Fukushima A Disaster Still Growing and Killing Humanity and Sea Life! Where is the Outrage???

Yep they don't want to make a big deal out of it because nuclear power doesn't cause a "carbon footprint" so they can't tax it, so they don't care. This entire global warming bull# is based only for the reason of taxation and control they don't give a # about environment. All nuclear plants should be shut down and converted to clean burning coal, and this done all over the world including China.

Where are all the green nut jobs? why aren't they pissing and moaning about this event? They only care about air pollution not water, not ground? oh wait that's because they don't have a way to tax water and ground pollution yet. That is all it comes down too.

The U.S. need to start turning the screws on Nippon before it's too late.

Nippon needs America as an ally against the vindictive Chinese and if the U.S. even hint at this alliance wavering as a result of this fast-emerging environmental catastrophe, I'm certain their government's focus will shift from nationalistic fervor to slapping these nuke companies upside the head until they fix their shít.

reply to post by ItDepends


Thank you for your kind words and here is a spin off from the krill die off?

ENE News Aboriginal people in British Columbia who rely on Skeena River sockeye are facing some extremely difficult decisions as sockeye salmon returns plunge to historic lows.

Lake Babine Chief Wilf Adam was on his way to Smithers, B.C., on Monday for a discussion about whether to entirely shut down the food fishery on Lake Babine, something he said would be drastic and unprecedented [...]

Last month, the department noted returns for the Skeena River sockeye run were dire. [...]

[Mel Kotyk, North Coast area director for the Department of Fisheries and Oceans] said department scientists don’t know why the return numbers are so low. “[...] we think something happened in the ocean.”

“[...] We’ve never seen anything like this in all these years I’ve done this. I’ve asked the elders and they have never seen anything like this at all.” [said Chief Wilf Adam]

More: “The sockeye runs way up north in the Skeena are low. The [fish] out of Bristol Bay, Alaska is down 30 to 35 per cent over last year. Russia has got a limited number of fish in the market. They are down about 40 per cent over all their salmon fisheries.”

Salmon eat krill
What animals feed off the northern salmon besides humans?
Killer Whales, Salmon Sharks, Bears...

reply to post by GaryN

the writer of that article is free to eat all the fish from Fukushima harbor, eat all the vegetable grown in the area... he can drink the cooling water himself and use it for his morning shower.

Fukushima pollution is harmless ? think again. read again. its not just about what concerns us now- but very much about in what state we leave this world for future generations.

humanity screwed up big time. suggesting that Fukushima leakages are no problem and even laugh at people that are fearful because they dont understand the fine details is just sick in my book.

reply to post by LittleBlackEagle


I think that Yama#a can say what ever he want,
Japan is not like the Soviet Union where the Guys
get shot when they have a different Opinion,
i think also that such Story is punishing many People
from the Hyper Dogmatic Anti-Nuke Fraction,
the People here are not that controlled that they
fear to speak about their own Opinion!

I personally never said that the Situation is like a
Childs Play or a Pony Park

reply to post by glowdog

its not just about what concerns us now- but very much about in what state we leave this world for future generations.

humanity screwed up big time.

Yes, true, but lets look at the mess being created by using fossil fuels. Coal mines leave huge scars on the Earth, mountains of waste, then the ash and mountains of clinker from the power stations will sit for ever, leaching mercury and radioactive material into the rivers and oceans. Oil wells that will nearly all leak to some degree, and there are 17,000 capped oil wells just in the Gulf of Mexico alone, and don't tell me they dont leak. The horrible oil sands (yes, Canada is guilty, and I'm not happy about that) that are poisoning the rivers that many Native villages use to drink from. The health issues are awful but are being covered up by the Government, as they get so much tax revenue from the oil sands. And now they are fracking up much of the world to get more gas and oil out, while polluting water tables and wells. Millions die every year from the breathing of particles that wreck the lungs, even diesel fumes (recognised as a carcinogen by California in the 70's, but now more popular than ever) sicken children who have to live in the cities.
Now I see that even wind turbines, supposedly green energy, is having terrible effects on people who live up to a few kilometers away, from the low frequency pressure waves the blades create, driving people crazy and making their homes unsellable, plus they lead to the deaths of thousands of birds, some of them protected species.
Nuclear power, done properly, offers numerous advantages, and the fossil fuel corporations know that, and have been trying since Three Mile Island, and the China Syndrome, to turn people against it. If railway locomotive shops could build small nuclear reactors many years ago, then by now we should be able to produce even smaller and more efficient units, and it really is not that difficult, in fact school kids could do it. The ones that haven't been reduced to Idiocracy mentalities yet anyway, like Taylor Wilson.

Taylor Wilson: My radical plan for small nuclear fission reactors
www.youtube.com...

Power to the people? Clean, cheap, simple, safe nuclear power. I hope the PTB don't off him.

suggesting that Fukushima leakages are no problem and even laugh at people that are fearful because they dont understand the fine details is just sick in my book.

I think it is you who doesn't understand the fine details. Fear of radiation has been programmed into us, we are not taught the scientific truth, leaving us only with irrational, emotional fear and loathing. The human body, and other living organisms, can tolerate a lot more radiation than believed. How much?

Albert Stevens

Text..was the subject of a human radiation experiment, and survived the highest known accumulated radiation dose in any human.[1] On May 14, 1945, he was injected with 131 kBq (3.55 µCi) of plutonium without his knowledge or informed consent

en.wikipedia.org...

Most of the global media is now controlled by the same bankers and carbon barrons who profit most from destroying the environment and peoples health through toxic pollution, so you really have to look hard to find the alternative, scientific information. Nuclear power definitely demands respect, but not fear, and does have the potential to free us all from energy poverty, and the slavery to the banks and oil barrons, but they won't take it lying down.

Cleaning up Fukushima is a ‘big challenge’: Former US nuclear regulatorText

Tokyo: Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant, said on Monday that a patrol of workers had found a new area of high radiation near tanks used to store contaminated water.

^^^Source


[TOKYO : Vapour has begun rising again from a reactor at the Fukushima nuclear power plant, more than two-and-a-half years after its core melted down, the site’s Japanese operator said today.

The steam appeared as TEPCO found more evidence that radioactive waste water at the plant was contaminating groundwater that is on its way to the sea. Thousands of tonnes of water were poured on the reactors to tame the meltdowns sparked by the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami. TEPCO says their temperature is now stable but they need to be kept cool to prevent them running out of control again.

Source^^

ex]Over two years after the initial disaster at Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power facility, the problematic plant is back in the news - the plant is leaking 300 tons of radioactive water into the surrounding ocean. The announcement has elicited a firm response from the Japanese government and international criticism.

Source^^^^

Some Fukushima residents may never return to their homes.

I very much appreciate everyone responding!

Let's Keep on Topic Please

Fukushima residents may never go home

whatnext21

Thank you for your kind words and here is a spin off from the krill die off?

ENE News Aboriginal people in British Columbia who rely on Skeena River sockeye are facing some extremely difficult decisions as sockeye salmon returns plunge to historic lows.

Thanks again for your contributions and participation...also from your ENE News Link

Unprecedented: Sockeye salmon at dire historic low on Canada’s Pacific coast — “We think something happened in the ocean” — “The elders have never seen anything like this at all” — Alaska and Russia also affected

UPDATE: Canadian official publicly claims 'no concern' over new Fukushima leak info... Yet privately requested tests on salmon, due to "great public concern about potential radiation contamination in these fish"

Biologist: Pacific herring in Canada bleeding from eyeballs, faces, fins, tails — I’ve never seen fish looking this bad — All 100 examined were bloody — Officials informed of hemorrhaging soon after 3/11 — Gov’t ignoring problem

^^^From ARTICLE LINK

Human0815
reply to post by ItDepends

 

You wrote "Tepco is incompetent' but is it really so?
Do you ever read Nuclear Friendly Sites and Blogs about the situation
in Japan and what they think about it?

Another question is why you do not make a difference between the Headmen
of Tepco and their Workers & Contractors?

Do you have even the slightest idea about the working Condition in Daiichi?
Why do they should risk their Life for no benefit at all?

LIE?? Maybe harsh, but >>

Indeed, it was only recently that Tepco had admitted that it was having leakage problems with its underground water barriers at all. The buildup of water, according to various media reports and interviews to Bellona seem to be leading in the direction of further dumps by Tepco of irradiated water into the ocean, some two years after Japan and the world though that would no longer be necessary.

Prime Minister puts government’s neck on the chopping block

^^^^ SOURCE

reply to post by ItDepends


but as some one stated..radiation is highly overrated..
we can handle it...(shakes head) ya..right

Radioactive Waste and the Potential Problems of Maintaining Effective Storage

Wherever a nuclear installation operates, be it a nuclear power plant or a reactor aboard a submarine, there will always be radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel (SNF) to safely contain―for generations. At present, no country has come up with a way of safely storing its radioactive waste for longer than 50 years, meaning all current measures are temporary. SNF contains long-live isotopes such as plutonium, caesium, californium and other “hot” products from burning uranium fuel which are nearly impossible to dispose of long term safely without harm to humans and the environment. Other forms of radwaste, like liquid radioactive waste from submarines, parts of decommissioned reactors and Radioistotope Thermoelectric Generators are equally had to dispose of. Russia takes radwaste from other countries for a cost, but it can do little more than store it. The safest method for radwaste and SNF disposal is in underground geologic repositories, but even countries that are pursing such projects have overrun costs and discovered hazards along the way.

Radioactive Waste ^^^Article

The Japanese government and Tepco, are now caught in their own lies

IAEA Confirms Very High Levels of Contamination Far From Reactors

Today the IAEA has finally confirmed what some analysts have suspected for days: that the concentration per area of long-lived cesium-137 (Cs-137) is extremely high as far as tens of kilometers from the release site at Fukushima Dai-Ichi, and in fact would trigger compulsory evacuation under IAEA guidelines.

^^^Source

Radioactive Bluefin Tuna: Japan Nuclear Plant Contaminated Fish Found Off California Coast

^^^^Link - Contaminated Tuna

autopat51
reply to post by ItDepends

 

but as some one stated..radiation is highly overrated..
we can handle it...(shakes head) ya..right

Two 'Face Palms' to whomever made that statement. *shaking head* with you 'autopat51'

Thanks for your continued support and contributions!!

reply to post by ItDepends


That image with NOAA on it has nothing to do with radiation. It's for predicting tsunami wave height.
So using the image in context of radiation leaks is very misleading.

I was listening to a show the other day and it seems it is hard to measure the radiation off the coast of Japan. The ocean is big. I sure as hell wouldn't eat any flounder off the northern coast of Japan for a long time.

On the bright side, this is how we get Godzilla right?


V

Variable
reply to post by ItDepends

 

That image with NOAA on it has nothing to do with radiation. It's for predicting tsunami wave height.
So using the image in context of radiation leaks is very misleading.

I was listening to a show the other day and it seems it is hard to measure the radiation off the coast of Japan. The ocean is big. I sure as hell wouldn't eat any flounder off the northern coast of Japan for a long time.

On the bright side, this is how we get Godzilla right?

V

Thanks V !! Yes, I have addressed that photo several times in the thread.....YOU are absolutely correct, it was a depiction of the tsumami and its projected spread. However, as I also said, it does give a pretty good representation of the the Pacific Ocean and its' wave currents. As 100's of tons of radioactive water is dumped into the ocean EVERY DAY, NOW more than 2+ years......there would seem that its seepage along the same wave currents will bring its' way to the Western Coastline of North America and all of the Islands along the way!

I'm with you....NO Flounder......as far as Godzilla, ya know, i have no idea, could the radiation create some weird mutated aquatic life??? All I can say its probably possible, but Godzilla, ahh, probably not! Peace!!

Thanks for participating!!

GaryN
reply to post by glowdog

 

its not just about what concerns us now- but very much about in what state we leave this world for future generations.

humanity screwed up big time.

Yes, true, but lets look at the mess being created by using fossil fuels. Coal mines leave huge scars on the Earth, mountains of waste, then the ash and mountains of clinker from the power stations will sit for ever, leaching mercury and radioactive material into the rivers and oceans. Oil wells that will nearly all leak to some degree, and there are 17,000 capped oil wells just in the Gulf of Mexico alone, and don't tell me they dont leak. The horrible oil sands (yes, Canada is guilty, and I'm not happy about that) that are poisoning the rivers that many Native villages use to drink from. The health issues are awful but are being covered up by the Government, as they get so much tax revenue from the oil sands. And now they are fracking up much of the world to get more gas and oil out, while polluting water tables and wells. Millions die every year from the breathing of particles that wreck the lungs, even diesel fumes (recognised as a carcinogen by California in the 70's, but now more popular than ever) sicken children who have to live in the cities.
Now I see that even wind turbines, supposedly green energy, is having terrible effects on people who live up to a few kilometers away, from the low frequency pressure waves the blades create, driving people crazy and making their homes unsellable, plus they lead to the deaths of thousands of birds, some of them protected species.
Nuclear power, done properly, offers numerous advantages, and the fossil fuel corporations know that, and have been trying since Three Mile Island, and the China Syndrome, to turn people against it. If railway locomotive shops could build small nuclear reactors many years ago, then by now we should be able to produce even smaller and more efficient units, and it really is not that difficult, in fact school kids could do it. The ones that haven't been reduced to Idiocracy mentalities yet anyway, like Taylor Wilson.

Taylor Wilson: My radical plan for small nuclear fission reactors
www.youtube.com...

Power to the people? Clean, cheap, simple, safe nuclear power. I hope the PTB don't off him.

suggesting that Fukushima leakages are no problem and even laugh at people that are fearful because they dont understand the fine details is just sick in my book.

I think it is you who doesn't understand the fine details. Fear of radiation has been programmed into us, we are not taught the scientific truth, leaving us only with irrational, emotional fear and loathing. The human body, and other living organisms, can tolerate a lot more radiation than believed. How much?

Albert Stevens

Text..was the subject of a human radiation experiment, and survived the highest known accumulated radiation dose in any human.[1] On May 14, 1945, he was injected with 131 kBq (3.55 µCi) of plutonium without his knowledge or informed consent

en.wikipedia.org...

Most of the global media is now controlled by the same bankers and carbon barrons who profit most from destroying the environment and peoples health through toxic pollution, so you really have to look hard to find the alternative, scientific information. Nuclear power definitely demands respect, but not fear, and does have the potential to free us all from energy poverty, and the slavery to the banks and oil barrons, but they won't take it lying down.

edit on 13-9-2013 by GaryN because: sp.

the train for " nuclear energy done properly" passed long time ago.there might be ways to do it better but for some reason it was done pretty wrong so far. what about the nuclear waste that we already amassed worldwide ? looks like nobody has a clue what to do with it other than pass it on to our kids.how are future generation going to deal with that ?

the human body can withstand a lot of radiation.you wont drop dead on the spot from a lilttle radiation.tell that to the children. tell it to the children from Chernobyl for example.would you like your own kids to test if this scientists are right and move to Ukraine or Japan ?

wind energy is by far not the only way to go "green" btw.

glowdog
the train for " nuclear energy done properly" passed long time ago.there might be ways to do it better but for some reason it was done pretty wrong so far. what about the nuclear waste that we already amassed worldwide ? looks like nobody has a clue what to do with it other than pass it on to our kids.how are future generation going to deal with that ?

the human body can withstand a lot of radiation.you wont drop dead on the spot from a lilttle radiation.tell that to the children. tell it to the children from Chernobyl for example.would you like your own kids to test if this scientists are right and move to Ukraine or Japan ?

wind energy is by far not the only way to go "green" btw.

Hey glowdog....yes, I think you raise the 'real' question when it comes to disposing of nuclear waste....it is building up around the world.....and most of the current containers only have a 50 year life. I posted this above, but thought you may find it a good read.

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Wherever a nuclear installation operates, be it a nuclear power plant or a reactor aboard a submarine, there will always be radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel (SNF) to safely contain―for generations. At present, no country has come up with a way of safely storing its radioactive waste for longer than 50 years, meaning all current measures are temporary. SNF contains long-live isotopes such as plutonium, caesium, californium and other “hot” products from burning uranium fuel which are nearly impossible to dispose of long term safely without harm to humans and the environment. Other forms of radwaste, like liquid radioactive waste from submarines, parts of decommissioned reactors and Radioistotope Thermoelectric Generators are equally had to dispose of. Russia takes radwaste from other countries for a cost, but it can do little more than store it. The safest method for radwaste and SNF disposal is in underground geologic repositories, but even countries that are pursing such projects have overrun costs and discovered hazards along the way.

Radioactive Waste ^^^Article

Human0815

US Advise:

Irradiated water at Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501)’s Fukushima plant will probably have to be dumped into the ocean after contamination is brought to safe levels, an adviser to the company’s water management task force said.

The adviser should be fired from his position for throwing out a misinformed idea of leaching radiation into the oceans that need not be there.

“Spending billions and billions of yen on building tanks to try to capture almost every drop of water on the site is unsustainable, wasteful, and counterproductive,” Barrett wrote.

This is the penalty that Japan needs to pay because they did not do safety inspections and repair to the plant. Why should they get away with this? This is called punitive damage to Japan. It is the cost of THEIR cleanup, not ours.

“I see no realistic alternative to a program that cleans up water with improved processing systems so it meets very protective Japanese release standards and then, after public discussion, conducts an independently confirmed, controlled release to the sea.”

Controlled release into the sea? Just another trash can the sea is for the Japanese? There should be a universal law of no dumping into the sea. This is absolutely disgusting.

reply to post by ItDepends


Talk about putting the fox in charge of the hen house. The man who was a big part of the sabotage of 3 mile island is now heading Fukushima cleanup, so expect it to take ten years while they milk it for all they can. I won't be satisfied till we get an internation team of the top nuclear scientists and engineers in there, with video cameras, so we can all see what is going on. But, if they tried to send in an independant team, I bet you all of a sudden there would be another meltdown or explosion, or they'd use micr-nukes to really wreck the place.

Lake Barrett was appointed this month by plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. as an outside adviser for the decades-long decommissioning process. He led the Three Mile Island accident cleanup for nearly a decade as part of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

@glowdog

what about the nuclear waste that we already amassed worldwide ? looks like nobody has a clue what to do with it other than pass it on to our kids.

Your really have no idea what a big lie this whole situation is. Did you even look at the TED talk by that young guy? His reactors would eat all the 'waste', which isn't waste at all.

How to re-use nuclear waste

Peter Ottensmeyer, professor emeritus at University of Toronto, says waste fuel from Canada’s nuclear reactors can be re-used.
Not only will it provide vastly more energy than it does now, says Ottensmeyer. The re-used fuel will also lose its radioactivity much more quickly.

www.thestar.com...

Just the Candu reactor 'waste' is estimated to have a value of 43 TRILLION dollars. That's 43 trillion out of the carbon kings pockets, and what they won't do to prevent that, I don't even want to imagine.

reply to post by ItDepends


Seeing that map makes me glad to be near a gulf of Mexico beach for the first time in my life. Nasty gulf water never looked so beautiful.