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Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology

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posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 05:39 AM
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Hi Sir GUT
Can you please summarise what you are trying to say here in less than 30 words.



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 06:22 AM
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corsair00

With all that said, Project: Rainbow began as just a way to use electro-magnetic gaussing coils to fool enemy radar, basically creating a huge blur on a radar screen instead of giving the position of a ship or airplane away using electrical static.


Bit of an issue with the above book excerpt in that radar isn't detecting object position using electrical static. In fact the way the whole section is written means that I would personally discount it entirely.

The British regularly degaussed ships in WWII in order that they wouldn't set off magnetic mines (which, contrary to popular belief, were generally tethered in place and simply triggered to explode when detecting a large magnetic presence, as opposed to being magnetically attracted to an object and exploding on contact).

Initially ships had a permanent degaussing system installed but it was found that the same effect could be achieved less expensively by periodic wiping.

I suppose there could have been some research in that period to see how various EM fields affected radar and I can understand how they may alter the return signature but not to cause a huge blur - that is radar jamming which is a different process.
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posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 08:58 AM
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It’s a no brainer to me… that the alien UFO phenomena are related, primarily, though not only, to the nuclear weapons issue.

The “not only”, I can’t divulge at this time. I’ll only say that it is a little deeper…in fact much deeper.

Anyway, you mentioned—in apparent counter to my earlier post—where I suggested that the alien UFO phenomena coming after the creation of the atomic bomb in 45 suggest an interest of the aliens in the atomic weapons issue.

You reminded that UFOS haven been coming here since way back.
To that I say—granted—that is the case, but there has never been a time in history that humans have been as aware universally or the incidents of UFOs so widespread and that there being a mass awareness or possibility of them as today’s times.

I don’t recall ever reading a period piece where the issue was as it is today.

That is the difference.

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posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 10:11 AM
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I just learned what W56 means.
According to Timothy Good, it means Washington56, indicating the year and that the Alien beings in this video first contacted Washington.

Interesting page, that FL
Thanks



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 10:25 AM
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Willtell
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I just learned what W56 means.
According to Timothy Good, it means Washington56, indicating the year and that the Alien beings in this video first contacted Washington.

Interesting page, that FL
Thanks


That's the first I heard of W56 other than a Nuke. I'll have to look into that more.

We may disagree politically at times, but I like the way you think about other subjects.



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 11:18 AM
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RE: W56
I finally watched the video that Gut posted, but it was late and I was pooped, so I may have missed some info -

- Did it say in there that the aliens had visited Washington before going to Italy?



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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The search for truth is apolitical



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 11:23 AM
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I don't know. If you did I didn't read it.

I got this from Listening to Tim Good, to me a very reliable source.
www.redicecreations.com...
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posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 12:12 PM
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According to this source:

nuclearweaponarchive.org...

W56 would be a Minuteman ICBM warhead produced between 1963 to 1969.



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 12:42 PM
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BullwinkleKicksButt
Hi Sir GUT
Can you please summarise what you are trying to say here in less than 30 words.

Are there powerful people in our military structure that have weaponized aspects of alien technology and have willingly joined a militaristic non-human intelligence that desires dominance and/or our downfall?



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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chunder
I suppose there could have been some research in that period to see how various EM fields affected radar and I can understand how they may alter the return signature but not to cause a huge blur - that is radar jamming which is a different process.

Are you aware of any technology from that period that could have caused field effects along the lines of Persinger's "God Helmet" but on a larger scale? Could we have accidentally brain-fried a bunch of crewmen in the course of rather ordinary experimental aims?



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 12:54 PM
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Some coincidence, these beings have the same name as this device.
digitalseance.wordpress.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

Probably a coincidence?
I guess or I hope.



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 01:01 PM
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Could it be that this intelligence is a part of the whole group?

The “negative” part of this alien group either within the whole alien tribe OR
THEY ARE A SEPARATE GROUP WHO ARE NOT A PART OF THE GOOD GUYS?

Yin Yang in space

That’s the question.

If they are assisting human military endeavors then it may be that they are jinning up this arms race so we can destroy each other?

That seems to be the overall question.



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 01:13 PM
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Greetings



Some coincidence, these beings have the same name as this device.
digitalseance.wordpress.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

Probably a coincidence?
I guess or I hope.


Well, lets think a bit on the data we have.

W56 as an ICBM warhead was capable of sustaining high altitude/high speed flights (even orbital?), high G´s and thermal charges.

Let us remember that in the 1960s the USAF/NASA were heavily testing lifting bodies (X-20 Dyna-Soar, M2 or HL-10) and studying the possibility of installing nukes on orbit (onboard a nuclear propulsion orbital vehicle). That could have been a modified warhead fired from some sort of railway gun?

For a glimpse on lifting bodies:

www.astronautix.com...



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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Willtell
You reminded that UFOS haven been coming here since way back.
To that I say—granted—that is the case, but there has never been a time in history that humans have been as aware universally or the incidents of UFOs so widespread and that there being a mass awareness or possibility of them as today’s times.

I don’t recall ever reading a period piece where the issue was as it is today.

That is the difference.

The advent of mass communications would certainly have to be taken into consideration wouldn't it? There are also examples where mythologies have been introduced into public awareness by that same mass communication. Are we being set up to embrace the wrong side?

And while not as widespread--true--we have similar reports of contact from the very beginning of recorded history. I'm just saying we have to take those factors into account, too.

As far as the 'Friendship Case'---did it hit anybody else that it shared many aspects that were indistinguishable from both the classic contacees and classic Magonia-style reports?

Some here might enjoy the following vid as much as I did. It's another UFOTV offering that looks at an "afterlife" investigation called The Scole Experiment---which many of you might be familiar with. I present it here because there are some similarities with the Friendship Case.

Here's a video still from the experiment that reportedly showed up anomalously:



willtell: If the hypothesis presented in this thread is true, then, yeah, I don't think they're ALL necessarily bad guys. Like you basically said: Cosmic Yin-Yan so to speak.


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posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 01:40 PM
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For those that watched the "Friendship Case" flick---I noticed that the UFO films they made looked a lot like some of George Adamski's lesser-known UFO film footage. I don't know what to make of that, exactly, but offer it as more food for thought. The similarities are remarkable.



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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The GUT
I found it fascinating because of the various possibilities of what it could have been and some really freaky details. Lots of pics , some film footage, and even some alleged recordings from the aliens themselves.


It caused a great media sensation. Mass UFO sightings. Humans working together with extraterrestrials in secret. Hundreds of people were involved. The public wanted to know what was happening but no one could penetrate the mystery.

Now after 50 years of silence, insider witnesses have decided to speak. A UFO contact case that has been kept secret for decades is now revealed. Countless pieces of evidence remain. Only now can the truth be known. This is the unbelievable true story about The Friendship Case.


The "Friendship UFO Case" also reminds me of--and has many parallels with--the Ummo UFO case.


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Hmmm...

Too much BS apparently, at least the first 10 mins in. I doubt it gets better...
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posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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Which vid are you specifically referencing? The same could. of course, be said for all of them I agree. It's the source of any BS that I'm most interested in. Also, imo, BS doesn't necessarily negate "anomalous." They often seem to go hand in hand.

Any elaboration you have on your opinions is encouraged both here on this thread and ATS in general. I look forward to our discussion!



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 03:54 PM
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There are 3 possibilities.
There all bad, unlikely, or all good, unlikely, or in-between, which is the most likely scenarios

Of course good and bad is relative and perspectival.

Are we good or bad to cows and roaches?

The unity principle, a metaphysical postulate, says everything is connected and related. In that scenario the UFO alien phenomena is good in relationship to the unity—God, since God ultimately has power over all things notwithstanding nuances he put in nature that he obviously enjoys.

Even God has to have some fun.

Anyway, regarding these weapons it may be that to the aliens this is Child's play and are merely, besides the violence behind them—toys to them.

Is the life after death video related to this? Are the aliens what we become after death?

Some of them look kind of dead.



posted on Oct, 20 2013 @ 04:17 PM
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Thoughtful post, Willtell. Nice.

The reason I shared the Scole Experiment video was mainly because:

1.) The "alien" messages picked up on radio in the Friendship vid were reminiscent of the "disembodied" voices received by radio in the Scole vid.

2.) The "apports"--that is small objects seemingly appearing from nowhere--were features of both vids.

3.) The reports in the Friendship Case of being taken underground and the ground closing up behind them has many parallels in Magonia and fairy lore.



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