their fentinal trafficing through our border.
Single children flown in airplains somewhere. Their saying they have no idea where 85,000 illegal alien
children are. I say BS they know but like usual nothing but lies. It's time when is enough enough??? With much love see ya

a reply to: chr0naut

Just like the moon it was at one time a interstellar space craft. Was damage during the Orion Wars

a reply to: joejoebaby
A Black hole is a entrance to travel from solar system to Solar System. The exit is the star of a
certain solar system you wish to travel to.

originally posted by: joejoebaby
a reply to: joejoebaby
A Black hole is a entrance to travel from solar system to Solar System. The exit is the star of a
certain solar system you wish to travel to.

But the opposite end of a black hole based wormhole would be a white hole. They would be obvious and we haven't seen any.

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Planet X is a Myth . Sitchin was Wrong .

originally posted by: 5thHead
a reply to: Threadbarer

They. Don't have stable orbits. That's how they know it's there. They see the janky orbits and know something really big must be out there pulling on them.

Also, when the planet crosses it is said to cause great problems. Like the great flood for example. Noah was told to build a boat to avoid impending doom. The flood seems to coincide with the end of the ice age. Those are some pretty big effects.

Also, you say "regular basis" as if it means often, which is not the case. 5,000 to 10,000 years may be close to accurate.

It is also becoming main stream science that the asteroid belt was once a planet. Just like the sumerians said so long ago. A planet turned in to a bunch of rocks doesn't seem to stable to me. It looks more likely something "crossed" it's path and really destabilized the thing.

This is especially true, since the asteroids and comets contain samples of all of the strata of a planet: crust and oceans, mantle and core. This would not be true if it was just a collection of material that never formed as a planet.

We currently have a mission to seek out and examine what we think is a core, and that is asteroid 16 Psyche. Some scientists think that besides a massive iron ball, it may contain more platinum, gold and silver than anything we have found here on Earth. While impossible to mine our own core, this thing is naked and cold.

Actually, if we could some day capture it and bring it into Earth orbit to be mined, it would be a good idea to sell all your precious metal holdings well ahead of time!

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: 5thHead

The fact that you're conflating three different cultures that spanned thousands of years that all had different beliefs.

You tried to explain how the stars in Cylinder Seal VA243 are actually planets by referencing Babylonian astronomy and an Akkadian creation myth. This take is completely ignorant of the fact that Sumer did not have any kind of mathematical or scientific form of astronomy. They recognized the Sun and the Moon. All other celestial objects were stars to them.

And now you're bringing in a Neo-Assyrian stela that was created about 3000 years after Sumer ceased to exist.

The word "planet" means "wandering star". It's unlikely anyone in the ancient world knew these "wandering stars" were worlds like Earth is.

I think we should keep our minds open about the possible meaning of a word in a long lost ancient language that is used to describe concepts they didn't really understand as well as we do now.

originally posted by: 5thHead

originally posted by: chr0naut

Yes, I'm arrogant. I also don't believe in much unhistorical BS.

You don't have to believe in something to acknowledge the possibility of said thing.

That's how science works. You'll never learn anything if you don't open your mind to the possible.



So, do you think the powers that be changed the status of Pluto simply so the missing object would be planet 9 rather than 10 ? As in planet X? as in the cross? Or the planet of crossing? I wouldn't put it past 'em. Poor Pluto. You're still a planet in my book.

Excellent point! Since Pluto does, in fact cross the orbit of Neptune and switch places with it as the furthest out.

Also many ancient cultures did not know that the "Evening Star" and the "Morning Star" are the same star: Mercury. So they might have reached 9 planets one planet early.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Station27

originally posted by: chr0naut
The planet would have formed outside of the habitable zone around its star. It would never have been warm enough, for long enough, for life to have evolved.

What on Earth are you talking about? If it was a planet-sized spaceship, it wouldn't have "formed" anywhere. It would have been "built." And I hardly think it's creators would have forgotten to install a climate control system. Do you?

If it is a spaceship the size of a planet, then it won't have the same mass as a solid planet.

The theorised Planet X is because of perturbations in the orbits of the outer planets and planetoids, and also the occasional comet that falls inwards towards the sun from the Oort cloud, and the fairly rational belief that something massive must have disturbed them enough to de-orbit them.

Planet X would be a high-mass ultracold non-luminous object way out in the Oort cloud.

Perhaps the 'watchers' can live in the hard vacuum of interstellar space, feeding off matter and the very weak radiation that they happen upon. Then they wouldn't need a planet and perhaps they could clump together as a colony of aliens. Of course, their metabolism would have to be very, very slow. So much so hat we would define them as inert matter rather than living. They wouldn't be humanoid, and they'd vaporize if they got out of their freezing environment and approached the Earth. That's at least as likely as suggesting that they live in a spaceship for billions of years, so far from a star that there'd be hardly any energy to run things.

The space ship could be much smaller than a planet and still pass for one if it came close enough to Earth. Not like the Sumerians had satellites.

Also their concept that we translate now as "planet" could have had broader meaning to them. A space ship might actually need a supply of gold to coat itself in as protection from cosmic rays and the like. (Although gold is more plentiful in space than on Earth).

a reply to: 5thHead
That's right. No texts about anyone coming down from the sky.
Not a single one.
There IS one text about a guy that flew on the back of an eagle up into the sky, but he was human.

Harte

originally posted by: Station27

originally posted by: chr0naut
The Sumerians had no idea of space above the atmosphere.

So, is that why they identified "12 Planets?" Because they were all on the Earth's surface? It sounds like you're in way over your head.

No planets were identified aby anyone in antiquity, except the ones you can see with the naked eye, and they missed one of those (Uranus, because it changes position too slowly for them to notice.)

Harte

originally posted by: 5thHead
a reply to: chr0naut

If you look at the sky long enough you're going to figure out that some points of light in the sky move differently than others. Some of the planets are visible with the naked eye.

We know these people studied the stars, so how could we be sure they didn't figure out that some are not like the others and put them in a special category?

To say you know is just arrogance.

They did put them in a different category.
They were special stars that move - so they attributed them to the gods.
The Sumerians (and the Babylonians and Assyrians as well) had no idea that those special moving stars were actually other entire worlds.

Harte

originally posted by: 5thHead

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: 5thHead

As I said previously: So you believe the scientists that believe there's a planet in the outer solar system but you don't actually believe any of the science that led them to that hypothesis?

And yes, it is Sitchin's claims. Ask any actual Assyriologist if the Sumerians wrote about aliens that came from the planet Nibiru and they'll laugh in your face.

en.m.wikipedia.org...(Babylonian_astronomy)

Quote from the link:

The Enûma Eliš states:
Nibiru is [Marduk's] star, which he made appear in the heavens... [130-131] The stars of heaven, let him [Nibiru] set their course; let him shepherd all the gods like sheep.[4]"

Well it looks like they did talk about people coming out of the sky (aliens as you degradingly call them)
And yep, they say nibiru is Marduk's star.(Planet)


These aren't sitchin's claims. They are what the sumerians claimed. Sitchin's biggest claim was that the stories the ancient cultures talk about might be more true than we give them credit for.

Just trying to assassinate someone's character is a gross tactic designed to derail the conversation. Truth is the sumerians did talk about people coming out of the sky. ...and nibiru.

Notice the use of the word "star," not planet.
Notice that Marduk caused the star to appear, he didn't come from it.
Epic fail.

The Akkadian cylinder seal impression you've posted here (VA243) contains a date stamp, not a pic of the solar system.
That's Venus shown in a star field,.
IMO, the depiction is one from the Akitu festival. There were two Akitus back then, one for the planting and the other for the reaping (of barley.)
Here's the seal for the second Akitu (IMO,) note the date stamp.


Harte