Fukushima A Disaster Still Growing and Killing Humanity and Sea Life! Where is the Outrage???

reply to post by ItDepends


I am inclined to believe a system could devised to filter out radioactive particles. I could be wrong but I think every technologically adept country in the world should be working on a way to do just that. It probably won't happen though, and that's the result of tptb influencing the course of events if you ask me. They want population control, and more specifically they want to kill a lot of people to make resources last longer. If they just let fukushima rage on out of control, it will accomplish population control for them and the general public will just blame it on TEPCO/Japan even though I believe the U.S. helped them build that reactor.

Here's another thought that I don't think is addressed appropriately. We have in the U.S. many many nuclear plants that are in a similar state of danger that Fukushima was/is. Look up a map of nuclear plants in the U.S. then think about how many are near fault lines and major waterways. How long will it take before a major earthquake...say at the New Madrid fault line for example goes off and then we have not just one Fukushima like melt down event, but potentially several all at once. Why haven't these other nuclear plants been shut down. There are alternative energies that could be explored which are significantly safer and in the long run, less expensive. I guess putting solar panels on everyone's roof is just too difficult....no wait it's not. So why isn't this being addressed? Seems obvious to me.

MyHappyDogShiner
reply to post by Alekto

 

It will be very dilute and settle into the seabed over time, and maybe it won't be so bad if it is stopped somehow within whatever time-frame, but if it is not stopped or reduced, it will become an accumulation of radiation over time in the seabed where much of the food chain begins.

Nobody knows for sure what will happen, but everybody knows excess amounts of radiation are not a good thing.

There probably won't be a big direct radiation risk really, but a possible interruption in the food chain in the ocean, the whole planet may be set off balance over time.

How much more imbalance can the planet tolerate before it can no longer support life as we know it?.

Exactly, I agree with almost everything you've stated. However, the real FACT. The radiation continues....and is pouring tons of radioactive waste EVERY DAY into the Pacific Ocean. I am not an expert, but dilution can only handle so much at some point.

Your point about the food chain being affected is right on.....and as you say, overtime (isn't that the BIG question?), 2+ years later and no fix in sight.

My whole point of this thread was to simply say that this is a problem, a really BIG one and it is only continuing to get worse everyday.....and the MSM doesn't seem to be paying a lot of attention to it. Granted, a lot of World problems going on.....I just wonder when this problem finally gets to the front burner of public attention, how much more damage and environmental effects that will be irreversable happen? Peace!!

Thanks again for your participation!

reply to post by ItDepends


The only people who are voicing an opinion on this are the ones who are threatened by it, the rest of the world even though they may also be threatened by it eventually (but not yet) couldn't give a monkeys, because they are humans and it's not in their neighbourhoods (yet) but that is a fact, in general people couldn't give a damn about other people let alone a japanese nuclear meltdown.... this is now a world of me me me me me me me what about me's a whole planet full of 'em......

GrimReaper86
reply to post by ItDepends

 

I am inclined to believe a system could devised to filter out radioactive particles. I could be wrong but I think every technologically adept country in the world should be working on a way to do just that. It probably won't happen though, and that's the result of tptb influencing the course of events if you ask me. They want population control, and more specifically they want to kill a lot of people to make resources last longer. If they just let fukushima rage on out of control, it will accomplish population control for them and the general public will just blame it on TEPCO/Japan even though I believe the U.S. helped them build that reactor.

Here's another thought that I don't think is addressed appropriately. We have in the U.S. many many nuclear plants that are in a similar state of danger that Fukushima was/is. Look up a map of nuclear plants in the U.S. then think about how many are near fault lines and major waterways. How long will it take before a major earthquake...say at the New Madrid fault line for example goes off and then we have not just one Fukushima like melt down event, but potentially several all at once. Why haven't these other nuclear plants been shut down. There are alternative energies that could be explored which are significantly safer and in the long run, less expensive. I guess putting solar panels on everyone's roof is just too difficult....no wait it's not. So why isn't this being addressed? Seems obvious to me.

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I agree, you would think that precautions, solutions and responses would be ready for such disasters. Apparently Japan has sought help.

Japan is in touch with experts in the United States and elsewhere on ways to control the spread of irradiated water at the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant, trade and economics minister Toshimitsu Motegi told Reuters.

^^^^^More about seeking help >>>>>HERE

flipflop
reply to post by ItDepends

 

The only people who are voicing an opinion on this are the ones who are threatened by it, the rest of the world even though they may also be threatened by it eventually (but not yet) couldn't give a monkeys, because they are humans and it's not in their neighbourhoods (yet) but that is a fact, in general people couldn't give a damn about other people let alone a japanese nuclear meltdown.... this is now a world of me me me me me me me what about me's a whole planet full of 'em......

Yup, I hear ya. "not my problem" (yet) let someone else worry about it. Or, "hey I'll be dead by then, why should I care" type of reasoning. Your are exactly right...."its a world of about me's"

reply to post by ItDepends


You know the funny thing is that this Advisor said that Tepco
should release all the stored Water in to the Ocean,
i linked that Article in the Press-Thread!

The stored Water is the Water from the Reactor Cooling and very contaminated
but 99% of the Isotopes could get filtered by ALPS!

Alekto
Bordering Fukushima. If it was going to have some effect on Japan then we would've seen a massive spike in cancers/leukemia/radiation sickness by now from the initial accident.

The contamination is too diluted and too spread out. Same reason why taking a thimblefull of some poison that would kill you in thimblefulls, dropping it in an olympic sized swimming pool, waiting a week, then drinking a glass of water from that pool won't kill you - there just isn't enough to affect you.

I know you will not agree, but there are other opinions out there.

It was recently reported that the radioactive fallout in Japan during 2011 has now caused thyroid disease in the farthest corners of the world. Children born in Alaska, California, Hawaii, Oregon, and Washing-ton within one to sixteen weeks after the nuclear accident in Japan were 28% more likely to suffer from congenital hypothyroidism than in the preceding year.

^^^^The article is located here>>>LINK

The attached video I think is 'one' of the main long lasting concerns for all of us to aware of and potentially worried about...the 'Fallout' (short enough of a film, gets to the point pretty quickly)

Fukushima Fallout and Ilnesses

Tepco Adviser Promoted Fukushima Water Dump to Ocean in Op-Ed

Irradiated water at Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501)’s Fukushima plant will probably have to be dumped into the ocean after contamination is brought to safe levels, an adviser to the company’s water management task force said.

The ocean release will be necessary because water can’t be stored in tanks indefinitely at the Dai-Ichi station after being used to cool the plant’s overheating reactor fuel, Lake Barrett, a former official with the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, wrote in a Sept. 9 opinion piece posted on the website of the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists.

The article by Barrett, who’ll be advising the utility known as Tepco on water management at the site, could offer clues to its strategy for handling the 338,000 metric tons of contaminated water stored in more than 1,000 tanks at the plant.

That amount is increasing by about 400 tons a day. “Spending billions and billions of yen on building tanks to try to capture almost every drop of water on the site is unsustainable, wasteful, and counterproductive,” Barrett wrote.

“I see no realistic alternative to a program that cleans up water with improved processing systems so it meets very protective Japanese release standards and then, after public discussion, conducts an independently confirmed, controlled release to the sea.”

Bloomberg

I wanted to share something that was quite scary:

www.chrisjordan.com...

reply to post by ForbiddenDesire

Forget world war 3, this is the beginning of the end of the world.When the used fuel rod containment fails all plants will die in the united states and many other countries. We dont even have to wait for our spent fuel rod containers to crack in a quake which would have happened eventually .
Just think, for years atomic energy was promoted as green energy, what a scam.
just as new york said the air at 911 ground zero was safe to breath,we wont be told the truth until the bodies start piling up and its to late.

Well i guess we all might as well just start digging our graves. There is no hope that this
Will not kill us all.
Something here dont add up.
I have a hard time believing that all the governments of the world are just sitting back
And letting Japan take care of this impossible situation. If this was truly an extinction level
Event, why would we do nothing but watch it happen? Has the president been told that
This will kill us all, but he just ignored it?
Sorry but im just not buying it.

I found that outrage you were asking about....oh wait....

Now why is the Japanese government all outraged....


"Thanks to Fukushima, sumo is now an Olympic sport"

Japan anger over French Fukushima cartoon

Japan will formally protest about a cartoon in a French satirical weekly of sumo wrestlers with extra limbs at the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant.

The caption says: "Thanks to Fukushima, sumo is now an Olympic sport", a reference to Tokyo's successful bid to host the 2020 Olympic Games.

Japan overcame concerns about the plant, which was crippled by the 2011 earthquake and tsunami, to win the bid.

A Japanese official said the cartoon gave the wrong impression about Japan.

The sketch in Le Canard Enchaine showed a commentator in a nuclear protection suit standing in front of two multi-limbed and emaciated sumo wrestlers facing off against the backdrop of the plant The French weekly also published a picture of two people wearing nuclear protection suits holding a Geiger counter in front of a pool of water and saying that water sport facilities had already been built at Fukushima.

The triple meltdown at Fukushima, which lies 141 miles (227km) north of the capital, was classed as a highest-possible level seven incident on an international scale, one of only two nuclear events ever given that rating - along with the 1986 Chernobyl disaster in the former Soviet Union.

'Wrong impression' Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said the government would lodge an official complaint with the magazine. "These kinds of satirical pictures hurt the victims of the disaster," Mr Suga told a news conference. "This kind of journalism gives the wrong impression about the waste water problem," he added.

"Water sport facilities have already been built at Fukushima"

Hey Japanese Government - we're all kind of pissed at the big radiated crap Tepco et al took on the world too. It's way nastier than a silly cartoon.

People are going to talk and people are going to make you the butt of their jokes....because you continue to lie and hide the truth Mr. Government official. Get over it. You expect us to patiently sit by while you "handle" Fukushima. We got your handle. Here...



Hey congrats on that Olympic bid. So sorry it will never happen. You have bigger fish to fry...oh wait....you got that one covered. Wrong impression...wrong impression? LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeez.

Source

Reposted from Japan declares nuclear emergency after quake PART 2 thread

reply to post by supergravity

When the used fuel rod containment fails all plants will die in the united states and many other countries

Please, do some scientific research. Plants can stand much higher doses of Gamma radiation, more even than you get when receiving radiation for cancer treatment.
Low doses (still thousands of times more than anyone at Fukushima ever received) are shown to improve plant health and vigour, and Chernobyl is evidence of that.

The fear-mongering on here is just pathetic, fortunately most of the world does not read this drek, and it will all just be forgotten when years down the road it is realised that the world didn't end (from radiation anyway) and it was all a big lie fed to the world by the oil/coal/gas monopolies.

@Hoosierdaddy71

Well i guess we all might as well just start digging our graves. There is no hope that this
Will not kill us all.

Hahahahahah! It's funny watching everyone here scare the pants off each other, but it's getting tedious.

DancedWithWolves
I found that outrage you were asking about....oh wait....

Now why is the Japanese government all outraged....

"Thanks to Fukushima, sumo is now an Olympic sport"

Japan anger over French Fukushima cartoon

Japan will formally protest about a cartoon in a French satirical weekly of sumo wrestlers with extra limbs at the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant.

The caption says: "Thanks to Fukushima, sumo is now an Olympic sport", a reference to Tokyo's successful bid to host the 2020 Olympic Games.

Japan overcame concerns about the plant, which was crippled by the 2011 earthquake and tsunami, to win the bid.

A Japanese official said the cartoon gave the wrong impression about Japan.

The sketch in Le Canard Enchaine showed a commentator in a nuclear protection suit standing in front of two multi-limbed and emaciated sumo wrestlers facing off against the backdrop of the plant The French weekly also published a picture of two people wearing nuclear protection suits holding a Geiger counter in front of a pool of water and saying that water sport facilities had already been built at Fukushima.

The triple meltdown at Fukushima, which lies 141 miles (227km) north of the capital, was classed as a highest-possible level seven incident on an international scale, one of only two nuclear events ever given that rating - along with the 1986 Chernobyl disaster in the former Soviet Union.

'Wrong impression' Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said the government would lodge an official complaint with the magazine. "These kinds of satirical pictures hurt the victims of the disaster," Mr Suga told a news conference. "This kind of journalism gives the wrong impression about the waste water problem," he added.

"Water sport facilities have already been built at Fukushima"

Hey Japanese Government - we're all kind of pissed at the big radiated crap Tepco et al took on the world too. It's way nastier than a silly cartoon.

People are going to talk and people are going to make you the butt of their jokes....because you continue to lie and hide the truth Mr. Government official. Get over it. You expect us to patiently sit by while you "handle" Fukushima. We got your handle. Here...

Hey congrats on that Olympic bid. So sorry it will never happen. You have bigger fish to fry...oh wait....you got that one covered. Wrong impression...wrong impression? LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeez.

Source

Reposted from Japan declares nuclear emergency after quake PART 2 thread

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Great find ^^^^^^^ Kudos!!
Apparently though, a lot on here seem to think this is nothing to worry about, we are all just stupid and don't know what we are talking about. Everything is under control, no way radioactive debris could reach anyone and just go about your way now.....

On July 22, 2013, more than two years after the incident, it was revealed that the plant is leaking radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean, something long suspected by local fishermen and independent investigators.[27] TEPCO had previously denied that this was happening and the current situation has prompted Japanese Prime Minister Shinzō Abe to order the government to step in.[28] On August 20, in a further incident, it was announced that 300 tonnes (300 long tons; 330 short tons) of heavily contaminated water had leaked from a storage tank. The water was radioactive enough to be hazardous to nearby staff, and the leak was assessed as Level 3 on the International Nuclear Event Scale.[29][30] On August 26, the government took charge of emergency measures to prevent further radioactive water leaks, reflecting their lack of confidence in TEPCO.

SOURCE

ForbiddenDesire
I wanted to share something that was quite scary:

www.chrisjordan.com...

Thank you so much for sharing.....and they say a picture can say a thousand words....for sure!!

From your link, and I think this is important, but according to some, WE are just trying to scare each other...it's all funny and WE just don't know what we are talking about......ALL I can say, is I am in no way trying to scare anyone....I am trying to learn myself and educate myself and others.......

^^^^^Thanks again, right from your link!!

Currently, the waste pool in Reactor Unit 4 at Japan’s Fukushima-Daiichi plant is at risk for collapse. The building is unstable, and the cracked and leaking pool contains 262 tons of ultra-radioactive uranium/plutonium waste. For months, Fukushima has been experiencing numerous earthquakes from magnitude 4.1 to 6.2, sometimes several per day. If a magnitude 7 earthquake were to occur, causing the Unit 4 waste pool to rupture and drain, the resulting meltdown and fires could release ten times more airborne radioactive material than was released by the Chernobyl disaster. At that point humans could no longer enter or operate the facility, potentially leading to a chain reaction of meltdown events at Fukushima’s five other units, releasing 85 times as much radiation as the Chernobyl disaster.

Record Radiation Levels At Fukushima Nuclear Plant


This discussion, debate and concern is documented: comments in video report are by Dr. Arjun Makhijani on the ongoing radioactive water leaks at the Fukushima Daiichi reactors in Japan. [url=http://ieer.org/resource/fukushima/record-radiation-levels-at-fukushima-nuclear-plant/]HERE

All this time I have noticed that RSOE EDIS has listed this in long time rolling events but has not given it the 'bars' it deserves. No wonder nobody thinks about it, nobody is acknowledging the severity of it. If people don't look and search for answers themselves MSM is not going to give it to you. By the way RSOE now has it as an 'Extreme Event' 5 OF 5 BARS, not sure but I think they just updated this very recently.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. has discovered radioactive materials from groundwater at the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant. It is the second such instance, which suggests contaminated water that leaked from a storage tank is spreading underground. The utility said Sept. 9 that 3,200 becquerels of radioactive materials, such as strontium, were detected per liter of water taken from an observation well the previous day. The well is located 20 meters north of the storage tank from which the company said on Aug. 20 that an estimated 300 tons of highly radioactive water leaked. TEPCO will investigate how widely the leaked water has spread and check whether it will affect plans to intercept uncontaminated groundwater and release it into the ocean. The utility is planning to pump water from a well 130 meters on the seaward side of the observation well before it flows into buildings and mixes with radioactive water generated from reactor cooling operations. The company previously detected 650 becquerels of radioactive materials per liter of water taken Sept. 4 from an observation well 20 meters south of the storage tank.

We are only beginning to see the horrors of this catastrophe, I don't think Fukushima can take all the blame for the die offs and I think that BP is responsible for the Gulf and Atlantic at this point but once the radiation and corexit mix the seas will be empty and we are next.

Who knows if the Georgia Guide Stones were prophetic and these incidents were our destiny and just helped the cause.

It amazes me how these die offs are happening and they want to link it to global warming i mean climate change.
The most recent die off from Our Ocean

“The Krill die off is a puzzle,” Tyburczy said. “We can solve it only if we make use of ongoing, long-term monitoring data. It’s the monitoring data that can tell us what the ocean conditions were before, during and after the krill die-off.”

Why is everything such a puzzle?

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Excellent post whatnext21!! *STAR* *STAR*

Key species mysteriously dying off Oregon Coast




Of course SOMETHING is the key word here....but is it illogical to think the Fukushima Disaster has had something to do with this?

Something is killing large numbers of a keystone species off the Oregon Coast. Federal researchers say it could spell danger for the region’s other marine life.

Bill Peterson, an oceanographer with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Hatfield Marine Science Center in Newport, said in the past few weeks millions of dead North Pacific krill have washed up on beaches between Newport and Eureka, Calif.

THE ODD THING:

“The odd thing is that this seems to be happening in both places at the same time,” he said. The North Pacific species lives largely on the eastern side of the ocean, predominantly between southern California and southern Alaska. Peterson said they’re typically found along the continental shelf.

The shrimp-like crustaceans are an important food source for Chinook and coho salmon in the Pacific Ocean, as well as many other species of birds, fish and marine mammals.

“This is the main food for fish offshore,” Peterson said.

Source for ^^^^ Article

reply to post by ItDepends


i had not seen this yet..thank you!
this is a vital link in the food chain, we may see some staggering die offs.
and remember..the foulness being dumped into the ocean is cumulative!

for you non believers..check out www.enenews.com

reply to post by ItDepends


Trust me, they are hiding alot. Eventually we will find out that Japan will become uninhabitable and people will start moving in mass to get out of the country when radiation is detected in the ground water. Also it's a major debate if the ocean can dilute the radiation to the point of it being safe. There supposedly is a report done for the govt. of the US by a scientist that said the ocean can't dilute that much radiation. I think it's because in nature on this planet plutonium is found in only trace amounts, since Plutonium is mostly a byproduction of nuclear reactions. And with so much plutonium that is in one of the reactors nature hasn't had this much radiation slamming into it's environment since the planet was formed.