Vampire Hunters / Researchers

aptrgangr

Unity_99
I really would hope there would be another group serving and protecting, some kind of slayers of the psychopaths.

Perhap that is some of what MIBs do

Interesting tangent. Strangely, some MIB accounts and traits have a nasty similarity to fictional vampire descriptions. Though, a lot of vampire descriptions in the extreme end seem to be along the line of some alien descriptions and at times I wonder if there isn't a thread, but that is so far outside my wheelhouse that I can begin to look deeper, just look at point to similarities.

My family has been experiencing things all my life, and I had an MIB experience, in appearance right out of a movie scene. 5 men in agent smith type outfits, walking shoulder to shoulder directly across the road from our house in a townhouse roadway, and I looked away for a moment, it hit me what I'd seen, looked back and they vanished. Though they didn't have time to get far. I don't treat any ufology related experience, as negatives exactly, either. I just stand ground, try to choose higher mind response.

Sleeper on ats, Lou Baldin, speaks about MIB's and some Ets who are various things, some robotic even, ai type workers/assasins. Its as if, various sides with different agendas and some of them round up renegades from past cycles.

I would hope if there were other races here, more predatory to humans, ie up the food chain, that any opposition was looking for abuses, and only interested in stopping or nerfing even, those that are psychopathic. This is the thing, its not even necessary to murder someone who is acting out of pain or trauma, nerfing works too. I know ETs and even the para military nerfs some of those here, so I think its highly possible any other groups might experience that too. If Et or black ops are invovled, dont see why there is any reason for violence, and no one should be an assassin when there are other ways, unless its immediate self defense.

reply to post by aptrgangr

Oh ya were have I not meet somebody who thinks there something other then they are, and on the internet everybody is and can be somebody else. I have found more often then not that the rules of the internet apply. If you have never heard of the rules of the internet? Well Google it up.

Like I said, get in line. And the fact is, you would not even be the craziest lady on this site with your pseudo vampire thing you got going on that I have came across, # the princess and the goddesses which permeate the online and real world are much more of a blood suckers then you are. So yes your not a vampire, your not even a good actor, or writer, nor do you believe your own bull# unquestionably which is a prerequisite required to even be considered truly nutty.

Nope! Not by a long shot. The real crazys dont even know there crazys, and trust you me I run into them with what seems to be sometimes pretty dam often frequency.

Besides sucking blood without the ability to turn to mist, or fly, or lift cars, or even wear cool capes is pointless. Well! to put it bluntly, Its like having a bucket or cup without a bottom on it, defeats the whole point of having a cup then does it not? I mean how will you drink water out of it? What is the point of it? So Ya! OK! You say that sucking blood makes you a vampire? I say that makes you some sort of deluded idiot.

What say you on that subject?

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Well civility and all. What exactly qualifies the OP as being a vampire, so far it seems that its been nothing but a bunch of nothings. I mean do go on, please repeat for the 30 time how this is all about coming to understand vampires. All while saying absolutely nothing about the subject.

I mean here answer some basic questions OP?

How much do you weigh?
How old are you?
How much blood have you drunk ever?

Can you walk on water? I seen it in a movie, its not only a religious thing.

If your a vampire you should have no reflection, how about a selfy picture with a mirror in the background?

Now everybody know vampires have super strength, seeing as such you should be able to lift at the very least a 150 pound dumbbell over your head like its nothing.

I mean what kind of vampire are you if you cant even turn into a bat?

Can we like get testimonies from the people you sucked blood from? Maybe then you would be a bit more believable. For all we know they could have just pricked themselfs or had a paper cut and some weirdo probably started licking the blood of the paper.

Have you ever heard of a little thing called blood diseases, like I dont know say HIV among others.

What about the whole sunlight thing? Whats up with that?

Well since blood keeps you youthful and prolongs your life a before and after picture should help in proving that. Say a picture from 1930 and a picture from 2013, if you still look the same maybe we would be inclined to say that pictures can be faked. But if you look like you aged in a 10 years difference photos and are some scrawny sickly looking thing, I think that does not qualify as being a vampire. But it would qualify you for being a bit confused.

I mean how are we to believe your a vampire? Do you even at the least wear a fancy cape? Are you pasty white doe to lack of sunlight? Do you even have the fangs/teeth? Are you allergic to garlic? Do you count everything thing that comes your way compulsively? Do you sparkle when exposed to sunlight?

For all we know you just may be a larp person playing makebelieve, or have really crummy fashion sense, for all we know you probably read twilight one to many times.

I mean drinking blood does not make you a vampire. It generally makes you have a stomach ache and extremely sick if done in any large quantities. It may even give you diarrhea. Which brings me to my next question.-->How often do you take a #? Last I heard vampires doe to the fact that they can sustain themselfs on blood only do not need to # nowhere near that often as humans. I think and theory has it they only use the bathroom to take a dump every some months.

Now I assume your hibernating stage would at least be that equivalent to a bear at the least, and seeing as bears can go the entire winter which is sometimes months and months without peeing or pooping. Well you should be able to achieve the same thing, after all should not be that hard for a vampire to just slow your metabolism to a crawl and cuddle in your coffin. You could even put David Blane to shame with a trick like that.

Also when you hibernate in your coffin do you wear adult diapers just in case? I mean you say your a vampire, OK I totally believe you as I believe every person I come across on the internet...But I got to ask, so you suck blood or sucked some blood...But... what then?.. I mean... And then?... What?...And then?

I could ask more questions but these would suffice for now.

galadofwarthethird
What say you on that subject?

Since you asked, I'd say, that you're acting and speaking out of fear, confusion and in the manner unbecoming. I expect you think that if you yell nonsense long enough at me I'll wither, curl up and blow away but nothing could be further from the truth. It's been over-said but, it's really irrelevant what I think I am or even what others do, because I never intended to be the topic. I've gotten plenty of connections through U2U messages, because few are willing to stand out here and take the hits in public the way I have.

I feel your presence and attitude has strongly diminished my faith in humans and only reinforced my view of the majority of them as a meal that talks. There are exceptions to that rule, some notable exceptions with sharp minds, intelligence, wit, creativity and empathy to match my own, but I'm afraid you make a very strong case to the contrary. Thank goodness for diversity. I forgive you and am sorry you're angry.

reply to post by aptrgangr


Queen's Vampire Research Center is worth checking out.

And on the topic of hunters, I know that turning someone under a certain age (16-18) is against the rules. The reason for it is because even "born" vampires physically age until maturity.

The theory among certain people (myself included) is that the human soul can act as a base. Ultimately, a person's body is only a vessel and not always indicative of the soul's composition. That's why I mentioned auras.

I believe that before any intelligent conversation can be had about true vampire hunter/investigators the validity of true vampires would have to be established first.

If there really is such a thing as a real vampire then it falls to reason that a society that would hunt such a creature would also exist. Sadly both of these rely on the assumption that vampires are indeed true creatures.

So far nothing the OP has stated has shown the validity of vampires. It is so very easy to type I am a vampire and there will be some people that will always believe because they want or need to believe so that their world view is justified. That does not, however, make the statement true.

There is just as much anecdotal evidence for the existence of fairies, trolls, gnomes and even Santa Claus. I mean, Santa Claus even has postal address' from many different countries across the world.

To just come on a site such as ATS and expect everyone to automatically believe that you are a vampire, or they are shortsighted and narrow-minded, is, well, shortsighted and narrow-minded.

I would love nothing more than to have a real, honest to goodness, intelligent conversation about vampire hunters but unfortunately the existence of the vampire has yet to be proved.

reply to post by galadofwarthethird


Well our vampire here doesnt really know a lot about vampires. For example were they discussed the term vampyr thinking its some modern word or something not realizing its true origins.Any way most of your descriptions of vampires is an 18th century creation on vampires. None of these attributes existed before then in fact entirely opposite.In the middle ages vampires didnt exist at all. They had something called revenants or the walking dead at first reappearing to avenge some wrong done to them. This warps into a different version where they return to curse the living and pass on disease and death.No coincidence this was during the black death think of the symptoms and think about vampires you see a correlation.Only these things were seen as weak sickly and of course brought death.

Then this was re revived in the 1700s to what we would consider the modern vampire. You must realize Europe had become much more sophisticated and so did there myths. The biggest boost was not Dracula this was a creation of Brahms Stoker. His name was actually Arnold Paole this is where Stoker had the inspiration for his book. Paole was a legal bandit he would be all most like a mercenary or early pirates who were sanctioned by the crown to steal any way he died in 1726 after his death 4 people became ill ill and died very suddenly though they claimed it was from paole. So the local military commander became involved had his grave dug up and they found a corpse that didnt look dead but instead looked like it had eaten and gained weight with blood dripping from his mouth. Even claimed there was a river of blood and the corpse moaned when they staked him. This is of course normal decomposition process but they were unaware of this because when they found corpses that were above ground there is an entirely different process involving maggots ect. Then it happens again i think it was like 5 years later and again the government gets involved but this involved medical reports from 2 army surgeons quite fascinating on how little they knew about decomposition.

In short vampires never really existed they started as a method of control not to wrong your neighbor.Then became an excuse for illnesses like the plague have to understand this during the plague they thought it was supernatural. Sorry if i bored everyone lets just say when i was growing up i had a fascination with the macab had every monster book imaginable from vampires werewolf and my favorite were ghosts of course all ways the best stories.

CloudSylver

Queen's Vampire Research Center is worth checking out.

Yes well spotted. That's the place in the UK I mentioned earlier in the thread but had not remembered the name for. I looks like a professional site but, as it's using a ton of stock images, I'm not sure what to make of it and it's only recently come to my attention. Good find though.

CloudSylver
And on the topic of hunters, I know that turning someone under a certain age (16-18) is against the rules. The reason for it is because even "born" vampires physically age until maturity.

The theory among certain people (myself included) is that the human soul can act as a base. Ultimately, a person's body is only a vessel and not always indicative of the soul's composition. That's why I mentioned auras.

Your theory on the soul is not unknown to me. I have thought on that topic as well and the way you are describing it, sounds like you've done some real digging as I'm possitive it's one of those theories that are eschewed in general by the majority if the larger groups, but I don't feel they have their eyes open in general. I feel it's accurate and it's interesting you remark about that in the same breath as turning. I have to assume you're connected. Hi there.

As to turning under a certain age, are you aware of any who have told you that personally, CS? As in, did someone tell you they enforce this? I'm sure some of the more self-righteous vampires or even the teaspooners might try to, but in this case I'm more interested to know about non-Others who would be aware of it and will act on it.

I'm pleased you're adding to this.

reply to post by aptrgangr

The weight of my claim comes from me, talking about me. I can verify it and I can demonstrate it.

But, unfortunately, I bet you a dollar you won't demonstrate it. I bet you will come up with some argument that it would put you in some form of danger, even though you are a supernatural creature, so you will refrain from showing us the proof. You will tell us you can do it but you won't show us.

And... vampires are not the only "supernatural" thing in the world, so, lets get that out there right now.

I have been a police officer for 20 + years (disabled now). I have been shot at, stabbed and run over by a vehicle. I have worked every shift known and used to love the night shift because if anything was going to happen, especially on the weekend, it was then.

I have walked through abandoned buildings and cemeteries in the dead of night. I have been in hospital morgues with the deceased. I have seen death in so many different forms that it is unimaginable and I have died myself three (3) times and been brought back.

Through all of that I have never once seen anything remotely "supernatural" yet you wish us to believe that you are a supernatural being just because you type it on a forum.

mikelkhall
You wish us to believe that you are a supernatural being just because you type it on a forum.

You don't seem to read the multiple times I write it so let me be specific, just for you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

mikelkhall
Through all of that I have never once seen anything remotely "supernatural"

That's possibly the most tragic thing I've ever heard. I can't imagine what it must be like to be so handicapped.

Compare the events of Colares Brazil 1977 to the behavior of Vampires...

aptrgangr

CloudSylver

Queen's Vampire Research Center is worth checking out.

Yes well spotted. That's the place in the UK I mentioned earlier in the thread but had not remembered the name for. I looks like a professional site but, as it's using a ton of stock images, I'm not sure what to make of it and it's only recently come to my attention. Good find though.

CloudSylver
And on the topic of hunters, I know that turning someone under a certain age (16-18) is against the rules. The reason for it is because even "born" vampires physically age until maturity.

The theory among certain people (myself included) is that the human soul can act as a base. Ultimately, a person's body is only a vessel and not always indicative of the soul's composition. That's why I mentioned auras.

Your theory on the soul is not unknown to me. I have thought on that topic as well and the way you are describing it, sounds like you've done some real digging as I'm possitive it's one of those theories that are eschewed in general by the majority if the larger groups, but I don't feel they have their eyes open in general. I feel it's accurate and it's interesting you remark about that in the same breath as turning. I have to assume you're connected. Hi there.

As to turning under a certain age, are you aware of any who have told you that personally, CS? As in, did someone tell you they enforce this? I'm sure some of the more self-righteous vampires or even the teaspooners might try to, but in this case I'm more interested to know about non-Others who would be aware of it and will act on it.

I'm pleased you're adding to this.

According to an acquaintance of mine, there's also The Lost Timeless Girl, who is in fact a vampire and not a time traveler. He's been involved with both the research group and the people who run the blog.

It's essentially possible to turn any human based hybrid into a vampire, but I'm afraid the theory in general isn't something that's widely researched. Not all vampires even have souls, and I know of one case in particular where a soul was "gained" via merging with it. One interesting thing I can tell you is that memories are strongly tied to a soul.

Yeah, I was personally told that rule after having a friend recite his upsetting experience. The only ones who will enforce it are hunters, but it's somewhat up to the hunter's discretion and can be overlooked. Manpower is limited, too, so that has a lot to do with it. I'm personally neutral and don't think anyone should be terminated just for existing, nor has it been my experience that all members of a species are inherently good or bad. The terms are relative.

reply to post by aptrgangr

Not going to go into much more of that, it's only attracting mouth-breathers. ATS wasn't the place of exploration I presumed.

What exactly did you presume you would get from ATS?

It's obvious you're an intelligent person, but based on the fact that this is a conspiracy site, and also based on the fact that you knew full well that it is a conspiracy site....what exactly was the response you were expecting?

Did you really think that members here would just take you at your word that your a vampire, and then go on to discuss whether or not anyone is, or knows of vampire hunters?....seriously?

My personal opinion is that your playing a clever game, you know which buttons to press to further your claims, you know how to handle the less experienced "trolls" for want of a better word, cleverly dismissing them and diminishing your claims to be a vampire as a secondary fact.

But at the end of the day the only thing that you are bringing to this "place of exploration" is a story, quite a good one.....but a story non the less.

Well played ma'am .....very well played indeed.

reply to post by aptrgangr



So no vampire hunters found, possible positve reasons;


1. Everyone is simply too scared of vampires because of their super-nuptial cravings.

2. Everyone likes vampires because they have black hair and it's longer than Hitlers.

3. Everyone enjoys vampire movies and realizes that without vampires these would cease.

Or negative;

4. Nobody has ever seen a vampire because they rarely leave their bedrooms.

5. Nobody has ever heard of a vampire because they have very loud music playing.

6. Nobody wants to see underpaid workers in the cosmetics industry lose their jobs.

Or

7. Vampire Hunters are smarter than Vampires, especially the one's named after a zombie.

reply to post by Argyll

Well played ma'am .....very well played indeed.

I disagree...she doesn't play very well at all.

Through all of that I have never once seen anything remotely "supernatural" yet you wish us to believe that you are a supernatural being just because you type it on a forum.

That's possibly the most tragic thing I've ever heard. I can't imagine what it must be like to be so handicapped.

If you do not agree with her then she just maligns you and tells you that you are handicapped.

You don't seem to read the multiple times I write it so let me be specific, just for you. I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

Yet in your opening op you did not state that you were not trying to convince anyone that you were not anything. In fact you stated:

As a vampire, one would assume I'd be cautious in this regard but my curiosity far outweighs any fear and I really don't fear much, much less humans.

When you state "As a vampire" you are in fact trying to convince everyone that you are something.

And to the second part of that sentence, I sense a lot of fear radiating from your posts towards those that do not take for granted your supernatural claims. You are afraid that someone may break through the flimsy role-playing persona that you have so carefully constructed for your story.

So at this point in time I say put up or shut up. You made a wild claim of being a supernatural creature and that you do not fear humans. I say stand by your word and show us.

The weight of my claim comes from me, talking about me. I can verify it and I can demonstrate it.

The weight of that claim was that you were a vampire so once again you were trying to convince us that you were something and then you went on to say that you could verify it and even demonstrate it. ATS has a fond saying "pictures or it didn't happen". I say to you once again, stand by your claim and verify and demonstrate for us that you are what you say you are. If you fail to do so then you will fall by the wayside as every other con-artist that has ever tried to fool, unsuccessfully, ATS in the past.

The ball is in your court.