Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson: The Latest Victim of the PC Police

luciddream
reply to post by WWJFKD

But Noooo. He has to comment on someone else's lifestyle and compare it to something not related because a book told him to.

Robertson was asked, in an Interview. Are you aware of how interviews work?

He said nothing hateful, unless you count ( as many ignorant do ) the Bible as Hate Speech.

reply to post by TheWrightWing


You don't have to answer every question you're asked. Some questions/answers are appropiate for interviews, others are not. He could have easily said "I really don't care to discuss religion today, next question"...

jhn7537
reply to post by TheWrightWing

 

You don't have to answer every question you're asked. Some questions/answers are appropiate for interviews, others are not. He could have easily said "I really don't care to discuss religion today, next question"...

Who are you to determine what is sufficiently appropriate to ask in an interview or not?

Would you pass a law outlining what interview topics are restricted?

Some of us are an open book, ask us what we think, and by God, we'll tell you.

jhn7537
reply to post by TheWrightWing

 

You don't have to answer every question you're asked. Some questions/answers are appropiate for interviews, others are not. He could have easily said "I really don't care to discuss religion today, next question"...

And here we see just what is wrong with this country. It has been a long held belief "We don't discuss religion or politics because it only leads to argument". I submit to you that not talking about religion and specifically politics has done much to get us to where we are as a society. Walk forward, don't look around you and for God's sake don't say anything.

TheWrightWing

jhn7537
reply to post by TheWrightWing

 

You don't have to answer every question you're asked. Some questions/answers are appropiate for interviews, others are not. He could have easily said "I really don't care to discuss religion today, next question"...

Who are you to determine what is sufficiently appropriate to ask in an interview or not?

Would you pass a law outlining what interview topics are restricted?

Some of us are an open book, ask us what we think, and by God, we'll tell you.

I just responded with a point to yours that not every question asked needs an answer. Many celebrities refuse to touch certain topics or ask for the next question because religion, politics and money are typically topics that people have strong views on and tend to keep those to themselves... Pass a law? lol... you religious peeps sure are funny.... No I wouldn't pass a law, haha, but if I'm a celebrity (which I'm not) and going into an interview I would set certain parameters for the interview...

addygrace

ProfessorChaos

addygrace
Why does this guy get canned for telling the truth. Homosexuality is a sin. Is A&E claiming it's not? It's lumped in there with every other sin, such as beastiality.

To be fair, it is not a sin to people that do not believe that it is a sin, however it is common knowledge that it would be considered a sin by someone with Phil's belief system, so this is clearly a setup to send a message to the public.

"Accept and/or embrace things that you disagree with, or you will be punished."

He's basing it being a sin on the fact it's in the Bible. Nobody's being unfair. We don't get to pick and choose what we think is a sin. It's in the Bible.

The point that I was trying to make, which I think you may have misunderstood, is that not everyone believes in the Bible, therefore, just because the Bible labels something as sinful, doesn't mean that they are going to view it that way. I'm not accusing anyone of being unfair, I was allowing for the fact that there are plenty of people that don't believe in the sins set forth by the Bible, so why would they consider them as such?

I'm a Christian, and I view sin as sin, but my neighbor, who partakes in sinful behavior, may not feel that he is sinning, if he is not a Christian.

reply to post by jhn7537


Quite right. He should have said I'll do this interview but I don't want it to in any way reflect who I really am or any values I may support. This would have eliminated any need for this meaningful discourse, Oh well surely others will learn from his failure and keep their damn mouth shut.

Do you see how this works. Before you know it - and were not so far away now. No one will speak their minds because everytime someone dares they face real consequences and that is how you stifle free speech by getting the people to willfully give it up because its just not worth it.

WWJFKD
reply to post by jhn7537

 

Quite right. He should have said I'll do this interview but I don't want it to in any way reflect who I really am or any values I may support. This would have eliminated any need for this meaningful discourse, Oh well surely others will learn from his failure and keep their damn mouth shut.

edit on 20-12-2013 by WWJFKD because: (no reason given)

Why does religion even need to come into a discussion? I see many interviews every day where the subject of god isn't even brought up.. Some how they find a way to still do an interview....You can find a lot out about a person without ever touching religion. Someones religious beliefs doesn't define who they are...

luciddream
reply to post by Khaleesi

 

No, that is your way of looking at his interview because you share his views.

He connected Homosexuality to Bestiality like many Religious do. Only thing he forgot to do is add the usual line of "what is next? pedophilia"...

They go down the slippery slope fallacy is like there is no tomorrow.

You obviously have not read all of my posts on this thread. I am a LESBIAN and I have stated that on this thread before. No, I do not "share his views". I just believe he has a right to his opinion and shouldn't be censored. I love the mind reading of some of the posters here. "Oh he was thinking pedophilia and just didn't say it." If I were to say "You were thinking ____, you just didn't say it", I believe you would let me know I shouldn't try to read minds either. Your slippery slope is reading people's minds.

reply to post by jhn7537


Because its something that he obviously feels very strongly about and he wanted to share in a meaningful look into his beliefs not some average fluff piece in which nothing substantive is shared. He was asked a question he answered it truthfully according to his beliefs and for being honest he must be punished for having a viewpoint so outside of the establishment norm.

WWJFKD
reply to post by jhn7537

 

Because its something that he obviously feels very strongly about and he wanted to share in a meaningful look into his beliefs not some average fluff piece in which nothing substantive is shared. He was asked a question he answered it truthfully according to his beliefs and for being honest he must be punished for having a viewpoint so outside of the establishment norm.

So, say I'm on a hit show and am interviewed and asked a question pertaining to religion. What if I responded back with "I'm a Satan worshiper and hate god"..... Would I have the right to do that? Also, if I was booted off my show would you feel the same way?

Just playing a little devils advocate here...

reply to post by jhn7537


If you are asking me as an individual I'll say what I always do - Do your thing man - I aint hatin ya. I'm just tired of seeing people face real consequences, financial, corrective, what have you consequences for speaking their mind. The effect it has had on this country is undeniable. Let the public decide. They can change the channel and nielsen will let the network know what the impact was.

WWJFKD
reply to post by jhn7537

 

If you are asking me as an individual I'll say what I always do - Do your thing man - I aint hatin ya. I'm just tired of seeing people face real consequences, financial, corrective, what have you consequences for speaking their mind. The effect it has had o this country is undeniable. Let the public decide. They can change the channel and nielsen will let the network know what the impact was.

I can agree with you that it sucks that speaking your mind can come with consequences, but that's the world we live in today and I understand that many live by the "stick and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me" motto, but I believe words can be nuclear to a lot of people, depending on the framework of how something is being said. I'm sympathetic of the gay community because I've seen first hand gay couples (who I'm friends with) be bullied/hated on and it does hurt them, a significant amount. I would never want anyone to ever feel how they've felt from total stranger because of who they're attracted to in life. I feel that we live in a very cold world today. Someone being gay does not effect me in any way shape or form. I live my life with the "to each their own", meaning, if you're gay your gay, if you're straight, you're straight, you can be black, white, yellow, mentally challenged, atheist, agnostic, catholic, etc. As long as you treat others right, I'll never have a problem with you.

The political correct people are the most hateful anti-tolerant group on planet

I'm happy the rest of the family is standing with Phil and have threatened to all walk off.

In America you have the right to offend and be offended

A&E are acting like a pack of assburger teens

I agree 100% with Phil, I dont like those that sleep around, homosexual behavior, bestiality, etc also but just as Phil said thats my personal opinion.

reply to post by jhn7537

So, say I'm on a hit show and am interviewed and asked a question pertaining to religion. What if I responded back with "I'm a Satan worshiper and hate god"..... Would I have the right to do that? Also, if I was booted off my show would you feel the same way?

We don't have to use you as an example.

There are other cases with actual famous people.
Eonline

The link has some of the anti-gay remarks made by other famous people. If you read the article, you will see the slurs that some of them used. Phil didn't use any slurs.

WWJFKD
A very loud, active, vocal minority is tearing this country apart at the
seams. Its time the majority stand up proudly and stop cowering under
the pressure of this minority. PC should have been DOA its time to kill
it, before it kills anymore of us.

Agreed wholeheartedly!!

luciddream
reply to post by bbracken677

 

It is legal to get fired for hate speech at work place.

Paraphrasing the Bible is hardly a definition of hate speech. You do, actually, know exactly what he said, no?

Funny how one can refer to what he said as "hate speech".

Buffoonery

Zoyd23
Another example of the new parameters of free speech...liberals can bash away at organized religion and call tea party members all kinds of nasty names, but step on a gay or black toe and the liberal media will demonize you an anyone that defends you.

What happened to everybody being allowed to have an opinion?

This is fascism....this is the new America. I don't like it at all.

Total Agreement!!

The guy is being bashed for his religious beliefs.

He is, in a sense, being bashed for not lying, for denying is basic beliefs. That is as wrong as it gets.

Since when is being honest a bad character trait?

oh, yeah, since the PC police made their debut...

jhn7537
reply to post by ChesterJohn

 

Did you call me a prehistoric dinosaur.....hahaha

I always found it odd living your life by a book a fiction. I believe religion is for the weak-minded and that they NEED something to gravitate to. I'm not religious and my life is just fine. I'm not committing crimes or acting like a nut ball.. It's amazing how far common sense can take you today..

But if you need religion to feel purpose, have at it... I won't stop you...

edit on 20-12-2013 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)

You were the one quoting it in ignorance not I.

Taking a step back and looking at the situation, I am wondering if ol' Phil did not pull a fast one on A&E. People, well non-country type folks, seem to think country folks are just dumb, ignorant and stupid. I can personally attest to knowing quite a few millionaire country folk. Do you really think Phil Robertson built a $400,000,000.00 empire by being stupid?

Sure, he has been talking about his beliefs for years, but he has not been published in a major magazine that panders to the left, and has lots of gay male readers such as GQ. Could it be that the Robertson's might be a lil tired of Hollyweird? I don't think they care about flashy events, tuxedo's, and the trappings of wealth, and at this point they have more than enough money to do anything they want to do, and maybe they don't like their scheduled lives anymore.

Could it be that ol' Phil played A&E, knowing what they would probably do, and thus have a legitimate reason to walk away? Could it be A&E was cutting in too much on Duck Commander income by selling their stuff? Could it be this is massive free publicity, and it's a winning gambit for the Robertsons? A&E looks like they got played to me by a pretty crafty country boy.