The report on Sandy Hook has just been released by the state's attorney's office.

It looks odd. I mean if someone came through the broken glass there I would think chances are it would not be at such a perfect 90 degree angle. Also it seems the other chair next to the glass there would be askew. It doesn't make a lot of sense someone shooting his way into a building would be so careful coming through the glass.

reply to post by opal13


If you read the reports in one of them a officer even says he went through that hole the window . So it was supposed to be well traveled hole in the window.

Still can't put a period directly after the word window . Or you get this window.

CT Police Report for Sandy Hook


Here's a link to the heavily redacted, full report released today at 3:00.

See what you can make out of it.

reply to post by JBA2848


yeah i get it

the ram framage da window bran damit the brain damaged

Have they added new files? I am seeing things I did not see there before. Videos, photos, wave files, all sorts of audio files. Allegedly photos of the scenes in the school? I don't recall all this being there before? Someone posted they just released it this past Friday. All I saw when I went to the link previously was the redacted report and redaction index. Now there are literally dozens of files, zip files with videos, photos, etc.
Anyone?

cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov...
cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov...
cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov...
cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov...

cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov...

cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov...

cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov...
Includes 22 photos

Did I miss all if this the first time I went to read the report?



Sorry, thought the links would actually open the vids. And, I rechecked the post, and it clearly states a new release Friday, Dec. 27.

I really don't remember seeing any of this, and I think if it were there, this discussion may be different. So, go check it out. I could be wrong.

So, I was watching the video of the vehicle processing of the green honda where I put forth the claim that a gunshot was fired from inside the car.

Funny thing, when the video camera gets to the point they are about to show that bullet hole....

CONTENT REDACTED

... then the video continues, and shows another car, the tag has an expired 2007 registration tag on it. A whole other car, but noteworthy.

I stand by my claim, it's an exit bullet hole, else, why redact the content? There is logically NO OTHER REASON.

An exit bullet hole does not fit the O.S., there is no reasonable way to explain it away. None.

reply to post by Libertygal


They released the entire report yesterday afternoon.

opal13
reply to post by Libertygal

 

They released the entire report yesterday afternoon.

Thanks for the confirmation. I was thinking I was going nuts. Lol.

Wow lots to download and look through. Lots redacted, but, most of it I have run across so far would be the blood and guts stuff, which I don't care to see anyway.

Very, very curious though, why every single entry door to the Lanza home was forced entry IN to the house. Every single one, and that garage door, too, the overhead forced open, then the interior door.

Wierd, but the front door looks kicked in, leaf and dirt particles all over the entry way, the bathroom floor, then up the stairs, and straight to Nancy Lanza's bedroom.

Sigh. Then, the basement door is kicked in. Why? If it was 'first responders', why kick in every door? I could see one, but every single door? Makes no sense. It almost felt like, well, multiple attackers. It's disconcerting, watching that video, the to see the pictures.

reply to post by Libertygal

I really haven't had any time to look at any of it. But what you mentioned about the doors being kicked in makes me wonder. Remember the info on Adam Lanza that had his death on 12/13 then was changed? (The original that was posted here was removed). If several people did break into the home, it would confirm questions about multiple gunmen. Of course law enforcement could have broken in like that not knowing what to expect. But it seems they would be more careful about tracking in debris into a possible crime scene.

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Thanks so much for posting the links. This is mounds of additional information - more than the original report I think. Many of the text PDF files are nothing but reports from officers where they went to inform family members, took personal items from the school to them etc. Mundane stuff but I'm willing to go through each and every one.

As for the pictures I'm troubled by the green Honda and the blue Camry next to it. If you look at how they're parked next to each other I don't see how it could have been hit in the rear door. The bullet entry appears to be on a nearly perpendicular path (sideways) to the vehicle. The Toyota van on the other side of Rousseau's Honda was hit in the radiator and in one group of pictures shows the radiator fluid all over the parking lot.

Lanza's car after dusting for prints appears to show glove marks instead of fingerprints on the door handle and frame.

There are many other questions being raised in my mind but I want to be thorough and go through all the material first before bringing them up for discussion here.

Any new posts I will list those files I have gone through and would ask others to do the same. This way we can cover all the material without everyone having to look through every part.

I am now responding!
Here again for the newbies and the old timers that say this is a Hoax........ Look at my past threads.

I invite any body to come to my town and you can see the graves and maybe talk to some of the parents,

Once again.... short and sweet I went to three Funerals and have first responders that are still screwed up!

Great if you think it is fake ....come to the horses mouth ... I will show you!


Now how many will come foward???

I did this challenge many times and no one had the guts to come here!

Helious

MOMof3
reply to post by Helious

 

Read the report.

Your statement was that he was serial killer crazy. I asked you to provide a qualifying basis for that statement. You offered that I should read the report.

I have read the report, and a whole lot of other reports.

What is the basis for stating what you claim, outside of the report that was just put out by "authorities". Is there co berating testimony from those that knew Lanza? Is there a wealth of information about him being a problem child within the community?



Do you have a detailed report from his medical records that labels him as manic or anything such as this? You're basing your entire opinion on this report. That is a fact and it's ok. If your willing to accept what you are told without questioning, that is your natural right to do so.

With that said, I choose not to just believe what I am told, I choose to ask questions, questions that sometimes are not popular but should and need to be asked. I don't see the evidence that you see because I can't personally trust a report that I view as disingenuous. Accountability is the name of the game in today's America, people are sick of, I didn't know, maybe it's possible, I wasn't informed. It's rampant, out of control and smacks of progressive agenda.

Our government has a PROVEN history of lying to achieve social and political agendas, it's not up for debate, it's factual. When approaching a situation that has a high motive for agenda pushing that doesn't add up outside of "official" context, I would venture to say it is our duty to ask questions, the hard ones because if we don't, we end up with things like the Patriot Act.

Hows that working out for Americans? Want some more of that? Let them go ahead and take the guns, See what legislation follows. Pick up a history book and spare yourself the read of the official story of SH.

edit on 25-11-2013 by Helious because: (no reason given)

I respect your opinion!

Helious
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, I really do. The American government is arming for war, it has been for some time starting with the Patriot Act, continuing with the formation and buildup of the DHS and the militarization of our police force nationwide.

Lets face some inconvenient facts, shall we. Terrorism, is just not that big of a threat. It doesn't justify the DHS, it doesn't justify the TSA and it doesn't justify the constant stripping of personal liberty that we now endure on a daily basis. Yet, it continues on.

Recognize things for what they are and even if you do not or cannot do anything else, apply critical thinking to what has been and is taking place in America. Open your eyes very wide and look around, it's downright scary.

Bother I agree with you%100!

I am sorry... I posted this to get the info out.... but I am not going crazy looking at every comment... I went to services on the one year after... it was sad..not a dry eye...very sad it's still bad in Newtown and all the people that knows the families . Good night my friends.

Asktheanimals
reply to post by Libertygal

 

Thanks so much for posting the links. This is mounds of additional information - more than the original report I think. Many of the text PDF files are nothing but reports from officers where they went to inform family members, took personal items from the school to them etc. Mundane stuff but I'm willing to go through each and every one.

As for the pictures I'm troubled by the green Honda and the blue Camry next to it. If you look at how they're parked next to each other I don't see how it could have been hit in the rear door. The bullet entry appears to be on a nearly perpendicular path (sideways) to the vehicle. The Toyota van on the other side of Rousseau's Honda was hit in the radiator and in one group of pictures shows the radiator fluid all over the parking lot.

Thank you!
Lanza's car after dusting for prints appears to show glove marks instead of fingerprints on the door handle and frame.

There are many other questions being raised in my mind but I want to be thorough and go through all the material first before bringing them up for discussion here.

Any new posts I will list those files I have gone through and would ask others to do the same. This way we can cover all the material without everyone having to look through every part.

reply to post by Libertygal

Thank you!

reply to post by Asktheanimals


Just so you know, in case you did not visit the page, there are lots more links. One of the pdf files I got had almost 500 photos in it, alone.

I would like to assume you went to the page, but you know what they say about assuming!

ETA: I can only agree about the cars, and I have been saying this from day one, since seeing those bullet holes the first time. If you draw the trajectory from the car to the school, not the school to the car (which always seems to somehow work for naysayers) it won't cut it. Not any of them. Not the side entry shots, and not the one on the windshield fram that appears as an exit shot. And why did they redact it? It's driving me up a wall! Not even the bumper shot on the front bumper could have been from the school. Did you note that downward trajectory? It would have HAD to go through the SUV parked in the front row. Sigh.

And, there is still the rust around the bullet hole. Smh.

poreply to post by nighthawk1954


I do NOT think this was a hoax. Period.

I do, however, think that many things about it, and the explanations, do not add up.

That being said, I do think a terrible tragedy happened, but I think the who, what, where, when, and why are not adding up to reality. Perhaps Adam was involved, as a patsy, scapegoat, who knows. I can tell you he exhibited physical changes and signs of hyperthyroidism, especially his eyes, which is called exopthalmos. This can lead to mental illness, paranoia, and other mental issues. I have posted about this in the past.

I have also posted in the past that there has been a HUGE push in the gun control mantra in the use of the 'mental illness' as an issue towards gun control. Obviously, anyone that does something like this has mental issues to begin with, but the push has been towards mental illness screening prior to gun purchasing. This part is particularky concerning, because it borders on thought police. Especially because any sane person, at any given time, can slip mentally, and do something stupid. There are no guarantees in life. However, there are murmers about banning gun ownership from anyone that has ever had counseling, depression, or any mental health issue. Let me tell you, that would be about 99% of the population. Who does not experience emotions of some depth in divorce, death of someone close, etc.? It is indeed, a touchy subject.

Anyway, I think most people, aside from again, the extremists that pop in on occasion, feel it did happen, but something just isn't right about the whole thing. Something is being hidden, covered up, however you choose to phrase it, but what and why is what people are so desperately seeking.

reply to post by nighthawk1954


I deeply respect that and I feel for everybody involved in this tragedy in any way whatsoever. I think there is only a very small amount of people who claim that the entire tragedy was fabricated and never happened, and I think most - if not all - of those people don't REALLY believe that, they just WANT to believe it. I am, unfortunately, certain that a tragedy DID happen and innocent children and adults DID die at Sandy Hook. However, the fact still remains that there is a plethora of details around this incident that do not add up, and it is very, very interesting to a lot of people, myself included, why they don't add up and what exactly happened at Sandy Hook, and why. Again, my condolences to everybody involved (except the guilty parties I suppose), and I think it is very much in their interest for the whole truth to come out about this.

Thanks a lot to the user who posted the updated full report, I will look into it.

reply to post by Libertygal


I went to a new doctor recently and one of the first questions on the paperwork I was required to fill out, asked if I owned any guns. the next question was if I have depression/anxiety issues.., then the doctor wanted me to fill out a self survey of how I feel about everything and it had many question about my mental state, this was being done as a profile of my current mental state, and I never even went to the doctor for any mental issue in the first place.. They are trying to cause everyone who even visits the doctor to be rendered ineligible to own firearms it surly looks like.

Before Sandy Hook, these things had not yet been implemented as far as I can remember.. Indoctrination is in full force and even intelligent professional people are being deceived and compromised..