Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology

Willtell

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GUT, I think you would get a lot out of this book that Willtell linked...

Some of it is reminiscent of Jacque Vallee type 'territory'...The book can get a bit over the top, but it's a quick read and easy to skim....

Most especially though - go to the end and read Appendix 2. It has a very interesting 'take' on the alien's motivation for wanting to destroy us..

The GUT
Yeah, I agree, brother FireMoon, that they are "nutters" as you state. And, yeah, I also agree that such folk are doomed to failure.

They are smart enough to peruse history to keep from "repeating the same mistakes" but they have failed to identify, imo, the correct mistake. They might look, say, for the ways a Hitler went wrong strategically while failing to grasp that the whole concept of domination is fundamentally wrong and will therefore eventually fail.

That's not to say that the world isn't in for a universe of hurt for a season or two, however, because I believe it is.

[bold]The best way to understand this mindset is to really peruse the available official documentation and think-tank forecasts. The globalist mindset also believes that technology HAS increased enough to bring their goals within reach.[/bold]

Dr. Alexander and the Morris' have made multiple references to the term, "New World Order" in their publications. It is unclear whether they are aware of what this New World Order will be: the history of some of the organizations which they have served, or their true objectives.

USA Today ran an article entitled, Top Military Advisor Signs on for Video Games, on July 3, 2003, which stated that Dr. Alexander has "inked a contract... with Platinum Studios." "We're talking about everything from electromagnetic pulse weapons that could cripple a country by wiping out all its electronics, to controlling insects with pheromones to make whole cities uninhabitable"

...It continued, quoting Dr. Alexander who stated, "This stuff is real... the genetic and biological capabilities that exist right now, the cutting-edge weapons, technologies and threats - these are real scenarios that we could literally face today, and it's mind-blowing."


In an article entitled, Mind Games, by The Washington Post on January 14, 2007, Dr. Alexander stated, "Maybe I can fix you, or electronically neuter you, so it's safe to release you into society... It's only a matter of time before technology allows that scenario to come true..." The program is already here and it is nothing less than an electronic concentration camp.

Dr. Alexander authored an article called, New Weapons for a New World Order, which appeared in the March 7, 1993 issue of The Boston Globe. He wrote "[The] United States must be able to protect national interests and values, even in ambiguous circumstances."

And that more options will be required in the future to deal with "threats to national security." Remember, the Morris' and Dr. Alexander have suggested the domestic use for these weapons. What this means in plain English is that opponents of big corporations, or anyone against any element of the New World Order are the enemies.

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It's that "domestic use" mindset that catches my attention. Let's look at how that mindset is promulgated within the circles of the military and government:

“New World Vistas” was a major undertaking by the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, to examine future developments in weapons.  Published in 1996, it totalled 14 volumes of studies.  The fifteenth “ancillary” volume contained some hair-raising insights into the future “coupling” of man and machine.

Tucked away on page 89 is a section dealing with “Biological Process Control.”  The author speaks of an “explosion” of knowledge in the field of neuroscience.

He then proceeds to his main point “One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set.” 

Translating the words “experience set” from military jargon into plain English, this simply means your entire life’s “memories” can be erased and a new, fictitious memory implanted.
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"New World Vistas." Kind of brings to mind New World Order doesn't it?

In another US Military publication, a similar futuristic scenario was adopted.  Published by the US Army War College in 1994, “The Revolution in Military Affairs and Conflict Short of War” contains many references to mind manipulation.

Authors Steven Metz and James Kievit observe ,for example “Behaviour modification is a key component of peace enforcement.” [ii]  They go on to note that “The advantage of [using] directed energy systems is deniability.”[iii]  Savvy individuals the authors then ask “Against whom is such deniability aimed?”[iv]  The answer simply is “deniability must be aimed at the American people.”[v]  So much for “open government” in the brave new world’s brave new age.

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Wow. That's pretty heavy. They don't seem to think much of us. It's a recurring theme. The article continues:

[T]he writers proceed to layout a futuristic scenario set in the year 2010, that utilises “perception moulding” and “advanced psychotechnologies” to avoid irksome public protest. 
But that is just the beginning.  The major problem they believe is that “traditional American ethics [are] a major hindrance…”  and thus, sadly “old-fashioned notions of personal privacy and national sovereignty [are to be] changed.” [vi]

They were SPOT on and seem to be on schedule with what is now proven ala the NSA, eh? HEY, they said it on paper, not me. And there's SO much more.

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This entire post is one of the reasons that I think there is an 'outside force' controlling the people in control...

I mean, in line with what you said in there, 'the globalists have had the technology to at least start bringing their goals in reach'...so why aren't we seeing any signs that they're using the technology?

You know, you can follow the line (starting in the 40's!) of all the tech being created and refined, but now nothing seems to be happening with any of it, like NWO 'people' are in a holding pattern or something...

To me it looks very much like 'someone' isn't allowing the globalist agenda to move forward now...I mean if you look at world events for the past several years, it's like things were barreling along, and then all of a sudden 2013 seems like a series of false starts or stalemates even...

I don't know if I'm expressing this well..

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I think dire emergencies and the sense of helplessness create a prayer-like distress call that can ultimately be answered by a higher power. As the global crisis deepens, there may be a "divine intervention" and/or wake up call that might follow on the tail of a more sinister or destructive scenario. It has already been proven that UFOs have shut down our atomic weapons in both America and Russia. So I do believe a higher force is monitoring such activity.

But I think the spiritual evolution and devolution of individuals is happening at a more subtle level that is not immediately obvious to most people. I think time repeats in astrological cycles, and an individual is forced to repeat their own history over and over again until they learn the appropriate and necessary lessons and evolve. Windows of opportunity present themselves at various stages and allow for the possibility of taking things to a higher level. If one is intuitive and aware and ready, they can advance their lives and become more in a position to offer positive changes to the world. It doesn't even need to be materialistic in nature, as many Tibetan monks, for example, spend their days praying for humanity in a hut on a mountaintop.

Unfortunately, many people are disengaged from this more profound level of reality and are operating more at the 9 to 5 level of society. Sedentary preoccupations with what is happening on the myriad shows on television and the mundane jobs in industrial mills that help destroy the planet is where most psychic energy is placed. You participate in and help influence wherever you focus your psychic energy. Most of us here on ATS reject the 9 to 5 world of society and are more interested in creating a new world.

There are many people in this society that have been royally screwed over by psychiatric illnesses and bad medications/side effects, for example, and their advancement is severely hindered and they can only work with what they have left. In some situations, people reach an evolutionary cul-de-sac in terms of spiritual progression, and the force of their own entropy might eventually do them in. I see a particularly strong decline in many people in the baby boomer generation at the moment. Horribly unhealthy and sedentary lifestyles. I would say that at the levels of the powerful and greedy societal institutions, such as pharmaceutical corporations, there is a type of parasitism that does actually seem to be culling the population. Whether that is more of a Frankenstein-out-of-control scenario or a deliberate population reduction, I really am not sure...

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83, don't hold back on us, I know you have some great EM stuff--especially as relates to altered states and entities--to bring to the table. I'm very pleased you stopped by and thank you for the kind words.

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I'm glad you believe in the possibility of "divine intervention", it's nice to know I'm not the only person in the world who believes in miracles

But I have to ask, if people are forced to live their 'lives' over and over until they advance or whatever....isn't that a bit unfair? I mean, a system like that would require that everyone truly have free will, but what about insane people? I mean the kind who do really sick, horrific, 'torture for fun' type things. They don't (truly) choose to be that way.
How can an astrological cycle type of existence, like you describe be fair to people who don't have the freedom of will to choose the changes of life style needed to advance to higher degrees of living'?

lostgirl
GUT, I think you would get a lot out of this book that Willtell linked...

yah, thanks Willtell! And thank you, lostgirl, for the nudge. I've read Greenfields Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts and some of his other pieces.

He's a really good writer with a wealth of esoteric knowledge and experience. I especially appreciate that he doesn't talk in ciphers like many occult writers do, and thusly demystifies some of the confusion that sometimes abounds in that field.

I find many of his ideas intriguing, too, and share his interest and many of his observations about the early contactees and the UFO phenomenon in general.

I'm reading the link now, but thought I'd pop back in to give it a thumbs up. Can't agree with all of his conclusions, but he's definitely worth reading and I always learn something.

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Thanks for providing the excerpt but again reads like a poor sci fi novel in terms of the physics involved.

It states that alternating current introduced at a frequency of 7.8hz - then that power was increased before reaching a frequency threshold - whereas increasing the power won't affect the frequency of the ac at all so no threshold could have been reached.

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Recently in my area, there was a front-page newspaper report which described the brutal treatment of a mentally ill man who was thrown out of a hospital without notifying his family, leaving him completely stranded. In fact, such stories are so common-place that the Chiefs of Police in Canada held a press conference to demand that government deal with the mental health system better, since the police are often the first responders to psychotic breakouts from the mentally ill, who are often suffering from adverse reactions to drugs they never chose to be on in the first place.

I don't think any of that is fair whatsoever, and I am personally experienced in some of that myself. However, it does reflect this deeper spiritual reality. Mental illness as seen through the eyes of transpersonal psychologists like Stanislav Grof or Dr. John Perry is actually a spiritual emergency/emergence. A visionary process that is supposed to be left unhindered and allowed to go through positive transformation, in our society of modern science and medicine, is seen as various forms of psychosis and schizophrenia and is delayed or aborted by the intervention of bad drugs. The terrible treatment of these people is only one more example of how the spiritual emergency/emergence of our own global civilization is reaching a climax.

In the newspaper article I mentioned, a quiet and prominent businessman and brother to the man who was mistreated by the hospital, made a clarion call to all family members and people negatively impacted by the mental health system to email him with their own stories. He basically said "I am mad as hell and I am not gonna take it anymore!" - which is part of the moment we have all been waiting for. Unfortunate that it should be so painful to some of us, but such is the nature of emergency. His intentions are to go to the government, who are already aware of the Chiefs of Police complaining about the issue, not to mention those in the mental health system itself, and they will be forced to confront and deal with this issue head on. I had my own personal advice and information to add and will be making an impact on that front myself.

That said, once the alternative approaches to all the wide varieties of issues we are aware of and research are actually implemented into the mainstream, relief and solutions will be available - even to those who have been stuck in an evolutionary cul-de-sac.

Trials of the Visionary Mind: Spiritual Emergency and the Renewal Process

Stress may cause highly activated mythic images to erupt from the psyche's deepest levels in the form of turbulent visionary experience. Depending on whether the interactions between the individual and the immediate surroundings lean toward affirmation or invalidation, comprehension of these visions can turn the visionary experience into a step in growth or into a disorder, as an acute psychosis. Based on his clinical and scholarly investigations, John Weir Perry has found and formulated a mental syndrome which, though customarily regarded as acute psychosis, is in actuality a more natural effort of the psyche to mend its imbalances. If the upset is received in the spirit of empathy and understanding, and allowed to run its course, an acute episode can be found to reveal a self-organizing process that has self-healing potential.

This book examines what the acute "psychotic" experience stirs up in the psyche and how to empathetically respond. Understanding the function of mythic themes is reached through the author's investigation into myth and ritual of antiquity and also the visionary experience undergone by prophets and social reformers in various ages and parts of the world.

The GUT

chunder
I suppose there could have been some research in that period to see how various EM fields affected radar and I can understand how they may alter the return signature but not to cause a huge blur - that is radar jamming which is a different process.

Are you aware of any technology from that period that could have caused field effects along the lines of Persinger's "God Helmet" but on a larger scale? Could we have accidentally brain-fried a bunch of crewmen in the course of rather ordinary experimental aims?

I am not aware of any specific technology (but am certainly no expert) but EM fields are easy to produce and most people are in the presence of some kind of a field most of the time - even if just naturally occurring.

There is some evidence to suggest that prolonged exposure to fields (mainly associated with HV distribution systems - and latterly speculation over wi-fi networks and mobile phones) can cause forms of cancer but, as in the God Helmet, it seems to be in the specific manipulation of much lower strength fields where "experiences" occur.

Could a particular experiment have created hallucinatory effects and other stimuli that was then exaggerated into the Philadelphia experiment then whilst extremely unlikely it's possible - EM brain effects.

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The renowned psychologist and psychoanalyst, Carl Gustav Jung, started noticing a dark and ominous theme emerging in the dreams of his patients in the 1930s. He was able to trace it back to a mythical Aryan archetype called Wotan and was able to discern that it was an emerging force in the collective unconscious and would most likely receive full expression in Germany in the near future.

There's a huge contradiction at the heart of this idea. in actual fact, the largest number of recruits to the SS were ultra right wing Catholics from the Southern German states, the likes of Croatia, the Bosnian Muslims etc. They were anything save remotely "pagan" in their outlook on life. in fact, the majority of the SS were orthodox Christians on a crusade against the "godless communists". The actual pagan cadre within the SS was always tiny and coalesced almost wholly around Himmler himself. I'm, not sure how Jung predicted much in the 1930s given that, the Nazis were in power by 1933. it' makes a nice tale for those who champion Jung's view of life however, it's a bit like predicting it's going to rain when the sky is laden with leaden clouds and there's a breeze.

The truth of what I'm saying here can be seen with the ungodly sic rush by the Catholic church, to hide and aid the escape of thousands of ex SS officers post World War 2. There is nothing in the "Wotan archetype" to support any sort of idea of "Aryan Supremacy" at all, Wotan, Odin. Woden if you actually read the legends was about truth justice and honour end of, nothing to do with any specific tribe or group. Jung's analysis is based on a flawed archetype, wholly based on the later Christian propaganda about pagan deities.

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@UFO SECRET - The Friendship Case - 2013
video


Did you hear the voice on 26:40 ? the alien voice... lol...

So the aliens sound like the Pope.

ProphetZoroaster
@UFO SECRET - The Friendship Case - 2013
video
Did you hear the voice on 26:40 ? the alien voice... lol...

So the aliens sound like the Pope.

Now that you mention it, it did kind of sound like an address from a Pope ha! Which brings something to mind. Got it started---I'll finish it after I run some errands and post it later.

FireMoon
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There's a huge contradiction at the heart of this idea. in actual fact, the largest number of recruits to the SS were ultra right wing Catholics from the Southern German states, the likes of Croatia, the Bosnian Muslims etc. They were anything save remotely "pagan" in their outlook on life. in fact, the majority of the SS were orthodox Christians on a crusade against the "godless communists". The actual pagan cadre within the SS was always tiny and coalesced almost wholly around Himmler himself. I'm, not sure how Jung predicted much in the 1930s given that, the Nazis were in power by 1933. it' makes a nice tale for those who champion Jung's view of life however, it's a bit like predicting it's going to rain when the sky is laden with leaden clouds and there's a breeze.

The truth of what I'm saying here can be seen with the ungodly sic rush by the Catholic church, to hide and aid the escape of thousands of ex SS officers post World War 2. There is nothing in the "Wotan archetype" to support any sort of idea of "Aryan Supremacy" at all, Wotan, Odin. Woden if you actually read the legends was about truth justice and honour end of, nothing to do with any specific tribe or group. Jung's analysis is based on a flawed archetype, wholly based on the later Christian propaganda about pagan deities.

Jung was not saying that the Nazis had taken up paganism. He was talking about the source of their inner motivations, that they were 'operating' on a subconscious mindset fueled by the 'ideals' of a specific ancient Aryan archetype which had been taking root in the collective unconscious for millennia and was being 'brought to life' in the national psyche by Hitler's obsession with re-propagating the Nordic Aryan 'race'.

Archetypes don't have anything to do with a society's religious affiliation...The history of the Catholic church is littered with so-called devout 'Christians' whose activities (The inquisition for one) were in no way motivated by the "Christ" archetype...

norse mythology

Also, according to "Norse Mythology.org", Jung's take on Wotan/Odin was on target:

"In modern pop culture, Odin is often portrayed as an eminently honorable ruler and battlefield commander, but to the ancient norse aryans, he was nothing of the sort.

In fact, in contrast to more straight forwardly noble war gods such as TYR or Thor, Odin incites otherwise peaceful people to strife with what to modern tastes, is down right sinister glee.

Greetings

There's a huge contradiction at the heart of this idea. in actual fact, the largest number of recruits to the SS were ultra right wing Catholics from the Southern German states, the likes of Croatia, the Bosnian Muslims etc. They were anything save remotely "pagan" in their outlook on life. in fact, the majority of the SS were orthodox Christians on a crusade against the "godless communists". The actual pagan cadre within the SS was always tiny and coalesced almost wholly around Himmler himself. I'm, not sure how Jung predicted much in the 1930s given that, the Nazis were in power by 1933. it' makes a nice tale for those who champion Jung's view of life however, it's a bit like predicting it's going to rain when the sky is laden with leaden clouds and there's a breeze.

I subscribe Firemoon´s perspective.
After Hitler´s Munich Putsch (1923) and with the SA troops storming around it was obvious to many on that time that the Nazis were the better organized political (and para-military) force in Germany.
Also, their ideas were much in hand with the german military (the old prussian school) and with the german industrial groups (Krupps, IG-Farben, Bayer, etc).

Hitler also knew how to capitalize sympathies among german middle-class and workers. They took the heavy toll of the war: all sort of sacrifices during WWI, sky-rocketing inflation during the 1920s and 1930s, tremendous levels of unemployment. They were eager for Hitler.

So, to an educated observer like Jung, in the late 1920s or early 1930s, it would be pretty obvious that the Nazis would get into power.

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Sorry, I disagree, and I'm not talking about Odin as a battle field commander, as he never was. Odin was a Master politician who spent 9 days and 9 nights nailed to a tree and gave his right eye for wisdom. Wisdom is, like science, neutral and filtering it through 21 st century eyes means people tend to totally misjudge archetypes. I have had this conversation time and time again with people who are so deeply programmed that they cannot see past the christian propaganda they are imbued with from day one of their lives. Odin, Zeus, whoever's name you want to call them by were fallible, they were "gods" however, they were not this ridiculous idea of perfection adopted by the monotheistic religions. The actual point of the whole Odin archetype is they who are willing to go through self destruction in order to gain wisdom and be allowed to hold power and lead. That is the diametric opposite of the Nazis who were based on the teachings of a bloke who was convinced he was chosen and suffered from a terminal case of "Magical thinking" and "Amphetamine psychosis". The zeitgeist of Nazi Germany in the 1930s was one based on denial of the historical facts and the rantings of a madman, that has absolutely nothing to do with the "Odin Archetype".

I almost forgot that!

ProphetZoroaster
@UFO SECRET - The Friendship Case - 2013
video
Did you hear the voice on 26:40 ? the alien voice... lol...

So the aliens sound like the Pope.

Now that you mention it, it did kind of sound like an address from a Pope ha! Which brings something to mind. Got it started---I'll finish it after I run some errands and post it later.

The Gut, thats why I asked you if starting this thread on 13th October 2013, had any particular meaning!

Look at the Vatican, dont you take your eyes from there.
If there are experts on the occult/aliens/alternative realities (etc), some of the best (and knowledgeable) are deffinetly there. With a plus, they are very low-profile and so accomplished that they dont need to brag about it (unlike so many others).

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These archetypes we speak of are and have been defined by metaphysical science ages ago and they are constants.

The ancient biblical and Quranic texts call the warrior and source of war archetypes Gog and Magog

The Gog stands for active SOCIETAL OR TRIBAL materialism and Magog the warlike activities of the tribe or nation when it indulges in war like activities on another race, tribe, group of people, or even religion.

There are 3 other negative archetypes that make up the basic 5 that are at the root of all evil.

meaningless333
I almost forgot that!

ProphetZoroaster
@UFO SECRET - The Friendship Case - 2013
video
Did you hear the voice on 26:40 ? the alien voice... lol...

So the aliens sound like the Pope.

Now that you mention it, it did kind of sound like an address from a Pope ha! Which brings something to mind. Got it started---I'll finish it after I run some errands and post it later.

The Gut, thats why I asked you if starting this thread on 13th October 2013, had any particular meaning!

Look at the Vatican, dont you take your eyes from there.
If there are experts on the occult/aliens/alternative realities (etc), some of the best (and knowledgeable) are deffinetly there. With a plus, they are very low-profile and so accomplished that they dont need to brag about it (unlike so many others).

Yes, cos GUT's real name is Jaqcues de Molay and he types to us all from a temporal stasis field whilst keeping his tootsies toasty warm.

FireMoon
There is nothing in the "Wotan archetype" to support any sort of idea of "Aryan Supremacy" at all, Wotan, Odin. Woden if you actually read the legends was about truth justice and honour end of, nothing to do with any specific tribe or group. Jung's analysis is based on a flawed archetype, wholly based on the later Christian propaganda about pagan deities.

Although appearing to have a static, autonomous nature; is it possible that archetypes are as malleable as the human minds who serve as their cellular components? That they may become twisted out of true, distorted through layers of cultural frustration and institutional misrepresentation?

That after 500 years of repression and reworking, The One Eyed God (who, even at his prime, was a little more ambiguous than truth, justice, etc.) could become a poisonous engine of collective vengeance?

I ask, because I notice that modern day interpretations of ancient archetypes appear to be no less powerful for their deviations from their original attributes. In fact, for those who know what they're about, those deviations can be fine-tuned for effect, and the potency of the distorted archetype persists in the face of assertions of historical inaccuracy.

An archetype does not need to be "true" to be true.

P.S. As a corollary, they also do not appear to be tied to race or culture. Wotan never set foot amongst the Gauls, but try telling that to the pale guy sporting the Thor's Hammer pendant and the conviction that he's in touch with his ancestral roots.

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Ah yes, now we're cooking with gas. The original archetypes were those where people understood that the "elements" both gave life and took life so were about balance and a respect for and an understanding of that. You are absolutely right that those self same archetypes can be subverted and bent into any shape you choose to and in the right conditions, can be just as powerful.