Rendlesham Forest…, A Christmas Story from 1980 - Can We ‘Let it Be’?

I'm not certain. It would jive with a Condign plasma.

a reply to: AdamE

Adam did you ever look into the story behind the Karen Tapes?

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: AdamE

Adam did you ever look into the story behind the Karen Tapes?

If my memory serves me well, I saw something on John's page a while back now. I don't remember If I ever mentioned it on here, although I must say, I did not chase this up.

I have just seen a post on facebook from a site I am a member of.

I know you have reservations on some aspects on the Remote Viewing but hot off the press (and also give credence to things we have discussed)

(As printed from the site)

The purpose of the target is:

My sense is that this is a flight test involving re-entry. This test may have gone badly.

3. Radiation was measured – what is the source?

Radiation source is:
The force field generator is producing the radiation, and it is being emitted from the object in both an outward as well as a downward direction. This is a result of on-board radioactive materials being used in the Force Field Generator [FFG].

4. What is the origin(s) and mission of the object as witnessed by people on site?

Origin(s) and mission of the object as witnessed are:
Object comes from an overhead launch and recovery vehicle which originates from somewhere in the south-western area of the United States. It appears to be a lab facility.

Its mission was to test – launch, evasive flight, and recovery operations under cover of darkness near some other flight facility. If it was perceived while on mission, then subsequent or additional mission essentials were to determine any possible human emotional reactions under duress/stress.

www.remoteviewingufos.com...

a reply to: AdamE

Which one of the 3 things do you favour best Adam ? Just wondering.

a reply to: AdamE

I've sent you a link with some more information. Check your personal messages.(The small envelope in the top right corner).

originally posted by: 1ofthe9
I'm not certain. It would jive with a Condign plasma.

Not much jives at the moment imho .

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Godric

Do continue...... I'm not paralyzed with it!

The Karen Tapes are a great read MM.

Some of this would seem, fit in with the remote viewing carried out by Joe M, only the difference being whose 'secret Property is it?'

Colonel Halt last night spoke of witnesses seeing a larger Triangular shape craft, like a 'Mothership' in an interview I was listening to, through the Dark Matters Network.

And considering the shape of such craft are normally spotted in and around the area both past and present, one would expect them to be ours.

Michael Schratt speaks volumes on the subject too...

I am still in the mind of thinking the object/drone (the first night) supposed to land within the base, but missed.

I am always willing to move on this, just not right now.

Thanks Adam. It's not definitive and may not even be true but that is yet another part of the story to ponder.

I am a bit hesitant of Halt's claims as he seems to enjoy selling the odd pork pie in my opinion. I have my doubts anything was due to land at the base based on what I've read and heard down the years as well. Another local base? Maybe.

Addressing the whole thread there is a news report out today that's very interesting.

Watch the video above and listen carefully for what sounds like a human voice during the second spin. That’s not an audio recording or a broadcast transmitted over radio…it’s not human at all. It’s an auditory effect that’s created by military scientists who manipulated the air with lasers....

The weapon is composed of two parts: first, a femtosecond laser, which shoots a burst of focused light for 10−15 seconds, just long enough to rip the electrons from air molecules and create a ball of plasma....

The scientists then hit that plasma field with a second nanolaser, tuned to an extremely narrow range of wavelengths. They use that to manipulate the plasma field in a way that can produce light and noise. Get the interaction precise enough and you get something that sounds like a haunted walkie-talkie....

Source : www.defenseone.com...

Could we do this 37 years ago though?

a reply to: AdamE

It’s worth noting that this is very similar to the narrative espoused by the APEN group. I won’t go into it here but there are strong signs that APEN was the creation of people looking to destroy U.K. UFOLOGY.

Essentially, they succeeded in the overall goal but they did not succeed in spreading a Karan like narrative.

A similar story also comes from A scientist involved with HOTOL.

What’s interesting is that they all spread stories of satellite control through lasers which was utter BS. I had this confirmed a while back, but now you’ll even hear people like Doty admit what this technology did was blind soviet satellites.

Never underestimate how much interested parties would over egg and exaggerate technologies during the Cold War. They were often far less sophisticated or reliable than they wanted the Soviets to know...

So the question is - was APEN and therefore Karan correct?

a reply to: Godric

No one appears to be chomping re your Condign suggestion. Perhaps you have something different to offer on it all.

a reply to: Godric

No need to be rude because you don't seem to know that APEN is linked to RFI .

a reply to: Godric

For what it's worth... "CTJ83" is a respected member of these forums..
On the other hand, there are other members of these forums who have
not yet earned that respect.

a reply to: mirageman

What a great read, and also something I will look closely into, as requested.

a reply to: ctj83

I agree with your 'there are strong signs that APEN was the creation of people looking to destroy U.K. UFOLOGY.'

But one reason seems to be that there was worry at the time that UFO groups may well be infiltrated by the unwanted such as the IRA or Soviets.

The last people you would want sniffing around NATO Bases and the like.

Even more so, as Black aircraft were being flown out of Mildenhall not to far away.

As well as 'other things' being potentially stored at the twin bases.

The Soviets, imo were far behind the West when it came to exotic type aircraft.

The Soviets even started to copy and build their own version of the Space Shuttle.

a reply to: AdamE

Very good points Adam. I agree. There is no doubt in my mind that there will have been infiltration of UFO groups by various political forces.

I'd strongly recommend if you haven't looked into the following topic - anti Gravity research in the UK. However, not for the reasons, you might think. I imagine that you can do far more with this than I can.

You may be aware of Nick Cook (a UK defence journalist) and his work researching anti gravity and zero point energy. It resulted in a book and a few documentaries. If you haven't, watch "Billion Dollar Secret" - but also read the book it is based on: "The Hunt For Zero Point".

What you will discover is that the genesis of Cook's hunt begins with:
- Noticing anti-gravity research went underground in the mid-50s
- That the B2 engines cannot provide enough thrust for the weight ratio

Here is where this story is relevant for the RFI. Nick is contacted by a UK whistleblowing scientist, who works for a major UK university in aerospace. He knows a team near Blackpool that were working on anti gravity - called project Greenglow.

Project Greenglow started in 1986 - as a result of the work of Dr Ron Evans, and the late Professor Brian Young of Salford University. The name "green glow" came from previous experiments the team had done using plasma to create control surfaces on wings, apparently successfully.

They also worked on GRADAR.

Nick Cook encountered them several times, giving anti gravity/defence aerospace presentations. The whistleblower that contacted Nick about anti-gravity technology being real was at the same talks and presentations in the 1980s.

He is referred to as Dr Dan Marckus, a pseudonym and lives near Bawdsey.

I realise that this might seem complex but here is why I think it's relevant to the RFI:
- A team of UK scientists, involved in Stealth in the 70s, then plasma aerospace until the mid 80s then antigravity
- Among the names that Cook wrote down in these presentations to followup with was "Dr Dan Markcus"
- Dr Marckus lived in Bawsey, was very knowledgeable on radar, friends with Hal Puthoff and one of the original researchesr of the "Nazi Bell" and zero point energy.

My point being, if the RFI has a black tech explanation, these people (Dr Ron Evans, "Dr Dan Marckus") the late may have had some awareness or direct connection?

Nick Cook has spent the past year putting together an excellent video diary series on YouTube recapping the writing of his book.

I'd also recommend watching Horizon: Project Greenglow