Electromagnetism, UFOs, and the Weaponization of Alien Technology

reply to post by Baddogma


Great post - I agree, that the basic premise, that we are being manipulated by 'something' just fits. And I also agree that the majority who claim to know about the particulars are simply talking drivel, and in some pronounced cases, I am certain beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are being led in large part by the very (demonic) intelligences that they claim to be exposing - they just don't know it. I'm thinking Icke and the like.

This has been my favourite thread in the past twelve months on ATS. It gives us so many clues as to the nature of the bigger picture, and lends us a hand in collating the evidence of High Strangeness in High Places.

Well done to the Gut for a phenomenal thread dealing in the weirdness of the far out phenomenological..!!!

JayinAR
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection

 

I wonder how it would be perceived. A time slip?

There could be some telltale signatures on the other side.
I am currently working on the physics inside the wormhole,
but as yet am unable to extrapolate beyond the wormhole.

Bear with me here, por favor, because the theory that I'm going to suggest is kind of complex and resides on the very edge of my meager ability to explain it.

It was noted in the intro to this thread:

The scientists and various players we'll be discussing in this thread run the gamut of belief systems in regards the nature of these topics.

For example, when discussing electromagnetism we will find some who wholeheartedly believe that EM fields can facilitate close encounters with non-human intelligences, and then there are those at the other end of the spectrum who believe that EM fields can only facilitate hallucinatory or illusionary experiences that mimic anomalous contact with non-human intelligences. And some who fall somewhere between those two extremes.

It has also been noted that many of the ideas for EM weapons came as a result of the adverse physical and psychological effects of military servicemen exposed to the various EM fields they often come into contact with. Military installations have become melting pots of extensive and multitudinous EM fields since WW II.



I would also note before moving forward that hi-tech military installations have seen more than their fair share of UFO events.

Which brings me to two books that I highly recommend for anyone interested in the Electromagnetic aspects of phenomenology:

Ufos Psychic Close Encounters: The Electromagnetic Indictment

Electric Ufos: Fireballs, Electromagnetics and Abnormal States

In these works, the author--Albert Budden--draws from many areas of science both established and emerging, about the effects and symptoms of 'Electronic Smog.' He also dissects and offers intriguing glimpses into many fascinating case histories where it's either obvious, or the evidence is present, to infer and indict EM as a key component in these events.



Budden comes to the personal conclusion that what is actually happening is that folk that are especially sensitive--or allergic--to certain electromagnetic frequencies are affected by either various man-made EM fields or those of the naturally-occurring geomagnetic sort, and that the 'high-strangeness' effects occur in EM induced altered-states that then draw on our own subconscious conglomerate to create encounters that are really just aspects of our subconscious dilemmas and expectations.

I've noticed that his theories are recently being parroted (without credit) by various government institutions/scientists.

He's either fairly close to a cohesive theory or he's just describing the mechanics of how we actually do interact with a rather perplexing non-human intelligence.

It's my opinion--and Budden even seems to vacillate at times--that these events are more indicative of the 'mechanics' behind legitimate 'contact' and 'close encounters.'

Member lostgirl offered the thought that if these non-human intelligences are interacting with certain human factions and encouraging warfare, then maybe they were doing it below the 'radar' and with even more--and less obvious--ulterior motives.

Okay, here's my theory: Maybe all of these various EM technologies--whether on military installations or the civilian kind e.g. cell phones/towers, high-voltage lines/plants--are needed by these non-human intelligences to fully 'manifest' in this world? A worldwide EM network that will eventually allow them a more full entry into our physical world?

Maybe they are intelligent enough to kill two birds with one stone? Encourage destructive weapons & communications systems that also facilitate a conducive EM matrix they can bridge the gap with?


Related online reading:

Electronic smog

The curse of the mobile phone age: around your home there are countless gadgets whose electrical fields, scientists now warn, are linked to depression, miscarriage and cancer
www.independent.co.uk...

Directed-energy weapon

Gulf War Syndrome possible EM links:

High powered microwaves were used to disrupt Iraqi communications and though it is unknown whether this might have contributed to the syndrome, recent research suggests that safety limits for electromagnetic radiation are too lenient.
en.wikipedia.org...

Albert Budden and the Electro-Staging Hypothesis

This is in the area of Montauk Project stuff, which I kind of like, I dig Peter Moon, but it seems the visitors have long past and transcended the pedestrian electronics or EM, as is put, humans are dealing with IMO.

THESE ARE TOYS TO THESE BEINGS, IMO!

I might add though, often the toys are very dangerous to the unwary—US.

reply to post by The GUT


In my reply to Eidolon23 I referenced the anthology 'Shamans Through Time' and I thought that it might be quite fun to add this, from the same book, to the mix...

"Now I was virtually certain I was about to die. As I tried to accept my fate, an even lower portion of my brain began to transmit more visions and information. I was 'told' that this new material was being presented to me because I was dying and therefore 'safe' to receive these revelations. These were the secrets reserved for the dying and the dead, I was informed. I could only very dimly perceive the givers of these thoughts: giant reptilian creatures reposing sluggishly at the lowermost depths of my brain, where it met the top of the spinal column. I could only vaguely see them in what seemed to be the gloomy, dark depths.

Then they projected a visual scene in front of me. First they showed me the planet Earth as it was eons ago, before there was any life on it. I saw an ocean, barren land, and a bright blue sky. Then black specks dropped from the sky by the hundreds and landed in front of me on the barren landscape. I could see that the 'specks' were actually large, shiny, black creatures with stubby pterodactyl-like wings and huge whale-like bodies. Their heads were not visible to me. They flopped down, utterly exhausted from their trip, resting for eons. They explained to me the kind of thought language that they were fleeing from something out in space. They had come to the planet Earth to escape their enemy.

The creatures then showed me how they had created life on the planet in order to hide within the multitidinous forms and thus disguise their presence. Before me the magnificence of plant and animal creation and speciation - hundreds of millions of years of activity - took place on a scale and with a vividness impossible to describe. I learned that the dragon-like creatures were thus inside all forms of life, including man. They were the true masters of humanity and the entire planet they told me. We humans were but the receptacles and servants of these creatures. For this reason they could talk to me from within myself."

Shamans Through Time, p170-171
Anthropologist Michael Harner relating his first experience with ayahuasca.

Harner's experience in full is highly insightful, but for the time being I wanted to just raise the above in the context of this thread. Quite aside from the obvious connotations of the Reptilian Brain, the other factor is that we have an enemy that we have no knowledge of, that if it discovered us, it would wish to destroy us.

I don't wish to say more...I have my own thoughts, but I am interested in those of others, and don't wish to direct discussion if it arises.

So, I ended up on some very strange link to a .pdf whilst following a trail of Eidolon23's breadcrumbs and it was the story of this poor guy named, Jim Sparks. This is a story from what appears to be the investigations of L.M. Howe circa 1996. Jim Sparks was a successful real estate developer and all of a sudden at the age of about 35 he started to get physically abducted, through walls and ceilings by Reptilians. Jim called it "The Hard Way" of being abducted.

"I'm usually pulled the same way, which I call the 'hard way', and it's completely physical. My whole body is taken. The first thing I hear is a low pitched, whirling sound in my head, like a whip going around in the air. This is usually after I go to bed and am asleep.

Normally for me, it's 3.30 am in the early morning. I don't know why. I wake up from my natural sleep, and then there's the whirling sensation in the pit of my stomach and it feels like it's coming up into my chest. When it gets up to my heart area, my heart starts beating fast, just racing in my head and the whirling sound starts picking up rpm and is tremendously loud. It starts low and rises in pitch and screams in your head. The fear is like you're going to die.

Your heart is racing a million miles an hour and then you get this acceleration feeling, but I always feel like I'm being pulled down; I never feel like I'm being pulled up. It's like I go down a rollercoaster, only a hundred times faster and whoom, you black out and you're there, wherever it is you're going to be, usually on board a craft."

Extracted from Chapter 3 of Glimpses of Other Realities - Vol. II By Linda Moulton Howe © 1998

And a little more,

"It's their technology. I know the aliens rely heavily on a created field. This field produces several things: the ability to be invisible, the ability to work in one dimension and be partially in another and the ability to move us poor humans through solid matter.

"How exactly it works, I don't know. But I know it's a field. When the field is in action, you can feel it, you can sense it; you almost feel like you are a magnet or static electricity. It takes a wall as you would normally see it and makes it transparent. You walk right through it. So, it's a field that somehow separates molecules, changes your physiology when you're in it."

I have wanted to contribute to this thread somehow. I was digging around for some videos and stuff about voltage levels at the level of the cell membrane and that sort of thing, but I know that there is already an abundance of good links and quotes about that already on the thread.

The reason I wanted to do that is because I was looking for a way to at least start a path around something that member Astyanax pointed out on another thread which is that all of these powerful energies that people like Jim Sparks feel in their bodies are not measurable in any way that produces results or measurements that are considered to be significant.

That's frustrating to me because as I have mentioned before on The GUT's threads, I am a long time experiencer of every permutation of "sleep-paralysis" under the sun. It's been going on in one way shape or form since I was 7 or 8. From about 7 to 14 it was just profound and prolonged hypnagogic states, but the full on "sleep-paralysis" stuff started soon enough and as far as I know, it's still around.

Why am I bringing it up again? Well, a couple of reasons. One is that I have experienced many of the same things that Sparks has. The "whirling" low-pitched vibrating hum that rises in pitch, extreme concentrated fear and the walls and ceilings disappearing. I have seemingly 'hovered' over my bed by a few inches on a 'bed' of the same vibrating hum. I have also seen every variety of light show, but especially, for me anyway, the SP (sleep paralysis, that's what I call it, call it what you will) brings on big bright blue glowing "portals" on ceilings and walls. I have the whole thing, in spades, except for one thing. I have never attributed the experience to aliens, nor have I ever been 'transported' anywhere.

Despite these bizarre experiences, I felt that I owed it to myself to remain objective. If I had decided it was "Aliens" or any other thing in particular, I would have stopped learning about it. That's what I
have always felt anyway.

And so later, when I had 4 or so episodes of seeing UFOs, there was a way already made for me to look beyond what I could easily have confirmed for myself as having been four 'solid' personal UFO sightings. Right? I did get excited, and I did tell people, but there was a path made for myself towards further understanding created by developing the good habit with the SP of not 'deciding' what it was.

After a whole lot of thought and hesitation, I think that I am ready to start talking about it because I have ideas now on 'what it is', and since the ideas were developed while interacting with all of you, you should hear them.

P.S. Please excuse my tardiness if these posts come out rather slowly. I am rather embarrassed to bring these ideas up and I am afraid that you all are going to find them less than scintillating.

Please Stand By

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reply to post by Bybyots


Interesting. For me it was 3am.
I too have experienced the odd sensations while teetering on the brink of slumber for most of my life. I never attributed it to 'aliens' until they started making it VERY CLEAR that there was an external factor to the entire thing. Namely causing my car horn to start blaring outside at 3am.

The most peculiar sensation I have ever experienced in this regard however, and if anyone else has experienced this particular sensation please speak up, is a feeling that my bed, the immediate wall behind the bed, and myself were growing very large, the room was stretching out (from say a square to a rectangle) and the opposite wall is growing very small, all at the same time.

The sensation gives the illusion that you are much LARGER than you truly are. And its one of those deals that happens when you are JUST falling asleep. That point where you're beginning to dream, but you're still aware of your surroundings.

Very cool actually. I wish I could produce that feeling at will (and no, this happens while sober. Been happening off and on since I was a kid).

I feel like if this has happened to anyone else they will know precisely what I mean.


ETA: Eureka! I just realized the feeling is precisely like looking at an animation of a 4D cube!
Wow. That's been happening since I was a tyke. Well before I understood the concept at all.
Hmmm

I want to say first that I think that it is natural for us to sojourn out of our bodies. How many times have we heard the saying "We have to get out of our own way"? "Hey, c'mon, you just have ta get outta your own way. Then you will really soar".

It's Fulcanelli again, you know? He (they) was trying to tell us that the pulse of what is troubling humanity can be found burbling and percolating up through the networks of "common vernacular" or slang. For instance, when a single technical lexical term becomes slang, like "Social Engineering", you know that it's really bugging us. Our ability to get together face to face over these issues has been somehow mysteriously hamstrung, so we work it all out on the invisible meta-network of popular culture expression.

Social Engineering. Two words that describe a deep and profound problem that human beings have not solved concerning how we may trust one another. It can be discussed as a "network security issue" as though people were discussing the best locks to buy for their doors, but it touches on the deepest things that jack us up. And that we turn around and rely on to jack each other.

When this goes away, why we can leave our bodies will make sense. Why "90%" of communication is non-verbal will make sense. We are going to get there.

I'm glad that shamanism and the Michael Harner has come up, because it gives me a way to talk about this stuff that I don't really have a way to talk about. To me, that's what a shaman does; S/he goes out on that network that no one can meet on, that crossroads where "we" meet "it", and they get information from there and bring it back here. Then they dress it up in a narrative, because they have no choice; and society is in that way enhanced.

So, when I read Harner, and how it matched up to Castaneda, I was sure that 'it' was a "They" that had to be fended against. But then later, because again, I had left that path trained in to me by SP, I realized that Castaneda had ripped Harner off in the worst way possible in order to support the story, which in turn was fully supported by UCLA's anthropology department, of a fantasy "Indian" named "Don Juan" and his "secret knowledge".

So now when I read that Harner quote I simply think, "Of course that's what you're limbic system would tell you, Professor Harner, while you are tripping on Ayhuasca". Mike would have agreed.

There is not an 'it' or a 'they' in or out there, it's a loop, and it loops back on us.

And that's pretty much where I am going with this.

BRB

Bybyots
There is not an 'it' or a 'they' in or out there, it's a loop, and it loops back on us.

And that's pretty much where I am going with this.

It's certainly as viable a theory as 'they are not us.' Each theory has big obstacles to overcome. The theory that 'they are us' gives more credit to an 'unreachable' aspect of our own consciousness than I can personally overcome at this point, though.

It would seem to suggest that we can't know ourselves and are slaves to the consequences of that 'unknowing.'

Plus, we have some physical evidence that so far eludes consciousness or neuroscience studies.

Does that make sense?

reply to post by The GUT


If it is all within us, we are very, very 'powerful'. We have the ability to create matter from nothing with our minds. We exist outside of 3D space-time, as we can access knowledge heretofore unknown. We do all of this with a filter self-imposed on our conscious mind to shield us from these abilities, for some reason. Only the most adept learn to be proficient with these abilities and they don't even fully understand it. In essence, we are gods playing a game and occasionally we allow ourselves glimpses of the true nature of reality. I would guess so we can advance.

Very strange, I know, but this is where the evidence leads.
I insist upon it.

reply to post by The GUT

That theory gives more credit to an 'unreachable' aspect of our own consciousness than I can personally overcome at this point, though.

It would seem to suggest that we can't know ourselves and are slaves to the consequences of that 'unknowing."

Well, TG, that's one of the reasons that I have hesitated to express my half-thoughts on all of this. I feel that 10 or 12 years ago I would have found it easy to put periods on the ends of my sentences concerning it all, but I have been going through a little bit of a 'Dark Night of the Soul" around all of this stuff going on more than a year, closer to two.

I absolutely do consider that there is a huge part of us that is out of reach and has remained out of reach for probably tens of thousands of years through succeeding iterations of humankind, like the Hopi talk about. I see it mostly in myself and my own failings. I found it useful at an early age to turn the 'beam' on myself whenever possible to try and discover my motives and what I can learn from them.

For instance, that is part of my personal interpretation of the Blue Star Kachina that will "throw down it's mask, and dance in the marketplace", I think the BSK is us and what might be symbolically represented in that story is a way of all being together that will be unlike how we have ever all been together.

I also think that we are still learning to use our brains.

Plus, we have some physical evidence that so far eludes consciousness or neuroscience studies.

Does that make sense?

Yes it does to me if past iterations of humanity left automated technologies behind. I'm not certain on this, but I do think about it quite a bit when I read about stuff like the cauldrons in the Yakut Valley.

I also don't think that we could not be completely without visitors, I just think that we are 'hermetically' sealed within the narratives that underlie our cultures and that all of the feedback is looped. To our detriment, because that creates Eliade's "cyclical terror of history" that I am always going on about.

reply to post by The GUT

Okay, here's my theory: Maybe all of these various EM technologies--whether on military installations or the civilian kind e.g. cell phones/towers, high-voltage lines/plants--are needed by these non-human intelligences to fully 'manifest' in this world? A worldwide EM network that will eventually allow them a more full entry into our physical world? Maybe they are intelligent enough to kill two birds with one stone? Encourage destructive weapons & communications systems that also facilitate a conducive EM matrix they can bridge the gap with?

So the EM is a Trojan horse? Something they can use to facilitate their control of us or our environment.

You know I always wondered how these ETs so easily could breathe our air

Maybe some massive electronic fields are conducive to their home environment.

Makes sense

I've heard it rumored that Tesla would get these 'flashes' of schematics for electrical devices. Is there any truth to this junk?

He would get flashes of schematics and would intuitively know how they worked.

Did this man dabble in the occult?
Why was he so receptive? I don't think he was as much of a 'genius' as he was made out to be. Truth is, he was a prick. He was compulsive. His poetry wasn't very good. He CERTAINLY was no literary genius.

Later in life he was convinced he was talking with ET. He is the "Father of Modern Electricity". Very strange.

There is a long list of men who contributed to the advent of electricity though. What about them?? I know that Faraday, for instance, had to "take a break" for four years in his research, before coming back with tha' thunder, as they say. Why is that?

ETA: although I WOULD add that he MUST be the father of "gangsta' rap". Haha! If you read his poetry (which I cannot recall the name of ATM), you will find a guy roasting scientists whom he opposed. Its hilarious.

Also, he IMMEDIATELY and vociferously opposed Einstein and his theories of relativity.

This is noted.

Here is something else...

...we should set up a RV program here on ATS. There are MANY ideas running through my head that we could pursue right here on this board that could LITERALLY serve to unlock many of these mysteries and offer legit solutions.

Off the top of my head...let's find out when the damn pyramids were built.

Bybyots
...I absolutely do consider that there is a huge part of us that is out of reach and has remained out of reach for probably tens of thousands of years through succeeding iterations of humankind, like the Hopi talk about. I see it mostly in myself and my own failings. I found it useful at an early age to turn the 'beam' on myself whenever possible to try and discover my motives and what I can learn from them.

Certainly the heart can be deceitful above all else. Individual motivations should always be questioned.

On the other hand, I think I'm pretty simple. My family and friends mean a lot to me and while it's true that I benefit from that, it's also true that I'd give this life for them without much--if any--inner debate.

Then there's the so-called "reptilian brain" that KilgoreTrout referenced. I feel like I understand that aspect of myself fairly well, too. I like to mate, or make sport, and eat, and protective anger can well up within me at all sorts of challenges that contrast with how my ego may prefer it to be. So, I feel like I have a fair grasp on the whys and wherefores of those impulses, too.

That our subconscious life is also complex and comes into play I have no doubt. But does it contain all the mysteries of the universe, and ourselves, held constantly beyond our grasp? I can't go there yet.

Which brings me to another thought: Are we--earth lifeforms--the ONLY consciousness extant? Not "beings" necessarily, but self-referencing Consciousness. Maybe, but something tells me no.

For instance, that is part of my personal interpretation of the Blue Star Kachina that will "throw down it's mask, and dance in the marketplace", I think the BSK is us and what might be symbolically represented in that story is a way of all being together that will be unlike how we have ever all been together.

I also think that we are still learning to use our brains.

The Hopi assert other lifeforms in their narratives don't they? Or am I confused on that? Not that it matters, as we're probably talking about cosmic truth as piecemeal and incomplete and we take it where we can get it?

That our brains have much more potential, I have no doubt. That we are still learning to use them is--on looking around--debatable on how well that's going.

JayinAR
Also, he IMMEDIATELY and vociferously opposed Einstein and his theories of relativity.

This is noted.

Hasn't it been fairly-well established that Relativity is just a 'shadow' of the physics we haven't grasped yet, and that it breaks down at the quantum level? Doesn't the wave/particle slit test show its flaws/blindspots? I am willing to be corrected on that.

Tesla was definitely a lil' cuckoo it seems, but that probably goes with the territory. HEY, you brought it up, so it's on YOU to bring us some Tesla poetry/gangsta rap, Jay...sounds fun!!

I will say that the more one digs into technical modern weaponry papers/theories, the more one hears the name Tesla. Not so much Einstein...then again, after the bomb, maybe Einstein had the last word so to speak?

JayinAR
Off the top of my head...let's find out when the damn pyramids were built.

If the answers conflicted, where would that leave us?

On the other hand, a more simple but solid triple-blind test could be designed for proof of concept.

Seems like maybe someone did that here before, but the details are hazy.

Willtell
So the EM is a Trojan horse? Something they can use to facilitate their control of us or our environment...Maybe some massive electronic fields are conducive to their home environment.

Makes sense

If, and I realize it's a big "if," we consider the literature that suggests the EM aspect of close-encounters and phenomenology, then it certainly doesn't contradict the theory.

That is, if EM actually does facilitate encounters with some form of non-human intelligence, then the suggestion is that such fields are conducive to both their realm and their appearance in ours.

Sorry if this was already mentioned.

Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works director had admitted in his Deathbed Confession that Extraterrestrial UFO visitors are real and the U.S. Military travel among stars.
According to article published in May 2010 issue of the Mufon UFO Journal – Ben Rich, the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works, had once let out information about Extraterrestrial UFO Visitors Are Real And U.S. Military Travel To Stars

reply to post by The GUT



I give but one passage that is the genius, Sir Tesla's personage, TO WIT:

"
Below, on Earth, they work at full blast And news are coming in thick and fast. The latest tells of a cosmic gun. To be pelted is very poor fun. We are wary with so much at stake, Those beggars are a pest—no mistake."

"Too bad, Sir Isaac, they dimmed your renown And turned your great science upside down. Now a long haired crank, Einstein by name, Puts on your high teaching all the blame. Says: matter and force are transmutable And wrong the laws you thought immutable."

Eh, this be all refutable.