Gov't shutdown and Chemtrails link???

Shugo
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

Bad time journaling. If you're going to do research based off photographs for this kind of study you never ever leave the site of the first photo. You've completely destroyed ANY argument you could have made with those photos.

I see your point. Well you'll have to take my word for it that the reservoir was only 5 miles away from the Citgo. Next time I shall do better.

waynos
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

And what of the data for those trails? Namely aircraft type, registration, flight number, operator, departure point and destination altitude, time and date?

I do this for all my photos. Without it they mean, and prove, nothing.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I was reading that thread the other day. I can't figure out how you know all that info about the aircraft, speed, altitude, origin/destination, registration. You're more professional than I am. My camera is just a HP817. I need better camera equipment! How do you do all the info stuff?

tsurfer2000h
reply to post by NONPOINT21

 

Thanks for showing up, i appreciate you answer to the simple question of the thread. Keep trolling away, I'm sure your opinion will sway mine along with countless others now. You've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that contrails aren't over Cincinnati and whatever city your in and there certainly aren't any chemtrails because they certainly couldn't be true.

You do understand he has more time around planes than most people in this thread combined?

terrible argument.

worthless actually.

as [s]he obviously has a vested interest in defending her/his good buddies in the MIC,
you know, the ones that give her/him the inside scoop on the latest toys for the flygirl/flyboys, the arrested adolescents of the aire, who are EXPERTS when parroting the OS, but are considered worthless as witnesses/sources when not.

which is all [s]he posts here:
"the latest FU-Humdinger® out of Skunkworks!
New and improved! [The better to sneakily bomb 3rd worlders!]
Painted with STEALTHYCOATING™ !"

AbleEndangered
I'm starting to think people are catching on...

Understatement of the year
it would be interesting to put every single post made on chemtrail/geo engineering threads, organized by each member
and eliminate all contradictory posts, the denialists/bots/shills columns would be empty given the constant BS and reversals; sometimes even in the same thread!

"CONTRAILS ARE JUST WATER VAPOR @#&$$$&?%~!!!" they've been saying forever...

and only an idiot would have failed to notice the latest reversal: now they admit it's pollution, of course they have to, since they themselves gave it away with the pictures and "studies" showing what exhaust is composed of.
truly the right brain doesn't know what the left brain is doing, never mind where their hands have been.


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Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

It's a THEORETICAL solution to a problem. The idea is to throw ideas at the problem then pick the best solution. Just because an idea is out there doesn't mean they ate doing it.

It doesn't mean they are doing it, however I don't put anything past crazy people. You and I would like to think they wouldn't but... are they? We really don't know. We assume yes or no.

Time tells all though. One day, I believe we will know and that time has not come yet.

I would like to think our government is smarter than that and would never allow such. HAHAHA !! See... even that is such a laugh to me. Smarter? Nah..

reply to post by Mikeultra


You can use websites such as plane finder and Flightradar 24, the latter is my preference but different ones seem to work better in different locations so it's best to experiment with them. FR24 also provides an app for iOS and Android so I can use mu iPhone and iPad when out and about.

After a little practice it gets easier to use. Basically I make sure the eastward side of the map is actually facing east (because this coast is only 80 miles away from me and is easier to orientate with, you may find another way) . You can zoom on your current location using the gps on your device and the real time map displays the traffic movements. You can click on any aircraft it displays and obtain all the data you need. Since I wrote the thread FR24 has been massively improved and now even displays little Cessnas etc, which is excellent.

When there are several aircraft leaving trails it is amazing to see the pattern in the sky replicated on screen at the same time and be able to tell who is doing what.

One tip is, when a plane is too low to leave a trail, by the time you hear it it is already past you they are incredibly hard to spot visually without a contrail and there have been a lot that have gone without me seeing them at all, despite the app telling me exactly where they are. This is worth thinking about whenever someone claims no spraying = fewer aircraft. not really

Here is a screen shot in just took for you, not much happening at 2am here, but you can see how it works. The bright blue dot to the left of the A1M is my location, the white bordered blue dot next to Finningley is Doncaster Airport ( ex RAF Finningley). You can tap on airports for a list of any airborne flights due to land there. You can tap on the radar scope at the top centre and you see 'through' your camera so you can actually hold the device up to the sky and it will pick out and identify any flights passing over.

These were taken 08/24/2012 at 1:03 PM eastern. Hunterdon County, N.J.
Obviously chem-trails spreading out into a chemical cloud.

reply to post by Mikeultra


If you look at the screenshot I edited in, you can see how you could apply that to the lower photo you added to see exactly who that was. You have to do it live on the app, but on the website you can "rewind" up to two weeks. If you do that your cameras exif data will tell you exactly when you took the picture, you just have to remember where.

Whatever your ultimate findings, I hope this is useful to you.

To me it is more obviously contrails being blown by upper air currents. I'll see what I can dig up for that date and location.


Argh, I though you posted September 24, not August. It cant go back that far, but at least you know what to look for in future

Thanks so much for that! Here is a shot of what it looks like over here now!

We had a ton of chemtrails in rural Kentucky last week. I wish I took photos but didn't. Perhaps the chemtrail employees are not laid off due to the shutdown.

reply to post by Mikeultra


Yep, its a lot busier than you think most of the time, if you zoom out it looks even scarier

This is going to take me some time to get the hang of. Can this be used with a desktop home pc? I'm not sure about the exif info. That's in the computer after I download the photo to the pc right? I'm sorry I got info overload here now, and it's late over your way. I will play around with the Flight24 site and do my best to figure it out. Then I'll get back to you for help later. Thanks again for showing me that. I really appreciate it.
Mike

BattleStarGal
We had a ton of chemtrails in rural Kentucky last week. I wish I took photos but didn't. Perhaps the chemtrail employees are not laid off due to the shutdown.

The United Nation has tons of cash!

reply to post by Metaphysique


That would be the same Kristen Meghan that said she was NOT a whistleblower for chemtrails, would it?

Well thats one worthless piece of info you put up, right there. You then continue the trend by continuing to post geoengineering claims as if they support the existance of chemtrails. Geo engineering is real, we all know about it, geo engineering does not prove chemtrails because they are not the same thing, but if one divorces GE proposal evidence from chemtrails theres nothing left, that why the liars and hoaxers like you push it so hard.

There is no reversal in the debunking position at all. combustion of fossil fuels creates pollution, this has been known since the industrial revolution, so you are lying again with that claim.

The visible trail you see in the sky is water vapour, the exhaust is not visible, when planes are below the freezing region that causes contrails to be formed they are not flying with their engines turned off, they are still polluting, you just cannot see it. Think about that.

You havent done very well at all with that post have you, just another load of transparent moonshine. I prefer the approch of Mikeultra who believes, but also seems interested in researching as well rather than just believing what someone says.

That's it, just asking if your cities have chemtrails above them today. Have you noticed a change since the shutdown? Cincinnati and surrounding areas do not currently.

reply to post by NONPOINT21


I don't know about the government shut down, but I have noticed a dramatic drop in chemtrails in my area during the summer months and was wondering if the cooler and below normal temperatures had anything to do with it. Anyone else notice a dramatic drop in the number of chemtrails this past summer?

I may have to buy a laptop so I can hunt down in live time these damned chem-trailers, now that I have the proper technology. First I need to get a better camera. Then the laptop! I understand now what I have to do using the home pc. Remember the time and location for each photo, then backtrack on Flightradar24! Excellent.

MamaJ

Zaphod58
reply to post by Mikeultra

 

It's a THEORETICAL solution to a problem. The idea is to throw ideas at the problem then pick the best solution. Just because an idea is out there doesn't mean they ate doing it.

It doesn't mean they are doing it, however I don't put anything past crazy people. You and I would like to think they wouldn't but... are they? We really don't know. We assume yes or no.

Time tells all though. One day, I believe we will know and that time has not come yet.

I would like to think our government is smarter than that and would never allow such. HAHAHA !! See... even that is such a laugh to me. Smarter? Nah..

don't be fooled
governments have a near monopoly on Mad scientists
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Mikeultra
This is going to take me some time to get the hang of. Can this be used with a desktop home pc?

Yes it can, and like I say practice helps, you'll become more familiar with it the more you use it, I tend only to use the app nowadays unless I want to use the replay feature.

I'm not sure about the exif info. That's in the computer after I download the photo to the pc right?

Yes, you right-click the image and look at its properties, its all in there.

I'm sorry I got info overload here now, and it's late over your way. I will play around with the Flight24 site and do my best to figure it out. Then I'll get back to you for help later. Thanks again for showing me that. I really appreciate it.
Mike

No probs, small steps is always the best way to start. Good luck. And dont think debunking is a bad thing, it just means removing bunk (see above) what is left must then be the truth and thats what counts. You can be a believer and a debunker at the same time. Its how I began, well, more curiosity than belief but you get the point.

reply to post by WeRpeons


They tend to drop every summer, genuinely, but if I try to explain why we'll be back on that old gravy train again and I need my bed, g'night.

No they are still going on. David Keith said the cost to dump aluminum particles in the air is extremely cheap.

I noticed there are drones with the Geo-Engineering planes now too. They are silent and float instead of fly. They look remote controlled.

reply to post by Mikeultra


I prefer the FlightRadar24 app on the phone because you can link it to your phones camera and it will display the information if the plane is broadcasting. Not all of them do but more and more are.