Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

a reply to: Gaos0

I'm not saying the calculations are insignificant and I'm sure a lot of knowledge was lost over these thousands of years or even unknown for most people even back then.

As for the link with the RFI ... hmmm let's say until it is proven where or from who the 'binary code' is comming from, to me this is merely a spinoff or 'expanded universe'.

Btw, did you think of continental drift in these calculations?

Gary,
Am sure Jim is fully aware of the recent allegations.
Does he deny or accept that he used the Sacred Site for
the co-ordinates? How does he address the recent findings
by others?

a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

Yes, I did think of that. I also thought of a lot of things that would contradict the data . . . but there it is! What I have presented are mathematical facts. No matter how we view them, they are there and remain as facts. And in a conversation I had with Robert Bauval, he agreed with me that it's like the quantum physicists who realised that the world is stranger than we could ever imagine at the quantum level and at first could not accept it, but in the end they had to conclude that it's just how it is.

a reply to: mirageman

A hint for your investigation, if you are still interested:

Amado Crowley

Now this fellow had nothing to do with the original RFI incident, but I'm thinking
that some of the cult members in this group are still "hangers on" to this whole
event, trying to weave it together with their philosophy and goals.

Back a few years ago, when "Armageddon.co.uk" and the "Meritocracy party"
were all the rave on ATS and the web, I tracked down the source of their
movement, to the exact crowley group, and even their website.

They are a really sad bunch, with huge delusions of grandeur.

I'll leave it at that.

Kev

I bring this facebook post up for a reason.

It demonstrates a comment by a person who is wanting to understand.

There is Johns response

And there is Gary's.

There is no ways under current conditions with Jim and the binary
anyone will accept without question, regardless of any findings
of Gary's nor how meaningful they may appear.

The bottom line. Jim needs to clear the mess up
He should address the Sacred Site Stuff, he should also
clear up and perhaps demonstrate a little re his contact
with OKM and the recent story re the glyphs.

There are a million questions but it is not fair for the public
to have to be constantly hammered they must look at
research which is not even on the table and accept without
question BEFORE other things are considered and addressed.
No one is stopping you with your findings Gary and I know
full well what you mean when you try to get across what you are
trying to explain. But it wont work in the present conditions.
There is too much in the Jim story for others to accept
without question.

Once your findings are out, a different matter perhaps?
But they are not out and Jim has addressed nothing.

For now, there are some things to look at this afternoon
according to John?.



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a reply to: Marylongstockings

"Gary and I know full well what you mean when you try to get across what you are trying to explain. But it wont work in the present conditions.

. . . Hence, my post about it being easier for most people to focus their attention on the dramas.

a reply to: Gaos0

John Burroughs:
"Like I said David Pearce Later today I will be posting 2 statements that have been clearly over looked for several different reason. It might surprise people what I point out."


Gary Osborn:
"And that will make absolutely no difference to me and my own position on this. I think I will just allow you and Jim to slug it out. No wonder people are going off this case. That's a shame, as the very thing that I think is important to come out of this case, people are attempting to rip on and are prepared to bury before the results are published. What does that say? Who, or what, is behind that?"

End quote:

Bah, this whole thing has turned into a he said/she said soap opera

a reply to: vlawde

:-)))))))

Jim is sitting back until everyone has exhausted themselves with their so-called evidence or proof that he is a liar and has been deceiving people, and then, and only then, will he make his statements - much of it going into the book which is being written for the record.
Personally, he has been through these "tit for tat" debates and has had enough.
He asked me if I was having fun . . .

originally posted by: Gaos0
a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

Yes, I did think of that. I also thought of a lot of things that would contradict the data . . . but there it is! What I have presented are mathematical facts. No matter how we view them, they are there and remain as facts. And in a conversation I had with Robert Bauval, he agreed with me that it's like the quantum physicists who realised that the world is stranger than we could ever imagine at the quantum level and at first could not accept it, but in the end they had to conclude that it's just how it is.

Oh, please, Gary. The fact that you can perform some basic geometric calculations doesn’t make you a Niels Bohr or an Erwin Schrödinger.

Your assumption about the Egyptians knowing what a meter was is very far-fetched.
There is a much simpler explanation.

Look at this picture.
You rightfully conclude that h/0,5a = 4/π
This means hπ = 2a, in other words: a = πh/2

The Egyptians needed a way of knowing how large the base of a pyramid had to be to reach a certain height.
They did not even have to know the value of π to do it:
You take a roller, and ask the King how many rollers his pyramid should be in height.
The King answers: 100.
Now you take a piece of rope that is as long as the circumference of the roller, and use 50 of these lengths for the base of the pyramid to get a pyramid that is 100 rollers in height.
A very useful rule of thumb, since they started at the base of the pyramid and hence had to get it right the first time.
This rule of thumb will automatically yield the ratio a = πh/2, since one length of rope is πh, 50 lengths will be π100h/2.
No meters involved, not even knowledge of π, but just a roller and a piece of rope.

For any sphere, like the Earth, the ratio between Diameter D and Circumference C is given as D = C/π
Since the Earth’s Circumference is approximately 40000 km, D = 40000/π

Two totally unrelated topics, each with its own natural explanation.

And completely unrelated to the binary codes…

You go ahead and publish your book, Gary. It’ll always find some audience.
But don’t expect it to be, to use Jim’s words, of ‘Biblical Proportion’.
Not many buyers here, I’m afraid…

a reply to: Guest101

"The fact that you can perform some basic geometric calculations doesn’t make you a Niels Bohr or an Erwin Schrödinger."

I never assumed that at all. Funny.

Yes, of course, that works. BUT, you are missing some very important factors like the East Side dimensions that present us with the combined proportions of the Earth and Moon, and other factors associated with the 'speed of light' constant which can be discovered ten times within the dimensions of the Great Pyramid and even in its latitude location.
One of these factors is the close relationship that the Great Pyramid has with the true 'Geographical Center of the Earth'. Along with the latitude location of the Great Pyramid, Phi is expressed.
What is clearly shown to us, is the close relationship between 'c' and the constants pi, phi and 'e.'
In light of the things I have been discovering, there are two mathematicians who would laugh at your rebuttal to explain this all away - logical and simple though it is. It doesn't explain everything and there are other factors that point to the possibility that the architects knew the metre unit, which I have not revealed as yet.
As for the code. You have not worked out the additional information in the seven coordinates and have no idea what the seven coordinates are pointing to, which actually inspired the discovery of all these factors that are clearly encapsulated within the dimensions of the Great Pyramid.
If, and when you do that, then you can come back and we will discuss it again.

And btw, the GP dimensions given on the page you linked are wrong. They would never work to produce all the fascinating data I have now determined in which it all finally makes sense.

originally posted by: vlawde
Bah, this whole thing has turned into a he said/she said soap opera

That's all it ever was.

Kev

a reply to: Gaos0



...Oh Vienna

a reply to: Gaos0

I was re - reading through this post Gary

Quote . Even if Jim's story falls apart, and it hasn't yet, as he has yet to answer certain questions, you will still have to explain away the additional information the coordinates produce.
If Jim did devise the code and lifted the coordinates from the Internet, then he would have had to pick a particular set of coordinates that together produce the information I have found.
Jim would also have had to have read everything he could about the research I had been working on in the ten years leading up to my involvement – i.e., various concepts, theories and discoveries of mine (many of which are quite complex – especially the geometric/geodetic information, which he would have had to understand and replicate in such a way that he could then encode it).

Having got to know Jim end quote.



My question to you. Have you met Jim yet? You say you have got to know him.

But , this does not rule out anyone associated with Jim, it cant be ruled out.

All the above is total assumption.

Ronnie Dugdale presented some research to Jim , the
research was specific and was not public knowledge.
When Ronnie produced this and it was on Hy Brazil
Jim said he already KNEW. Which was not
technically possible

So I would assume nothing.

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There's your UFO guys.

originally posted by: Boilerplate

www.edwards.af.mil...

There's your UFO guys.

Sorry but you are two and a half years late to the party on this one.

See : www.abovetopsecret.com...

There were no reports of helicopters in the skies on the 25th/26th Dec. But if the 67th ARRS Apollo Recovery Team based at Woodbridge really did drop an Apollo boiler plate in the forest on Xmas night then where exactly did it go on Boxing Day when the British Police and the US Air Force went out to the landing site and found no such thing there.

You then have to explain why Colonel Halt goes out two nights later looking for UFOs again. Did the ARRS go out again and drop the thing once again for more laughs and fly around whilst no one hears the choppers and nothing is seen on radar?

Doesn't seem likely to me.

a reply to: mirageman

Hi mirageman,

Thanks, that was entertaining. I know what you mean.
Anyway, this is my last post on here, for now. I really don't see the point in carrying on with all this now and at this time.
I'm sure Jim will explain his side of things when he is ready to, but I have other things to keep me busy.

a reply to: Gaos0

But, it was going to be about John
if the book was going to go ahead.
You were going to fit the codes into
Johns story.