Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology

reply to post by The GUT


Gut- During your foofighter sighting in the mountains...did you have any sense of a telepathic experience with the otherworlder's?

During my own foofighter sighting in 76...I seemed to perceive a telepathic experience with the supreme being that was operating the starship. I sensed a highly intelligent presence...when the starship possibly made an instant stop above our head's in the clouded sky above us. This occurred seconds after my bluish-white hi power foofighter sighting --- and about one minute before the fiery red-orange plasma foofighter sighting in it's landing phase.

I tend to assume that the otherworlder's mapped my brainwaves with my first attempts at space alien communication contact at Calvert Cliffs, Maryland during my possible [summer of 1972] first non-visual ET biological entity contact --- with the otherworlder's ability too seek me out --- with my November 1976 P.M. sighting.

I also seem to sense at the present moment...that I can still achieve possible telepathic contact with the same otherworlders --- buy just asking a question, say... about starship technology [with no voice contact occurring] ---- but just a sense about how starship's tick; unless it's just some hairbrained idea that popps into my head. I cannot confirm...so what the heck!!!

Cheers,

Erno

FireMoon
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

Ah yes, now we're cooking with gas. The original archetypes were those where people understood that the "elements" both gave life and took life so were about balance and a respect for and an understanding of that. You are absolutely right that those self same archetypes can be subverted and bent into any shape you choose to and in the right conditions, can be just as powerful.

Well then, maybe Jung's point was that the Wotan archetype 'behind' the Nazis was the "subverted and bent" version? And maybe it was "the right conditions" which informed Hitler's rise to power as an embodiment of the 'shadow' side of that archetype...

meaningless333
Look at the Vatican, dont you take your eyes from there.
If there are experts on the occult/aliens/alternative realities (etc), some of the best (and knowledgeable) are deffinetly there. With a plus, they are very low-profile and so accomplished that they dont need to brag about it (unlike so many others).

A LOT of mind reading going on here. Hope I get it finished tonight, but I'm working on post that talks about UFOs, the Vatican, Aleister Crowley, Kenneth Grant, Charles Fort--and more--and what they all have in common!

To EVERYONE: Wow, I'm really enjoying the discussion y'all have going on over the last two pages! If anyone has links to help me understand the various POVs a lil' better I'd enjoy reading your recommendations. Jung is an old pal of mine, but the relationship to the Reich and the gods through related archetype is an area I haven't really explored.

Speaking of the Nazis, I'll make a confession: I wonder if the foo-fighters might not only have been lifeforms, but an extension of the non-human intelligence bent on the human destruction that's being hypothesized in this thread?

We're definitely going into--for lack of a better word--'interdimensional' land here soon...hope y'all will play!

reply to post by The GUT


Did the foo fighters ever do any actual damage or were they just 'witnessed' by pilots?

reply to post by lostgirl

No damage as far as I can recall. Pretty sure on that. Which might relate to your observation as regards Greenfield thinking "they" fear something. It might also be that though they have great powers over minds and can create fantastical "visions"...maybe they lack enough "physicality" to totally dominate in that regard?

lostgirl

FireMoon
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

Ah yes, now we're cooking with gas. The original archetypes were those where people understood that the "elements" both gave life and took life so were about balance and a respect for and an understanding of that. You are absolutely right that those self same archetypes can be subverted and bent into any shape you choose to and in the right conditions, can be just as powerful.

Well then, maybe Jung's point was that the Wotan archetype 'behind' the Nazis was the "subverted and bent" version? And maybe it was "the right conditions" which informed Hitler's rise to power as an embodiment of the 'shadow' side of that archetype...

I'm just going to spitball a little bit here.

The foo-fighters and the Marian apparitions share a thing in common: a loud "buzzing" noise preceeding manifestation. The "buzz" is also a universal trigger for visceral fear. Perhaps the scream of Pan sounded like a thousand hives.

If there is an extra-human force (and I am personally not inclined to think so), then it sounds like an active transistor before it takes the form suggested by the subject's religious tropes.

Implying another EMF intersect.

Now back to the Thulies: they took the Theosophical playbook and ran with it. We know for a certainty that they took a little of Astarte, a little of Idun and a whole lot of contemporary anxiety over gender roles and made their own secret Goddess.

Is it possible that the OG occult propagandists intercepted the archetype and intentionally spun and amplified it? And that they may have done the same with the Saucers?

Speaking of interception, I just sent you a PM reply, GUT. Let me know if it fails to be delivered.

Eidolon23
If there is an extra-human force (and I am personally not inclined to think so), then it sounds like an active transistor before it takes the form suggested by our personal religious tropes.

Implying another EMF intersect.

I'm intrigued but confused...where do the plasma lifeforms you've discussed in the past fit into this if not "extra-human?" Maybe I misunderstand?

reply to post by The GUT


I would be more inclined to think the foo fighters were a phenomenon in themselves, something just put into my mind the idea of mischievous 'fairies' in that whatever 'animated' the foo fighters was not part of our theorized 'non-human intelligence', but were just some sort of minor 'entities' out there having (their idea of) fun....

reply to post by The GUT


My, er, impression is that most of the dwellers in Chaz's Super Sargasso sea are no more concerned with us than we would be with amoeba. I think, if it's not just the collective brain haunting itself, that the ID things interacting with humanity are human in origin-- hatchlings to our eggs.

Follow-up thought: the buzz is only documented in recent (post-1940) sightings. It may have gone unremarked by Herodotus and his ilk, but suggests a very mundane human origin. Fatima as a test-run.

Just sent you another PM. The other is still white in my outbox.

reply to post by lostgirl

Maybe they were those of the more 'playful' sort. Once the Nazi thing came up, and I was at the same time digging into the mystical connection to "UFOs," I came across the following. While I shared it with some folk privately, I didn't want to post it here, but since you bring up the playful aspect I'll go ahead.

It intrigues me, because it has so much in common with not only my own mind-blowing sighting, but possibly Erno's as well.

Through another character, a French collaborator named Belisse ('from Belisane, sun god of the Gauls'), Landig describes in elaborate detail the nature of this phenomenon, which he calls 'Manisolas'. They are living, intelligent bio-mechanical entities with a complex life cycle that begins as a circle of light and continues through a metallic form before reaching the reproductive stage. Through a regenerative process, a new Manisola grows within the womb of the adult.

The regenerated part is expelled by the remaining mother-nucleus as a new energetic circle of light, corresponding to a birthing technique. This new circle enters on the same seven developmental stages, while the expelling maternal element rolls itself into a ball, which then explodes. The metallic remains contain particles of copper. The optical impressions that eyewitnesses of these Manisolas have had up to now are basically quite uniform.

In the daytime they display an extremely bright gold or silver luminescence, sometimes with traces of rose-colored smoke which then often condense into grayish-white trails. At night the disks shine in glowing or glossy colors, showing on occasion long flames at the edges and red and blue sparks, which can grow so strong as to wreathe them in fire. Most remarkable is their power of reaction against pursuers, like that of a rational creature, far exceeding any possible electronic self-steering or radio control.

Landig goes on to describe how, throughout the ages, all mythologies refer in one way or another to the Manisolas, which are seen as symbols of spiritual potency, unity and love.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

reply to post by The GUT


Do you have the link for the article about "manisolas", I've never heard anything about them - would like to read more..

Is your experience posted somewhere?

Eidolon23
My, er, impression is that most of the dwellers in Chaz's Super Sargasso sea are no more concerned with us than we would be with amoeba. I think, if it's not just the collective brain haunting itself, that the ID things interacting with humanity are human in origin-- hatchlings to our eggs.

If "they" are just aspects of ourselves then, yeah, the point is moot.

But as far as the Sargasso goes, then we have to consider that creativity and curiosity are aspects of consciousness in our experience. Defining aspects even. And what about your expressed thoughts on the "etheric?"

Plus, if plasma, which in itself is dependent on EM, does hold lifeforms, then such intelligences might have a BIG stake in what we do to our "pale blue dot," eh?

Which brings to mind that nuclear detonation in the atmosphere is THE premier EMP weapon.

reply to post by The GUT


Good points. I can't reach any conclusions in an info vacuum, and absent direct gnosis, I can only spitball. I just hesitate to remove agency from the species given how prone we are to digging our own holes.

If we are a foundational part of an extended food chain, or even the frontal cortex of the planet, any extra dimensional predator who targets our species is gunning for the small blue dot itself.

And all things that flourish in its dark plasma corona.

It doesn't strike me as correct, but that's just me. We look for the Tiger in the dark, and it always turns out to be us.

reply to post by lostgirl


Now this is where things really become a little strange and we're right back to the CIA. The Bob White incident led him to discovering papers that claim an Allied fighter was shot down over Denmark during WW2 and that his artifact is identical to one the supposedly found in the wreckage of the British aircraft attacked by a Foo Fighter. I did several days work searching through the Danish WW2 records and those of the Luftwaffe and could find no record in either, of the Allied plane that was supposedly downed by the Foo Fighter. That begs the question, quite why would the CIA fake a report of a British fighter being downed by a FOO fighter and how come the drawing of the object supposedly found in the wreckage of said British fighter, was identical to the object Bob White found post his own UFO sighting.

The Bob White object

The GUT

Which brings to mind that nuclear detonation in the atmosphere is THE premier EMP weapon.

Oh. Oh.

Yeah.

Regardless of origin, a plasma-based organism would definitely do what it could do dissuade us from using tech that could potentially crash the entire extra-planetary ecosystem.

Eidolon23
We look for the Tiger in the dark, and it always turns out to be us.

Oh, no doubt we are complicit, but are we alone?

The discussion of the archetypes may on its face seem alien (no pun intended) to the discussion of aliens.

BUT this may be one way to get an understanding of them.

On the surface they are not anything overtly negative (though the abduction phenomena many consider out of line) though it is of course underneath the surface that people think may be a problem: are they wolves in sheep’s clothing? Or sheep in wolves clothing?

They seem like very humble decent beings and I haven’t heard of any time they have exhibited any negative archetypal behavior like a Nazi or religious fundamentalist.

So on the surface they exhibit a positive archetypal personality though somewhat of a neutral nature.

BUT I personally believe these “greys” are likely some form of robot or drone.
Perhaps they are a new archetype that goes along with the cybernetic times of nanotechnology.

Indeed, we may have the Robot archetype before us.

Is that our future?

Finally, this begs the question...sort of like the Wizard of OZ

Who is behind the alien curtain?

FireMoon
That begs the question, quite why would the CIA fake a report of a British fighter being downed by a FOO fighter and how come the drawing of the object supposedly found in the wreckage of said British fighter, was identical to the object Bob White found post his own UFO sighting.

The Bob White object

CIA knows that the distinctive slag is a by-product of a counter-centrifugal rotating mercury-plasma-based anti-gravity engine that will turn up from time to time and thusly needs a cover story? How'd I do?

Unknown Slag - Bob White UFO Artifact

lostgirl
Do you have the link for the article about "manisolas", I've never heard anything about them - would like to read more..

Is your experience posted somewhere?

Link to the "Manisolas" quote:

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

My sighting:

I was 14 and on a 5-day camp-out with about 20 other Boy Scouts in the foothills of Lookout Mtn in Alabama 20+ years ago. 4 of the 5 days were spent in a relatively safe & easygoing pasture of a scout-friendly citizen. We had some badge classes and spent a lot of our leisure time in fierce competitions of mumblety-peg.

But one night we went to camp in the "mountains," better described as large foothills. After dinner we broke off in pairs and cliques and explored the various trails leading to the top which I estimate to be around 600 ft and situated among many foothills of similar size.

Two scouts had remained at the top longer than the rest of us and it was rather late in the evening when I and a friend were meandering a trail and talking near the top, when the two scouts up top called down to us in very excited voices to come up that they had just seen a ufo. We scrambled up to the top and the two scouts indicated an adjacent and taller mount and said they saw a big glowing orange ufo land there.

I was skeptical, but was intrigued by how excited they were, cutting each other off in their zealousness to describe what they saw. We settled in and continued talking all the while steadily looking at the adjacent mount top.

Maybe 20 minutes passed when there appeared a brilliant double-flash that emanated from and illuminated the top of the peak, a second of darkness, and then maybe 100 ft over the tree tops "it" pulsed into life. Perspective wise, I would say it was about high-moon size in appearance.

At full pulse it looked like liquid metal or 'plasma' swirling around inside. Then it would dim at about the same speed it lit. It would dim to nothing. We couldn't see anything and then a good bit higher in the sky it would pulse to light again a few seconds later. Not counting the double-flash of the apparent lift-off it lit and dimmed 6 times, each time higher in the sky and after the 6th nothing. We watched for a long time, but that amazing glimpse was over but for the heavy-duty questions it raised in me.

It was a clear night and a clear phenomena of some kind. I was an Air Force brat that never missed a Blue Angels show or an opportunity to witness various test-flights. I knew it wasn't flares and it doesn't fit with any description of ball lightning that I've come across. Conventional craft was out of the question because of characteristics and size.

Even at that age, I knew what we saw couldn't be easily explained. Since the internet came along, I've searched for folk who have seen the same thing and have now found quite a few.

When I read Vallee and Aubeck's recent Wonders in the Sky, I was quite amazed and excited to find MANY almost exact descriptions of the same phenomenon from the very beginnings of recorded history. Are they craft? Are they "earthlights?" Are they alive? I dunno...I know they are AMAZING.

Erno86
Gut- During your foofighter sighting in the mountains...did you have any sense of a telepathic experience with the otherworlder's?

Nope, no telepathy or any high-strangeness aspects that I can recall. The only thing kind of weird I remember is that one of the guys that initially spotted it was rather stunned--maybe even trance-like--for the rest of the evening. I just took it as his mind was blown and he was maybe scared, but I have wondered about that aspect since then.